I stand firmly opposed to children taking cross sex hormones.
>>41682827i think all children should take cross sex hormones
>>41682831that would destroy the universe
>>41682827I don't know if picrel is supposed to represent this take being dumb, but imo as long as they're really sure of their gender it's always best to start earlier to improve mental health and appearance earlier. This also reduces the need to pay for ffs and such
>>41682827>i like it when kids kill themselveswe know, that's why your kind rapes them too, for good measure
>>41682827I stand firmly, opposed to children, taking cross sex hormones.Punctuation is important!
>>41682847yeah, i think if a professional can diagnose them without a doubt that they have dysphoria then why not. or atleast let them take blockers
>>41682860Why do the studies on tranny suicides not focus on completion rate?
i think it should be mandatory and forced on all kids. start with OP
>>41682874no, I wouldn't enjoy that
>>41682874thats mean, op said they wouldnt like that. u should respect her wishes anon. forcing hrt on people is very bad.
Trutrans don't need to block puberty to pass, because their puberties will be naturally partially blocked.
>>41682841good
>>41682952TRVTHNUKE
>>41682827Me too unless they are under the care of a qualified licensed physician
>>41683064doctors who chemically or surgically castrate children should be beheaded in public like they used to do in Saudi Arabia
>>41682971It's the only real way to determine trutrans. If you developed normally for your birth sex (or would have, for those who blocked puberty) then you're faketrans. No exceptions.
>>41683070I agree-- patients should definitely get a say in whether they take medication that could impact fertility and consent is extremely important.I wasn't aware that there had been any doctors in Saudi Arabia who treated trans youth thought. When did those executions happen?
>>41683214hrt does far more than just negatively impact fertility
>>41683252you’re right; it helps align trans individuals’ brains to the gender they identify with, alongside assisting the body in transitioning to said desired gender. Overall improving the patient’s life
>>41683285>alignwhatwhy would genes create a male body and JUST make the brain female?
>>41683285There's no such thing as a "gender identity." Only autogynephilic and autoandrophilic fantasies which take over a person's life.
>>41683318They wouldn't. There's no such thing as having cross-sex development, but only in a tiny part of the brain.We know it's all bullshit because most intersex people accept their sex of rearing and don't have a voice in their head telling them they're supposed to be the opposite sex.
>>41682827I oppose people from India existing, just let’s sink it
>>41683322>blanchardism postingopinion appropriately discarded>>41683318What are intersexed people?>align?Giving your brain one hormones over the other has noticeable (and often improved) effects on the given patient. For trans people it helps their brain feel, and experience subtle physical changes that are typically induced by hormone profile.
>>41683332>know it’s all bullshit and just a voice in their headCis men feel dysphoria when they have gynecomastia, or lose their dick in horrific accidents, and then experience gender “euphoria” when they get surgeries that help affirm their gender.Cis women with flat breasts who get BAs to appear more “womanly” or get face surgeries to make themselves look not only feminine but more attractive, is gender affirming care. Not voices in your head.
>>41683353intersex people are often castrated to "align" them and I think that's wrong
>>41682861you go girl, you show those kids
>>41683381non-consensually being forced to adhere to a gender you don’t identify (let alone an infant that hasn’t conceptualize gender yet) is as fucked up as infant circumcision, like the John Money scandal. This also extends to forcing trans people to placate the plight of heterosexual cis people because cis people might feel “icky” at gender non-conformity.
>>41683285>If I do the Dreamworks smirk I will appear more feminine
>>41683401gender is caused by chromsomes, identity is irrelevantboth circumcision and srs should be completely banned - even where "voluntary"
>>41683408>i’ll hold trans women to a higher standard than cis womendouble standards
>>41683421Your limitations to a 6th grade level of biology or lack of understanding the scientific census on best practices for treating gender dysphoria, does not get to dictate how trans people should live their lives or treat their dysphoria.
>>41683332>most intersex people accept their sex of rearingEmpty statement. If gender identity is strong and intrinsic and you assign intersex people by coin flip and everyone who wants to transition does you'd expect 50% at most to transition.If you're slightly more accurate than a coin flip, then "most" don't transition.If some would want to but find the idea too daunting, then "most" don't transition.If some are dissuaded by lack of access to appropriate care, say by doctors that are afraid to manage an intersex person's transition, then "most" are dissuaded.
>>41683095This is insane but this isn't the first time I've heard some version of that.t. luckshit
>>41683498is the intersex meme people used in the 50s to justify transition
>>41683527Is that where my Evangelical friend gets it? He basically accepted my transition on the DSD he diagnosed me with with his eyeballs.Kinda frustrating because it's insane, but also because the anti-trans laws inevitably fuck with intersex people too. Absolutely the thinnest possible veneer of acceptance when if I got in trouble with the law he'd toss me into a men's prison all the same.
>>41683434>advanced biology means woman is a feeling
>>41683498>>41683740People are generally a lot more sympathetic to "I let my body develop naturally and I ended up looking and behaving like a flat-chested woman with a dick, which was a social and romantic death sentence, so I transitioned" than "I tore up being a physically normal healthy male because I had an inexplicable urge to be a woman."
