>>41690643
yeah prob but i cant ever imagine cis ppl being okay w that. people will always have a preference for certain gentiles

>>41690643
this is pretty dumb desu
i'm a troon and i like my men with dicks, i'd be pretty disappointed if a guy took me home and didn't have one

>>41690643
No, if I get a surprise dick I’m killing whatever it’s attached to and I’m getting acquitted.

I'm ok with this, not only am I ok with it but I like the idea, mystery is good, but you call me a "chaser" and all sorts of slurs as well. maybe trans women should make up their minds about what they want, but they are women, so of course they don't know what they want

How many times then do you want to put up with "oh uhm..srry im not into that please leave.." id rather be told no long before im literally in bed

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>>41690643
I'm a filthy laptop job urbanite who doesn't want kids just like the rest of you, but it's bizarre to me that internet faggots just ignore that the point of dating and sex is to have kids. Maybe not to you, maybe not to me, but that's the point for most people most of the time. That's what you're fighting against. It's actually biology, not just norms or whatever.

>>41690643
Well maybe If they have the penis down there. but if they are post op I guess i wouldn't know the difference. besides being unable to bear children which can be good or bad.
If you do have a gock you probably should bring that up, a lot of people arent too fond of surprises.

>>41690643
sure I think it's wrong to straight lie about it if asked directly though. People that are really truly concerned can just ask.

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>>41690747
not if i get to you first

>>41690643

This is one of the most retarded takes I've ever read in my life and I genuinely find it unfathomable how anyone could be delusional enough to have these ideals.

Claiming your genitalia is not a factor in determining partner selection is literal straight and gay erasure. Most people exclusively want a dick or a pussy, stop playing retarded in matters like these and maybe the troon movement will stop getting shit on by the mainstream for a second.

>>41690701
>people will always have a preference for certain gentiles
okay but isn't this also true of subtypes of genitals? should phimosis guys be expected to disclose?

>>41690790
i mean yeah probably

>>41690766
the massive condom, plan b, etc markets are because people want to have kids?

>>41690643
>all of her wacky preferences are ok
>but GENITALS? NO! THE SEX ORGAN YOU MUST BE WILLING TO ACCEPT BOTH OR YOU ARE A BIGOT IF YOU DONT EAT PUSSY AND DICK AT THE SAME TIME

>>41690810
This is where you imagined you'd drag me along for several posts like you're some hack sophist at the Forum, right?

>>41690643
if you were a cis dude with some genital deformity you’d probably tell anyone you’re dating so they don’t freak out, this is a stupid take

>>41690790

Honestly, as a gay guy, whether someone is circumcised or not actually matters quite a bit to me, and I'm not happy at all when I lose the 50/50 lottery.

So actually, contrary to OP's idea, I think we should actually normalize disclosing exactly how we fucking look naked so we don't have to force ourselves to have sex with people we are fundamentally incompatible.

>>41690747
But if I get a surprise pussy Im meant to just accept it?

>>41690826
no, i thought we could have a civil discussion about why you think like that. obviously, you're just here to le epic reddit debate people so i'm good.

>>41690747
you're not going to get a surprise dick, that's not what happens in those cases
you're going to suck off a tranny that you know going in is a tranny, and then when your friends find out and make fun of you you're going to go back and beat her up and pretend you didn't know
that's what most of these cases actually are

>>41690928
~~most~~
all

>>41690790
never said u had to disclose just saying that a world where people dont care what u have isnt something that will ever happen

>>41690643
I dont have to tell you a single shit faggot, especially not personal stuff like this. Don't like it? Stop talking with people

>>41690643
RAPEHONS RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE!!!

>>41690643
I’m stealth and I disagree with you and the pic in OP. >>41690839 has the right idea: trans is still a minority that most people are not anticipating (unless it’s announced first contact) when it comes to genital to body configuration. If meeting with a person is giving clear signals that sex is very possible, then it would behoove the trans person to disclose.

That said, I also believe post-op trans people never have to disclose that they’re trans and are at liberty to default with “I’m an infertile woman”. It’s only if there’s a likely expectation of a genital makeup to a given body, AND if sex is suspected to occur. Otherwise, trans people are not expected to disclose outside of this.

>>41690643

Lol people know exactly what's in your pants if they have interacted with you for more than 5 minutes unless you specifically had SRS.

