I'm genuinely struggling to cope with being a cis man. Being a tranny and dysphoric would obviously suck, but each time I'm reminded I'm that I'm most comfortable being a man, I can't help but be filled with intense dread and grief. It's an extremely irrational fear of missing out on something, which wouldn't even be for me.
This sounds like how the "agonizing and obvious" stage of dysphoria starts, start experimenting to see if being a woman sounds any better, steal ur mum/girlfriends clothes if you have to. Look into your past, almost everyone will remember something sus (even things no one else noticed because you hid it). You may be cooked, just saying.
>>41698320or don't do the clothes stealing part, depending on how your body is you will hate it or love it. (Although the reason you hate it can be very informative ngl)
>>41698320This is all good advice, but unfortunately the dread and grief I feel now is the direct product of the fact that I've tried it all out. I've tried wearing women's clothes, I've tried looking for past memories, I've even tried hrt twice, and everything has only been more proof that I'm cis. I really should be glad that I'm cis, but I can't help but mourn what I never was, and never will be.
>>41698338Trying out women's clothes didn't provide me with any meaningful insight. I couldn't even tell whether I like or disliked the clothes and how I felt about my body. I'm very indifferent and detached in general
Why would you post this here? I don't think that wasting your time on this board will help
>>41698304What is it that makes you uncomfortable?
>>41698304Punpun is also my favorite manga. I will help you to process your thoughts and emotions by sharing my life experience and anecdotes. Perhaps, it will give you some insight. You might be nonbinary. You will figure it out over time, be patient, don't be too frustrated with not having an immediate answer. A lot of us find ourselves over time. I'm a trans woman but I also realized I was nonbinary and bigender over time. Bigender means you want to be both at once. It's also possible you have the opposite, you don't want to be either. It's also possible to not want anything in particular. I don't think you're a cis man. I think you're in a gender questioning phase of your life. Take as much time as you need to think it over. If you think you could be happier in a female form - puberty blockers are reversible, it's alright to block the T and think it over. Be patient with yourself. You'll just find different ways to explore and discover yourself over time, you don't need all the tools, solutions, answers right now. Try to be comfortable with the doubts, and lack of closure for now. Most of us were not 100% sure. You could be a trans woman for 15 years and still not be sure. When you're confronted with SRS for a trans man or trans woman, sometimes you get humbled by doubt, asking if you're really trans when you make a permanent decision. Yes, they could be trans for more than a decade and get confronted by that. Dysphoria is also on a spectrum and looks different for everyone. What you can do is gather the information you have now and do your best with what you have. Just try your best and it'll be ok. Maybe spend time around queer people in spaces where you feel safe, see how you feel. I hope that is helpful to you in some way. Take care.
>>41700523go back
>>41700543to reddit?
>>41700451I don't even know myself. It's all so confusing. I know I'm not only fine with being a man, but also wouldn't be with any alternative. Yet I still greatly dread living the rest of my life as one. It feels both dreary and claustrophobic to imagine the rest of my life, no matter how superficially successful I'd be. Like I'm being forced to play a game I never wanted to be a part of. Nothing really feels tangible or as if it has any significance.
>>41700673Not you but it feels like being a man is kind of wasted on me. Like if you're good at a sport that you somewhat enjoy. Yeah I can play this and I'd rather be good at this than not good at anything but what if I was good at something else.I don't ever wake up and say "aw man I wish I was a girl" but I do sometimes see a woman cross my path and think "I think I'd enjoy it if I could steal her life"
>>41698304With any of these things everyone ITT is going to project because they don’t know you so get a therapist if you don’t have one. The trans girls will think you’re trans and I’ll think you’re cis. From my cis perspective (aka me projecting) I felt just like this and felt dysphoric but I also didn’t deeply identify as another gender. I bought more sensitive femmier clothes and stopped forcing myself to rigidly perform masculinity and it helped immensely. The west has an extremely narrow box for what is considered normal male temperament, and it’s easy to internalize this and become distressed if you aren’t fully gender conforming. Maybe you aren’t letting yourself find yourself because you’re still attempting to cram yourself into the tiny boxes of masculine man or feminine woman. Skip the titty skittles and try a different approach if you don’t actually identify as a woman.
