Why do FTMs who crash out tend to either go full radfem Terf or trad wife? I have seen multiple such cases and personally know someone who used to be FTM and is now a repper living some sort of trad wife lifestyle in a rich guy's suburban house. They got a fat transfer boob job and complained to me about feeling dysphoric due to having big boobs, but went and dressed as a Southern Belle for boyfriend's Halloween party. Also became super "racially conscious." Somehow is friends with a detrans terf who hates cis men.I just don't get it.
they figured out that fascism is necessary to maintain their worldview
>>41742959What does that mean?
>>41742948Dressing like a southern belle and having some pro-White views doesn't make someone a literal Nazi.
>>41743012it means that they understand things more clearly than the average non-transitioner
>>41742948Because it's a cope? You need some kind of deranged high-grade copium to try and bury such strong feelings.
>>41742948most detransers have admitted they still have some form of dysphoria (see: that detransitioner who went full christian tradwife and confessed that she represses her dysphoria because "its what jesus wants") and at the end of the day dysphoria is extremely powerful and can't just be snuffed out. people meme about it but john 50 is a textbook case of what repression does to you; you literally go insane from not living as your true self.as for why they go full terf, it's because terfs know that trans people at large are mentally fragile and easily manipulated. plus there's a lot of money in being a successful detranser, even if it's just shit like being invited to events. plus being around terfs 24/7 is a surefire way to make sure you never ever entertain the tranny thoughts again because they would immediately drop you.
>>41742948It's usually that they detrans because they go TERF. The fact that they'll never be cis men eats them alive so it's easy to get into the rhetoric that they're just confused women and it will get better that way. That doesn't resolve their dysphoria either so they need to entertain these terf thoughts to keep the tranny thoughts out.
>>41743328>plus there's a lot of money in being a successful detranser, even if it's just shit like being invited to events.Imo, the vast majority of detransitioners aren't going to be making any money off their stories. There's only a small handful who get paid to go to events. >plus being around terfs 24/7 is a surefire way to make sure you never ever entertain the tranny thoughts again because they would immediately drop you.Do you think they plan for that or that TERFs just happen to be talking about the same things as detransitioners so they gravitate to each other?
>>41743378That would explain the terfs but not the alt right types.
>>41742948Those are the only way to cope with being female if being female is super horrible for you I suppose
>>41743568terf to alt right pipeline is extremely common
>>41742948If I were forced to detrans I’d probably have to do one of those. It’s an “if I can’t have fun then no one can” thing.
>>41742948They see the truththe folly in their dysphoria and transition into a worthless creatureSave others from dysphoric deluluWomanmaxx and benefit
Some ftms are just dysphoric from being too fem but they misunderstand it and think they're masc and when they figure it out it's everyone else's problem
>>41743678Ironically the only ones who can womanmaxx are the ones who are actually tomboy brained enough to see the logic in doing so. The quirky yaoi addicted artist types will pretty much never do that.
they realized being a 4'11 dude was a waste of life and took the ultimate subservient black pill
>>41744028A lot of cis guys think short tomboys are adorable whereas most short gaydens, especially those that look like women and don't pass, have terrible dating options. I remember reading a thread on r/detrans by FTMTFs who were talking about how many weirdos they used to attract and how they now had better quality men interested in them.
>>41744151So some gaydens can literally go from a 3 to a 7 just by dropping the pronouns and changing identity. It's something most real incels could only dream of.
>>41743650Why not both at the same time?
>>41742948A radical feminist cannot ever be a tradwife. RFs know that women are and have been oppressed due to their sex and reckognize and fight that, tradwives give in and become fuckable toys to breed with.Besides, "tErF" is just a slur now for women fed up with men invading our spaces.
>>41744580>complains about muh TiMs invading wombyn-only spaces>invades tranny spaces
>>41744446I do that by MtTposting
I'm not detrans, but I grew up with intense christian values and I legitimately feared going to hell.