Is this some kind of weird fetish disguised as social concern that trannies have about 'surprising' people with their genitalia because the fantasy that they could actually fool anyone about it is gender affirming?

>>41691042
the very fact that cases of trans people that are murdered when a potential date discovers a penis is true, debunks your idiotic delusion.

>>41691070

I refuse to believe this actually happens lmao.

I can't believe anyone is truly retarded enough to not clock a tranny after a certain amount of close interaction.

>>41690643
People need to have that conversation about preferences vs deal breakers again

I think the onus is on the one with "icks", YOU don't want something YOU have to talk about it
P damn simple
>inb4 "noo you can't tell a cis woman that you don't want a dick"
Grow a pair, stop having L rizz.

>>41690643
you never have to tell, even when having sex
>THAT'S RAPE!
don't care

>>41691115
there are stealth trannies but the overlap of trannies who
1. are stealth
2. haven't had srs
3. are regularly having sex with strangers
is the empty set
what is actually happening in cases of "trans panic" is >>41690928, DL chasers hiring trans sex workers and chimping after they get outed to their friends

>>41691131
I'm glad someone came and said this, but why did it have to be Ayden?
But yeah, >>41690643 has it backwards. Normalize asking what genitals your partner has, if that's something you consider important. It's okay if you do consider it important, and it's fine to break it off if you feel that way, but it's on you to ask. You don't get to act surprised if you never asked.

>>41691181
>I'm glad someone came and said this, but why did it have to be Ayden?
Because I'm hella based but your preconceived notions about me prevent us from linking up

>>41690643
yeah so normies are never going to get there. and we if keep talking like we are going to try to drag them into it like we just dragged them through everything else, they will kill us

>>41690643
Unironically yes. Cisoids are too hung up about genitals The average man still believes 'a penis will turn me gay, and that makes me a sissy' even if they pretend not to.

>>41691807
This. These mother fuckers need to learn to shut up and get down on their knees and suck my clitty

>>41690810
You know can want kids at some point and still use protection in the meantime, or use protection after having kids to prevent more, or in-between children?

>>41690643
Yes
>but-
Still yes.

>>41690766
>that's the point for most people most of the time.
lol. lmao

>>41690747
blah blah big words .. TINY DICK

>>41690643
im trans and not okay with this idea myself THO

>>41690857
A dick is an unwelcome surprise
A pussy is a prize

>>41690643
Imagine an MTF getting a surprise pooner...
And they were both bottoms.

>>41691807
>The average man still believes having sex with another man will turn him gay

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>>41690643
That shit ain't happening…

Like, ever.

>>41693534
not for men who are Really gay T h o u g h

>>41690643
>Do you agree with this statement?
No.
All is does is objectify people

>>41690643
That faggot doesn't get to decide what is and is not a big deal. He probably gets assblasted about being misgendered, and that's "literally so very not a big deal."

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>>41690643
Trans acceptance will not stop regressing until trannies actively silence retarded fucking morons like this.

>>41690643
trannies are so fucking delusional kek

>>41690643
you only need to say youre trans before sex (non op), or if your partner wants kids (post op)
shrimple

>>41691029
>That said, I also believe post-op trans people never have to disclose that they’re trans and are at liberty to default with “I’m an infertile woman”.
But that's one like of omission and another blatant falsehood
A castrated man is not an infertile woman

>>41690747
No youre not anon

>>41693958
*lie of omission

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>>41690643
The logical conclusion of dating (if it goes well) is that you'll have intercourse. Even if you have a neovagina, you should still be upfront with your partner. I doubt most troons have this problem, seeing as the majority don't pass anyway, but even hypothetically, if you can't see a problem with that, you broadly aren't mature enough to be dating anyway

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>>41694251
The thing with trannies, and this really is a microcosm for why things are getting worse for them, is that they will fight losing battles they don't even necessarily agree with that have no affect on their lives and little impact at large just because they've been tricked into thinking they have to do so.
It's the same as with sports. How many people does this affect really? Like how many trannies out there actually stealth at such a level?
All it takes to make trannies lose is to feed them them some slippery slope and no true Scotsman fallacy. Tell them that any level of nuance or apprehension over bathrooms is transphobic. That concerns about predators is actually bad faith. That if they don't argue acceptance for the most freakish of predatorhons then they'll be next. Feed them that and you don't even need to rally against them, they'll go out and shoot themselves in the foot over and over again.

