Only ftms get to change their gender because T actually does something while E doesnt.You can surgery cope all you want but it doesnt change the fundemental limitations of the hormone.
>>41696498"T actually does something"I would never even think of dating the average FtM as a gay male on EI treat them as masculinised lesbians and if they take issue with this i assume theyre the wrong type of FtM and either make fun of them or stop talking to them. I dont hate gaydens in principle, I just think they should be T4T like the transbians are.
>>41696791I share this sentiment as an FTM, it is great suicide fuel.Many people get lucky. Dose matters. It's all a spectrum. But there are many FtMs that fall into "More than a woman but not quite a male"I am considering using other steroids in my future if I cannot grow out of looking like a 14 year old boy/girl.
>>41696791> as a gay male on ElolLmao
>>41696807if it helps, FtMfren, I'm the same on the other end. I look womanish enough to catch shit for it, but thats about it. hips broader than my shoulders, hands that fit in womens gloves, but still visibly AMAB.>I am considering using other steroids in my future if I cannot grow out of looking like a 14 year old boy/girl.most steroids wont do more than upping your dose of T would, but you straight up should be on growth hormone if you want better results. i had a significant increase in hip width in my 30s and i think it may well have been from that. beyond that its basically tren, ERb based roids, and other non-AAS anabolic agents.
>>41696833straight boys and former straight boys will never understandthe FtMs who call themselves lesbians still get it thoughthey understand
>>41696837>>41696848Calling myself a lesbian doesn't help. I've been sort of living like that though. Don't say it, but I feel that way. I know there is so much separating me from men and it's humiliating and upsetting. Much easier to try and believe in gurl pwr or something, not that I ever did, but ykou know. Butches are hot and they do it better than I can, why even bother telling yourself you're a man when you know there's nothing relating you to them beyond a "deep" voice (Cis men still have larger skulls and chests and it rings better) and a flat chest induced with bandages.Being attracted to men makes it worse. I can never be anything for them, I am too fucking pathetic. I'd like to try, but the more I think about it, the less likely it seems. It is hard to truly transition to the opposite sex. All you can do is cope. I feel bad for all of the transbians who must ignore their attraction to cis women.
>>41696876see, now that youve said youre attracted to men this takes another tone. nothing bothers me about being different to cis women beyond that which grants me power and social opportunities. i want out of the peter pan twink cage, and i refuse to do it in a way that gratifies gods favourite class of pedophiles at the expense of myself and my joys. better to be an aberration than to belong to them, but better still to be a well paid, more complete aberration.