>>41683888>deflects and continues to silently hold an authority on best treatment for trans people, over qualified medical practitioners and psychologistsAs expected
>>41683942"gender dysphoria" means you think men can feel like women
>>41683950Isn't it that people born male have the gender identity of a woman? I believe that's how it works
>>41683950"Gender dysphoria" is distress over being one's natal sex because one is autoheterosexual and needs one's body to be the opposite sex for one's sexuality to be satisfied.
>>41683990gender identity presupposes that men can feel like women
>>41683950>maliciously misunderstands the definitionYou don’t sound like you’re here with an honest quest. It means you feel the physical representation of you does not align to your gender identity. Much like how cis men feel like less of a man if they suffer gynecomastia. Or cis women grow beards from PCOS. That’s gender gender dysphoria too.
>>41683998It's an absurd notion. Nobody knows how anybody else feels inside, so how could a natal male possibly know what natal females feel like?
>>41684004Because people know what feels “wrong” when their body develops characteristics that don’t align with their gender identity. And when you cross eliminate (i.e. try adopting characteristics of the opposite gender and feel gender euphoria) you realize what works best in your scenario
>>41684000>>41684023Cis men feel like less of a man if they develop gynecomastia because other cis men generally don't have breast tissue, and cis women generally do.Cis women feel like less of a woman if they develop terminal facial hair as a result of PCOS because other cis women generally don't have terminal facial hair, and cis men generally do.In both case the distress is from no longer fitting in with other members of their natal sex, not because of some "gender identity."
>>41683994reminder that blanchard talking points is ridiculed and regarded as faulty approach towards transgender care in the scientific community
>>41684028THAT IS GENDER IDENTITY.>not fitting in with their gender groupis literally the definition of gender dysphoria!
>>41683998don't try and tell me what i saw happen doesn't happen, dumbass
>>41684044gender roles are too strict
>>41684055even when we abolish gender roles/gender conformity, the dysphoria is rooted in the physical sex characteristics (breast tissue, genitals, bone masculinization, height, etc.) Abolishing gender roles would help, but it doesn’t eliminate gender dysphoria.
>>41684062physical sex characteristics are what determine social gender role, can we agree on that?
>>41684044It's not fitting in with their NATAL SEX, not with their "gender group," which is trans gobbledygook attempting to make concepts that are clear, unclear.
>>41683940Story of my life but with some gyno on top of it just for fun.So basically people are pro-transmaxxing but not really sympathetic to dysphoria. Yeah that completely aligns with the impression I get from some people.
>>41684078In so far that they can be adapted, case in point trans people that transition and live the lives of their identified gender.>>41684086Just because it upsets you doesn’t make the definition change: a clear distress over physical characteristics that make you appear less as your identified gender group. Both cis and trans people experience it. Both cis and trans people remedy it by utilizing gender affirming care. You wanting to hand wave it away because you can’t conceive of something outside the current dichotomy, is a you problem.
>>41684078no shit sherlock, the entire gender debate is dumbasses arguing that sex doesn't exist, and then rubes blaming trannies for the idiots spamming obvious bullshit and taking our shit away to "own" the original dumbasses
>>41684119>that transitiontranslation: castrate themselves>and live the lives of their identified gendertranslation: are full time crossdressers
>>41684086If you were right wouldn't trans people suffer immensely from developing opposite-sex characteristics on hormones? Trans women don't usually seem very distressed about developing breast tissue.
>>41684078Nuke
>>41684107Dysphoria can't be directly observed. Physical sex nonconformity can. For many, seeing is believing.
>>41684131I don't think they're generally crossdressers, there's a difference between a femboy and a tgirl
>>41684145yeah, the word games
>>41684154? This is true though
>>41684131>I must reinforce my transphobia and never recognize trans people as their genderNo respected scientific body sides with your obsessed delusions in objectifying and dehumanizing trans people.
>>41684167men can't become women, ever
>>41682831>>41682841>>41682860What if we just killed all the children instead and saved some steps?
>>41684195>screen children for "gender dysphoria">those who say they have a "gender identity" get a lethal dose of morphinebased
>>41684194I actually agree with this statement but certainly not in the sense you mean it.
>>41684194Trans women??? Women that formerly socially lived as men before realising that their identity was female?? How tf do you not know this
>>41684211men cannot socially live as women
>>41684211You're arguing with an idiot.
>>41684218chuds aren’t human
>>41684236>noooo u have to accept that a man in a dress is a woman or i will KILL MYSELF
>>41684236Ok mb for not recognising ragebait>>41684251Trans women aren't cis women but they're still somewhat like women manAnd I'm not a woman eitherWell anyway I got better stuff to do rn
>>41684273trans women are closer to cis men than cis women
>>41684251it’s more like stop harassing trans people just because you fell for the billionaires divide & conquer tactic.>>41684280lol pic related
>>41683425who is this semen demon?
>>41684286angle deception
>>41684336>cis woman don’t angle frauddouble standards
>>41684342cis women don't look like men without the fraud
>>41684356>toupee fallacycontinue rekting yourself chud. Here’s your list of cis women
>>41684280>nobody ever passesTherefore I am a cis woman. Checkmate cons!
>>41682827why do low effort bait threads like this always get so much engagement
>>41682871Because practically no studies on things like that focus on "sucide completion rate"Why shouldn't we kill all jeets like you?
>>41683940>YOU HAVE TO BE MY GOY WORKSLAVE AND MAKE BABIES WAAAA