>>41690643
>DeLeon in display name
Amusing how anarchists are 100% for all personal freedom, free association and autonomy unless someone else's personal preference could possibly offend a protected group.

>>41694448
You're absolutely right, and I completely agree. The irony is that these exact arguments are used by trannies against any form of criticism. And that's the thing, because trannies argue from a gutterally personally perspective, they can't detach themselves from any kind of discussion, it's about them, not the broader conception. This feeds into the narcissism of normie troons who centre themselves around being a tranny, something I will never comprehend.

>>41694610
Trannies are bedwenches. They want cissy approval. Literally all of their "rights" are just "validate me validate me validate me!".
That's why it's hilarious that they always cast themselves as these subversive political revolutionaries.

>>41690643
i think trans acceptance is a push too far. tolerance. phobes will never understand. they'll never get it. they'll also be hateful because the whole point of a phobia is that it's irrational and the reality is that transphobia is predicated on homophobia. we're still not past homophobia and we never will be as a society. pushing for acceptance is equally as authoritarian as the fascist they cry about ruining the united states.

>>41690736
HAHAHAHHAHAHA

understandable though. in any case stuff like op pic should only ever apply to girls but men should always be questioned for their genitals (which is what already sorta happens if you count dick size preference). but womens genitals should never ever ever ever be questioned, because regardless of which they have they are still girls, and if someone doesnt like one of them then they dont really like girls! Much to think about.

>>41690643
getting rejected isn't a big deal either, just tell them

>>41693787
So youre saying that men who have sex with Trans women are gay?

>>41695607
not necessarily. the genital preference thing should only apply to men, not women. so trans women having sex with men is not gay by any means, as well as them having sex with women doesnt make it any less lesbian. the same cant be true for trans men though because demanding sex from men while claiming to be a "gay dickless man" is something that should be thoroughly shamed and punished at all costs.

>>41690643
i kinda disagree. i dont think we can have trans acceptance while cishets live.

>>41690766
this is pedophilia btw

>>41693958
>>41693992
trans people don’t owe cis people anything. If a post op trans woman is functionally no different than an infertile cis woman, there’s no obligation to disclose being trans
>but they might feel icky
that’s their prerogative to disclose upfront before they date any woman then. Be up front and state “I don’t feel comfortable dating trans women, even if functionally they’re identical to infertile cis women when post-op”. Otherwise they can pound sand.

>>41697537
your post feels like it was generated from talking points from 5 years ago

>>41697544
this literal thread would fit that then

>>41690643
Having a genital pregerence isn't something unusual or bad.
Sure, some people don't mind and a significant amount of people can ignore that as long as they don't have to interact with it.
But that's not everyone and it's never going to be everyone.
And most trans people kinda want SRS anyway and the main reasons they don't get it are related to fear of complications and lack of access.
Be open about what gemitals you have with a partner before having sex if it is going to involve genitals (giving a BJ or eating someone out without disclosing is fine IMHO)

>>41691807
But I saw you calling chasers gay a few days ago.

>>41690643
That’s fucking stupid and way more trouble than it’s worth

>>41690643
Retarded.
>It won't be complete until thing that will never happen and isn't even desirable for 99.9% of the population!!
then "trans acceptance" will never happen and this is a good thing since the alternative is the bulk of the human population suffering for the sake of 0.5% of mentally ill schizos.
I will keep saying this forever: The problem of tranny optics is the trannies themselves.
I'm literally bisexual and winning to date trannies regardless of the genitals they have but the suggestion that Normal Straight People should be the same is a level of mental retardation that should get you a one way ticket to a mental asylum.

>>41698039
this could be said of gay people being tolerated at all 50 years ago. maybe the 99.5% are the problem. maybe thats always been the case, and the entire reason we want """progress""" at all. if theyre so wonderful, why do so many of them abuse us as children? why are our lives shorter and so often filled with a disproportionate level of misery? and i dont just mean trans people, i mean gay people and lesbians too.

this is why we treat bi people like shit, youve no intention of doing anything other than batting for them against us in spite of wanting to be in relationships with us. youre like an abusive partner you dont even need to date to be abused by. i hope for everyones sake you stay lonely for the rest of your life.

>>41698058
Gays did not demand straights to change their dating habits.

