they figured out that fascism is necessary to maintain their worldview

>>41742959
What does that mean?

>>41742948
Dressing like a southern belle and having some pro-White views doesn't make someone a literal Nazi.

>>41743012
it means that they understand things more clearly than the average non-transitioner

>>41742948
Because it's a cope? You need some kind of deranged high-grade copium to try and bury such strong feelings.

>>41742948
most detransers have admitted they still have some form of dysphoria (see: that detransitioner who went full christian tradwife and confessed that she represses her dysphoria because "its what jesus wants") and at the end of the day dysphoria is extremely powerful and can't just be snuffed out. people meme about it but john 50 is a textbook case of what repression does to you; you literally go insane from not living as your true self.
as for why they go full terf, it's because terfs know that trans people at large are mentally fragile and easily manipulated. plus there's a lot of money in being a successful detranser, even if it's just shit like being invited to events. plus being around terfs 24/7 is a surefire way to make sure you never ever entertain the tranny thoughts again because they would immediately drop you.

>>41742948
It's usually that they detrans because they go TERF. The fact that they'll never be cis men eats them alive so it's easy to get into the rhetoric that they're just confused women and it will get better that way. That doesn't resolve their dysphoria either so they need to entertain these terf thoughts to keep the tranny thoughts out.

>>41743328
>plus there's a lot of money in being a successful detranser, even if it's just shit like being invited to events.

Imo, the vast majority of detransitioners aren't going to be making any money off their stories. There's only a small handful who get paid to go to events.

>plus being around terfs 24/7 is a surefire way to make sure you never ever entertain the tranny thoughts again because they would immediately drop you.

Do you think they plan for that or that TERFs just happen to be talking about the same things as detransitioners so they gravitate to each other?

>>41743378
That would explain the terfs but not the alt right types.

>>41742948
Those are the only way to cope with being female if being female is super horrible for you I suppose

>>41743568
terf to alt right pipeline is extremely common

>>41742948
If I were forced to detrans I’d probably have to do one of those. It’s an “if I can’t have fun then no one can” thing.

>>41742948
They see the truth
the folly in their dysphoria and transition into a worthless creature

Save others from dysphoric delulu
Womanmaxx and benefit

Some ftms are just dysphoric from being too fem but they misunderstand it and think they're masc and when they figure it out it's everyone else's problem

>>41743678
Ironically the only ones who can womanmaxx are the ones who are actually tomboy brained enough to see the logic in doing so. The quirky yaoi addicted artist types will pretty much never do that.

they realized being a 4'11 dude was a waste of life and took the ultimate subservient black pill

>>41744028
A lot of cis guys think short tomboys are adorable whereas most short gaydens, especially those that look like women and don't pass, have terrible dating options. I remember reading a thread on r/detrans by FTMTFs who were talking about how many weirdos they used to attract and how they now had better quality men interested in them.

>>41744151
So some gaydens can literally go from a 3 to a 7 just by dropping the pronouns and changing identity. It's something most real incels could only dream of.

>>41743650
Why not both at the same time?

>>41742948
A radical feminist cannot ever be a tradwife. RFs know that women are and have been oppressed due to their sex and reckognize and fight that, tradwives give in and become fuckable toys to breed with.
Besides, "tErF" is just a slur now for women fed up with men invading our spaces.

>>41744580
>complains about muh TiMs invading wombyn-only spaces
>invades tranny spaces

>>41744446
I do that by MtTposting

I'm not detrans, but I grew up with intense christian values and I legitimately feared going to hell.

>>41744580
I'm not saying that TERFs and redpilled women are the same, I'm saying that a lot of detransitioners who are former ftms end up falling into one or the other category. Some become the type of feminists who think about gender 24/7 and define themselves as fighting "the patriarchy" and go to war against cis male instincts while others end up as the redpill trad wife types.