>>41744580I'm not saying that TERFs and redpilled women are the same, I'm saying that a lot of detransitioners who are former ftms end up falling into one or the other category. Some become the type of feminists who think about gender 24/7 and define themselves as fighting "the patriarchy" and go to war against cis male instincts while others end up as the redpill trad wife types.
>>41742948have to belong to something, right???if ur transition hinged on being in a 'community' and u leave one 'community' then it leaves an empty vacuum terf is just another 'community' that is glad to fill that empty space
>>41744580>tradwives give in and become fuckable toys to breed with.Most tradwives are just regular women who don't want to work a 9 to 5 and figured out they can get men to pay for everything if they talk about gender roles and make them 1 meal a day
>>41742948Idk, why do mtfs that detrans shoot up schools?
>>41744920Male aggression.
>>41744788The difference is men like to hang out with redpill women whereas terfs normally only have female friends, so terf communities attract a lot of lesbians.
>>41744159I think this is the answer
>>41744637She could be a lesbian or bi woman who is just being honest about what she thinks.
>>41742948usually the ones that do that sort of thing were in very clingy internet communities prior to detransitioning so they go to extremes to try and immediately conform to a new community, even if their heart isn't truly in it
>>41744028nature's bottoms... it truly is inescapable for afabs
>>41742948Detrans aren't FTM. They aren't trans men. They're cis women.
>>41745972Detransitioners used to be FTM although how far they went with HRT & surgery varies a lot.
>>41746024>used to be
>>41746045Some people really do detransition after finding alternative ways of handling dysphoria rather than further medicalization. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, positive affirmations, and hypnosis all work in some cases. People just feel threatened by it so they try to tell you that you're a repper. If you can get rid of 90% + of your dysphoria and aren't on HRT then you can't still be FTM.
>>41746194>I sissy hypnoed my way out of wanting to be a man!l o l
>>41742948zeal of the convert.
>>41742948Same reason repressing MTFs join the army or try to become a gym bro. What the fuck else is there to get? ... They're running from themselves.
>>41744028My friend that I mentioned in the post is like 5'3" so there might be something to that. They also couldn't afford top surgery and had unimpressive results on T, literally looked like a boyish girl larping. I think everyone assumes all FTMs will pass well but some don't.
>>41746208Strawman
My sister was so close to getting a full hysto at fucking 19 years old because of this, Thankfully she is 26 now and married with all her healthy parts.
>>41746713Glad to hear she's doing better. The social contagion theory has some truth to it.
>>41742948>Why Do So Many FTMs Go Full TERF or Fascist Trad Wife When They Detrans?They get to be controlling and dominant all while from the outside it looks like they are the subservient gf/wife. subversion essentially
>>41746713hey anon, as someone who had a hysto, can you give a bit more info? in general people don't seriously entertain getting one if they don't need it, and most people would prefer to have top surgery first.not saying detransing was a bad choice, but "having all your healthy parts" and "potential hysto at 19" are 2 statements that raise questions
>>41742948I would never go TERF cause not retarded or truly evil. I would go trade wife for the drugged out house wife cope since I don’t have the balls to kill myself quite literally. Probably spit in my husbands/wifes coffee too. Dysphoria doesn’t go away but transitioning didnt make me male just a pooner.
>>41747159If your husband cared enough to marry you and pay for you to stay home all day why the hell would you think its okay to spit in his coffee?
>>41747175I swear sometimes pooners have a weird bad x anti social personality disorder thing going on.
>>41742948>"detrans" ftmtf>but never get a BBL or boobie procedure to fix their prepubescent boy twink flat body >no extensions at all>no lip filler (they need it)"detrans" lol okay
>>41746795>They get to be controlling and dominant all while from the outside it looks like they are the subservient gf/wife.I doubt most of the trad wives are truly dominating their household, they just get to boss other women around and talk shit online until their man comes home.