>>41691807
>Cis men don't want to date me because of my penis
>FUCKING TRANSPHOBIC ASSHOLES
>Cis men want to date me because of my penis
>FUCKING TRANSPHOBIC ASSHOLES

>>41690643
>it is literally so very not a big deal
I’m so glad I avoid swinger culture, ez way to avoid rapehons like this

>>41698104
yes they did. they demanded not to be murdered or imprisoned for the protection of the egos of DL bi men.

>>41698144
>you fucked a man, now I'm telling everyone >:3
>why does everyone hate me so!?

>>41698151
do you not see how utterly fucking repulsive you are in that statement?

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>>41697537
>If a post op trans woman is functionally no different than an infertile cis woman, there’s no obligation to disclose being trans
This hypothetical can never be true. An inverted, ruined penis is not a vagina

>Otherwise they can pound sand.
Not much difference between pounding sand and a Frankensteined death hole

You people are deranged narcissists if a critical mass of you actually think like this, and you deserve the backlash you're getting

>>41691807
Some men, sure. But, the man has to be gay enough to not mind the dick in the first place. And trannies get all weirded out if they bring any attention to the dick, so, like, why bother with trannies at all?

>>41691807
Why should a cis man choose a trans woman's asshole over a cis woman's pussy?
Trans woman dick is off limits anyway, so there's literally only downgrades to the experience

>>41698058
Again, I am not saying "trans acceptance" is a a bad thing. I'm saying this conception of trans acceptance, as spelled out by the Xitter retard, is neither possible nor desirable.
Trans acceptance will AT MOST entail people going "you are trans? that's cool. Anyways but back on that car I leased..." In the exact manner that gay acceptance will ever at best be the same, rather than some ultra-schizo leftist retardbabble about "nuking the family". There will never be a single moment in which people will think "I akshully don't at all care about the genitals of my partner!".
The rest of your comment warrants no addressing as it's emotion driven babble. If you thought more and felt less you would perhaps understand how little power out entire community actually has and how EVERYTHING nice we have, we got because the "99.5% of evil normal people!!!" were persuaded into being slightly nicer to us instead of some pathetic revolutionary power fantasy leftards insist on pushing so much.

>>41698165
If you can't even tell its not your problem, retard

>>41698217
if you actually read more and spoke less bullshit youd know that everything you just said is complete and utter bullshit. mass change is possible, but you need organised, competent minorities to do this and weve been crippled by """allies""" that see us as something to be used. we can and have made substantial ground in eroding heterosexual desire. if you cant see that, then youre the one speaking from emotion rather than reason.

>>41690643
some people have genital preference
some people have racial preference
some people have preference for ability
some people have sexuality preference
some people have gender preference
some people have sex preference
some people have natal sex preference
some people have cultural preference

i think the people should respect their preferences because they are the foundation of a good loving relationship. if you end up in a relationship that you don't really love bc they didn't declare half of what matters to your preferences until you were too far committed, that relationship is probably doomed.

>>41698270
cis men aren't allowed to have any of those preferences, look at the meltdown any time a man mentions they want a woman with a penis who is dominant and tops

>>41698282
To be fair, a lot of cis women are getting flak for not wanting to date transgender women. Some even say they're getting raped through coercion because of the social pressures of being called transphobic.

>>41690643
There's a lot of overlap between incels and trannies.
>"Let me fuck you, whore/bigot!"

>>41698349
Really? That's kinda bullshit, forcing your shit down women's throats lowk kinda malebrained.

Men preferring trannies is exactly what I expect because men are based lol

>>41698362
Virgin:
>You won't have sex with me? Fucking bigot
>Look stacy... uhm just as a lesbian im just not really into gock
>Fuck you bitch ima fuck u up

vs Chad:
>Uhuhuhuhuhuh, i diden't know you had a massiveshlong
>Ehrm, please don't call it shlong I kind of dysph-
>Uhuhuhuhuh, she said massive shlong

>>41698349
see i hate this a lot more than i hate straight men being pressured into liking us. i wish we had the means to clamp down on these weird cis girl chasers and basically force T4T on them.

>>41698375
>hehehe, yeah, i want a girlfriend like that
>boyoyoyoyoyoing

>>41698282

Trannies can't abstract from anything that doesn't involve themselves and their feelings. They are forever stuck in a childlike state where they can not comprehend why advocating for things that inconvenience or even harm others could possibly be considered morally reprehensible. "But it makes me feel good! Why can't I have that?" Is the only recurring logic in any given tranny rationalization.