>>41742948
have to belong to something, right???
if ur transition hinged on being in a 'community' and u leave one 'community' then it leaves an empty vacuum
terf is just another 'community' that is glad to fill that empty space

>>41744580
>tradwives give in and become fuckable toys to breed with.
Most tradwives are just regular women who don't want to work a 9 to 5 and figured out they can get men to pay for everything if they talk about gender roles and make them 1 meal a day

>>41742948
Idk, why do mtfs that detrans shoot up schools?

>>41744920
Male aggression.

>>41744788
The difference is men like to hang out with redpill women whereas terfs normally only have female friends, so terf communities attract a lot of lesbians.

>>41744159
I think this is the answer

>>41744637
She could be a lesbian or bi woman who is just being honest about what she thinks.

>>41742948
usually the ones that do that sort of thing were in very clingy internet communities prior to detransitioning so they go to extremes to try and immediately conform to a new community, even if their heart isn't truly in it

>>41744028
nature's bottoms... it truly is inescapable for afabs

>>41742948
Detrans aren't FTM. They aren't trans men. They're cis women.

>>41745972
Detransitioners used to be FTM although how far they went with HRT & surgery varies a lot.

>>41746024
>used to be

>>41746045
Some people really do detransition after finding alternative ways of handling dysphoria rather than further medicalization. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, positive affirmations, and hypnosis all work in some cases. People just feel threatened by it so they try to tell you that you're a repper.

If you can get rid of 90% + of your dysphoria and aren't on HRT then you can't still be FTM.

>>41746194
>I sissy hypnoed my way out of wanting to be a man!
l o l

>>41742948
zeal of the convert.

>>41742948
Same reason repressing MTFs join the army or try to become a gym bro. What the fuck else is there to get? ... They're running from themselves.

>>41744028
My friend that I mentioned in the post is like 5'3" so there might be something to that. They also couldn't afford top surgery and had unimpressive results on T, literally looked like a boyish girl larping. I think everyone assumes all FTMs will pass well but some don't.

>>41746208
Strawman

My sister was so close to getting a full hysto at fucking 19 years old because of this, Thankfully she is 26 now and married with all her healthy parts.

>>41746713
Glad to hear she's doing better. The social contagion theory has some truth to it.

>>41742948
>Why Do So Many FTMs Go Full TERF or Fascist Trad Wife When They Detrans?
They get to be controlling and dominant all while from the outside it looks like they are the subservient gf/wife. subversion essentially

>>41746713
hey anon, as someone who had a hysto, can you give a bit more info? in general people don't seriously entertain getting one if they don't need it, and most people would prefer to have top surgery first.

not saying detransing was a bad choice, but "having all your healthy parts" and "potential hysto at 19" are 2 statements that raise questions

>>41742948
I would never go TERF cause not retarded or truly evil. I would go trade wife for the drugged out house wife cope since I don’t have the balls to kill myself quite literally. Probably spit in my husbands/wifes coffee too. Dysphoria doesn’t go away but transitioning didnt make me male just a pooner.

>>41747159
If your husband cared enough to marry you and pay for you to stay home all day why the hell would you think its okay to spit in his coffee?

>>41747175
I swear sometimes pooners have a weird bad x anti social personality disorder thing going on.

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>>41742948
>"detrans" ftmtf
>but never get a BBL or boobie procedure to fix their prepubescent boy twink flat body
>no extensions at all
>no lip filler (they need it)
"detrans" lol okay

>>41746795
>They get to be controlling and dominant all while from the outside it looks like they are the subservient gf/wife.

I doubt most of the trad wives are truly dominating their household, they just get to boss other women around and talk shit online until their man comes home.

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Would you stay friends with someone who did what OP's friend did?

>>41747542
>I doubt most of the trad wives
none of them are actually trad wives, they always get together with some weak soi guy

Women realize they are at the top of the power structure and men are at the bottom and gender roles were always originally created and enforced by women to enslave men. They want to be a man but don't want to be second class citizens and would rather be treated well and unhappy with their bodies.

>>41747282
lol yeah this isn't pointed out enough. they're "detrans" but don't undergo reversal procedures and just pretend that's not possible to do.