>>41700747This is very relatable. The envy I get from seeing certain women also feels inherently vain and deluded. My life clearly wouldn't be better if I were a woman, but it's a nice thing to believe sometimes. I should be able to actually improve my life and be happy as a man. Nothing is stopping me but myself. Yet I can't help but be disheartened
>>41701313>the west has an extremely narrow box for what is considered normal male temperamentas opposed to what? the hyper feminine africans who are known for their super supportive takes on homosexuality? or maybe the 2 billion muslim population who enjoy homosexuality as a casual brotherly act of bonding? Or maybe the 1 billion chinese who recite chinese proverbs about sucking cock and anal douching?Lmao why do westoid faggots love to act as if their life isn't as easy mode as it gets for a faggot.
>>41701862The west is one of the most accepting places when it comes to homosexuality but you have an extremely low resolution take on other cultural practices and gender norms. OP didn’t even bring up his sexuality. Also zeroing in on whether or not the west is worse than other places is irrelevant, the fact is that there are gendered expectations wherever on the planet he lives and some cis people can feel trapped by them if they fall outside of the norm.
>>41698354>cant help but mourn what I never wasOkay so you're definitely not cis because that is textbook being trans. Sorry
>>41702055I'm saying that I'm cis because I'm convinced that being anything but a man would make me feel genuine gender dysphoria. The melancholy and sorrow I feel now is self imposed and probably very superficial, and nothing akin to what actual trans people feel
>>41698304I used to be this exact way. I was very concerned with the issue. Eventually I found things I appreciate in life and these feelings mostly disappeared. Right now I'm going through some kind of depression and wouldn't be surprised if the feelings come back again. But I must stress I have never, ever felt dysphoria, or a real need to be a woman, just like you seem to claim in your post.I believe that you have a vacancy in your life somewhere. Something is missing. This is where my (non-)expertise ends
>>41702530you are making pure assumptions and not actually getting lived experience data. try harder
>>41702580Try harder by doing what? I've already tried almost everything I could think of.
>>41702572You are probably right, even if these feelings started when I was doing quite well emotionally. I'm really trying to work on myself and improve my quality of life, but at this point I'm feeling uneasy at the thought of these feelings disappearing just as they appeared
This nigga is too stupid to realize he is trans, because he has a rigid idea of what he thinks dysphoria looks like.
these trans niggas be too rigid in their thinking dawg
>>41702834If I were actually trans, then hrt wouldn't have made me reverse dysphoric. Unfortunately it did though, so I must be cis
>>41702908that's nonbiney niggaAre you stupid?
>>41702977I really don't want to be nonbiney. I'd prefer to be fully happy with one or the other. Both being a man or a woman feeling wrong just sucks
>>41698304what do you feel like you're missing out on? When have you felt like the opposite...like when you're doing something worthwhile?
>>41698354>I can't help but mourn what I never was, and never will be.....bruhwhat are you describing? never was what? never will be...what? be specific
>>41703161and fuck the trans angle who cares
>>41703142There's nothing concrete I should feel like I'm missing out on. Maybe there are some aspects of socialization or self expression which I'd feel slightly more comfortable with, but I can easily live without them. Testosterone is kinda nasty, but also very pragmatic, and while estrogen sounds nice, it unfortunately doesn't feel right.The only times I felt like the opposite was in a random dream which started it all, and while tripping on shrooms. Otherwise I just feel like a guy
>>41703161I was talking about being a woman. Should've clarified it there
>>41703137Nigga you are nonbiney Wanting to be or not isn't the questionNigga you are nonbineyAccept it
>>41703645If that's the case, then it genuinely sucks to be nonbiney. No matter what, everything I pick will be a compromise and won't ever feel truly right unfortunately. I hope I'm wrong though
>>41700423This is the only place I can vent about this. I hope it's more welcome than the bait threads posted here constantly