The ultimate goal of every single tranny is to be coddled, spoiled and desired for the sake of narcissism and validation. They are incapable of devoting their minds to any purpose higher than their own carnal desires, and thus their consensus as a mentally deficient group incapable of responsibility should be entirely disregarded for the wellness of society.

>>41698427
a lot of trannies dont do that so shut up dumbass

>>41694448
>It's the same as with sports. How many people does this affect really? Like how many trannies out there actually stealth at such a level?
It affects every tranny, because trannies don't engage with sports in the first place due to the soft/hard discrimination. Women in sports already have to deal with "sports are masculine" stereotypes, and a lot of trannies are hypersensitive to how doing a "masculine" activity will affect their perception as feminine.
Your argument is like going, "How many people does building this house benefit, really? It's an empty lot and no one lives there. If someone wanted to live there then there would be a house already. So let's deny the building permit to preserve the neighbourhood character for the people already living here."
Sometimes you have to do something to help the out-group become part of the in-group. You can just screech about how the out-group isn't showing up (on account of the fact you are excluding them).

>>41698427
A lot of trannies I've seen are exactly how you described. They often don't see their hypocrisy, or they just double down on it via thought-terminating cliches and name-calling. Though, that seems to be a common phenomenon with leftists in general. When confronted with their own hypocrisy (which they can't escape via plausible deniability) they just call you a troll/bot. It's annoying how true stereotypes are.

>>41698357
>There's a lot of overlap between incels and trannies.
>>"Let me fuck you, whore/bigot!"

Well, they are both groups of sexually frustrated males.

>>41698362
>>41698381
It's wholesome when transgender women rape, though.

>>41698474
Yeah, at this point I just dislike people in general, both men and women. Most people are so egotistical and subliminal.

>>41693631
>Heterosexual man: 'Oh no my date has a penis, that's not my thing. I'll politely decline.'
>Totally not gay man: 'Oh no my date has a penis, I'd better chimp out and accuse her of trying to turn me gay.'

Endless manipulation with the rainbow crowd. Dressing as another gender to deceive, or attempting to deceive by omission of data is all deceit, all the way around. Doctors want your money in their pocket, so they're not going to be honest enough to tell you that your lifestyle is based upon deceit, most of all deceit to yourself first and foremost. Whatever genitals you were born with, that's what you are until the end.

>>41698198
The point is that men think the presence of a penis magically turns you gay through its supernatural faggotification powers. If you don't like penis you can say 'do you have a penis' and then politely turn them down. Throwing a tantrum because you were attracted to someone who turned out to have a cock is just retarded.

We already know you're trans. You don't hide it in real life because you have no filters and selective selfie angling.
You get that right

>>41698472
you lump me in with retards i never liked either and then tell me how my own shit works, i reserve the right to call you an idiot

>>41698580
also, gen right wingers do this thing where they use 1800's/"academic" language (they can't tell the difference lol) to package the most kindergardener tier takes that are probably based on made up shit anyways. So you aren't immune to stupid mannerisms and bullshit no one likes either.

>I will torture, rape, murder, and oppress you and laugh about it
>but don't you dare disregard my feelings!
why are cisoids like this?

>>41690643
No, that's weird rapey bullshit. Trans acceptance will be complete when you can buy hormones OTC at a pharmacist and nobody cares.

>>41698562
Some men are just disgusted by male genitalia. Apparently, straight men's physiological stress response to seeing two men kissing is the same as seeing maggots, so I can imagine it applies elsewhere, too.

>>41699257
This study was done on a bunch of homophobic mormon retards

>>41698512
no

>>41699283
I wouldn't be surprised if being disgusted by gay stuff is the norm among men.

>>41690643
genital preference is valid
hiding yours until the last moment to hopefully pressure someone into sex is not ok, it's borderline predatory

>>41699286
Yes it is, teehee!

>>41690643
Ragebait used to be believable!

>>41690643
I don't understand the logic of the person in the image. Some people have genital preferences, with some people being grossed out by penises or vaginas, making sex not possible, with everyone's time being wasted.