>>41747175
The world isn’t a fairy tale. Nobody does anything without getting something out of it. I would probably be a sex object and emotional punching bag that my partner doesn’t actually care about. My dysphoria is bad, the moment I stop dissociating I want to kill myself kind of bad. We wouldn’t be together out of love, it would be a contract. People like me don’t get “love” but worst things in life. Ever trans person is a women I guess idk

>>41742948
i would say that many people, perhaps most people dont know moderation and something is either good or really bad. Feeling neutral about something you think ruined your life is pretty hard.

>>41748769
Please seek therapy and focus on non-dysphoria related stuff (about self-love) anon, you sound like you have some really negative thought patterns and assumptions about the world. You deserve love too.

>>41746776
especially for gullible people

you know
AFaBs

>>41748900
I did and now I am a pooner. I am the type of thing people take photos of and mock in places like this. Therapy is just a dumb bitch going “you will never look like a normal male stupid haha be okay with looking like a freak of nature even if now you are subhuman”. I can tell you are a tourist, leave 4Chan.

The arguments between OP's friend and her boyfriend are probably hilarious.

>>41742948
Because radical feminism and tradcuckery are illiberal ideas so they're often communists, fascists or some kind of adjacent idea that goes in those direction

>>41742948
Badly want an ex-FTM tradwife (but pre top surgery pls kthx)

>>41746208
Hey, if it works for jeeps...

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>>41742948
A bunch of cope in this thread. There's a pretty logical progression once you get to that point, particularly if you're a foid and more prone to social contagions like trannyism

>>41751901
>trannyism
>social contagion
>not even 1% of US adults
Y'all should all be trans by now??? Or are you hermit hikkis?

>>41744159
>go from a 3 to a 7
It's more like from a 1 to a 7 realistically, if you're 4'11" as a man that's the equivalent of a woman like, being severely deformed, or having Down's Syndrome. You'll get nothing but desperate, barrel-scraping ass bitches.

>>41746439
>had unimpressive results on T, literally looked like a boyish girl larping. I think everyone assumes all FTMs will pass well but some don't.
Hondosing is the only form of homeopathy endorsed by serious and respectable medical practitioners.

>>41751938
Not everyone is susceptible to it, that's not social contagions work
>not even 1% of US adults
It should be a percent of a percent of a percent of a percent. That shouldn't even be close to the number. This proves my point even more

>>41748930
>I did and now I am a pooner.
Grim × truke × L × RIP

>>41751938
>how can you call anorexia a social contagion when barely anyone is a spooky scary skellington?!
>not even the majority of teenage girls have it!!!!
brain power so low it was previously thought unsurvivable
anon out here falsifying established science

>>41742948
Because those patterns of thought are antagonistic towards their former failed state.

>>41752129
Neither gender wants to date a 4'11" man plus if you're a gay or bi transmanlet, 99% of decent quality cis men won't want anything to do with you. Even if you haven't been on T, most men will see you as damaged until you drop the pronouns

>>41752670
This is basically the answer, plus a lot of them work through their internalized homophobia (thereby becoming lesbian terfs) or their internalized misogyny (thereby making them feel okay embracing feminine roles aka tradwifery).

>>41753986
Right, my point exactly, being a 4'11" poonah is Just Fuck My Shit Up Fampai tier whether you're into men or women, it's not "oh no I'm below average".

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>>41742948
Very simple, being a women has more social benefits and out weighs any desire they have to be perceived as male.
If they were more honest with this and stop hating trans people that go against there rules then I would have no problem with them doing this

>>41758284
kek, why every feminine/short man wouldnt transition then

>>41758440
Because you only get the benefits from actually being a woman.

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>>41758440
It depends on how much aversion they have to looking like a women if they have the ability to many would

>>41758511
No, if you are a attractive trans women you gain similar benefits to cis women many men love trans women you have selection

>>41758511
do people see your chromosomes in day to day life or what are these benefits