>>41698165
Where did I state that a neo vagina is exactly like a natal vagina? We’re not stating there’s a womb and ovaries attached. And if you’re a dude willing to date an infertile woman, and if what you see, and feel down there is no different, what are you even arguing about?
>waah wahh, it needs to be made in utero waah
No one is convinced that either you or anyone is purposefully going if their way to take their potential date to a doctor to “verify” it’s a cis woman’s level of vagina, or to even check her chromosomes. You know what the mass majority of people do when they’re dating? They mainly just want to fuck and have it feel good for both parties. Puritans need to just confess that their hangups are so debilitating for them that they need to share it with their prospective dates from now until they stop bitching about “uhhhmmm, am connoisseur for cissy vagina acktualy”.

>>41699306
genital preference is sexual preference. if you have a dick and prefer people with a dick, it's gay.

>>41690643
It's immoral not to disclose. Most men aren't gay or bisexual, and thus would not accept sex if disclosed. It is effectively sexual assault to not disclose.

>>41699298
>I wouldn’t be surprised if years of conditioning the masses on stereotypes and toxic masculinity (including feeling emasculated) warrants physical response.
Like sheep

>>41700515
>bandwagon fallacy
Years ago, people would argue most men were racist (a large portion still are today). That doesn’t make it “moral” to disclose. People with preferences should just state their preferences up front.

>>41696053
>demanding sex
if the guy willingly had sex with you, you didn't demand it. You were also not raped if you went around cruising and happened to fuck a pooner

>>41698349
>To be fair, a lot of cis women are getting flak for not wanting to date transgender women.
i don't think this is true
most cis women, even if we limit it to only the ones who date women, will never end up dating a trans woman. there are just a lot more cis women attracted to women than there are trans women. if people paired up completely randomly it still wouldn't happen that often, and it gets even rarer when you take into account that a lot of trans lesbians are dating other trans women. if you actually don't want to date trans women, it's very easy to not do that. there is no law stating you have to explain your reasons for turning someone down.
what people are getting flak for is being weirdly vocal about their preference in this specific circumstance. if you randomly launch into rants about how you never date redheads, people are going to think that's weird and not want to hang out with you. if you simply don't date redheads, no one will even notice.

>>41699257
That's a them problem. If they're really so disgusted by the idea of a penis they can ask about it. I shouldn't have to walk around with a sign saying 'I have a cock! Don't have sex with me or you're a faggot!'

>>41690928
so just how women act, get embarrassed by a consensual sexual encounter and cry rape

>>41698039
>bulk of the human population suffering for the sake of 0.5%
lmfao
kinda like a certain cohort of well off people who own...
anyways my bad g, didn't realize calling me she and treating me like a woman caused so much suffering

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>>41690701
im a transbian with a preference for dick
srsoids can be frens tho

>>41690643
I think it's the opposite where people need to accept genitals do matter for the majority of the population. Man, woman, or enby, I'm outta there if there's no chance at bio children together.

>>41700526
That's just conjecture, though.

>>41701307
Yeah, it's bit of an awkward situation for both.
>"Excuse me, do you have a penis?"
Would get men a slap.

>>41702219
>"Yes, Nazi Jew-round-up guy, I do have Jews in my basement."

>>41703209
you know that image is right but you felt compelled to reply with reddit garbage
take some time to ruminate on why you did that

>>41703180
Then just 'are you a tranny, it's a point of contention for me.' At least ask before having sex with them.

Or they can get over the fact that they could, at any time, be magically turned gay by accidentally being attracted to a trans woman in a bar.

i don't care to be fair but i think it is important for the large majority of people

>>41693958
an amab with incurable gender dysphoria aint exactly a man, anon. current science suggests they're on the mediumly unfortunate spectrum of "intersex" women, if you compare them to CAIS, PAIS, PCOS, vaginal agenesis and so on, which have close prevalence rates to the "standard" gender dysphoria - it being an umbrella term for probably a dozen different disorders of sex development

>>41691807
i'm a cis man but shit when i'm fucking a tranny or twink nothing is better than playing with his or her dick and making them cum

>>41704118
All I did was point out the retarded logic.

>>41693289
nta but are you actually fucking braindead
you're making the assumption that there's a point to sex beyond having kids for most people. which was their point. are you genuinely retarded.

>>41690643
Why do troons not understand no means no and people's sexual orientations are non-negotiable?

>>41691115
Beer goggles is a thing.

>>41690643
Based.

>>41691154
This mentality is why normies are turning on you.