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Is there a discord, irc, or whatever else server for "older" (30-40) trannies who have been transitioning for a long time? I wish I had trannies to talk to but everyone is either too young or a john50.
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>>41885180
Idk but i would *maybe* join
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>>41885180
you mean they transitioned in their early 20s and now they are in their late 30s, or do you mean they started at 35 and are taking 5 years to fully make the transition happen?
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>>41885180
does being on hrt whole time but putting in no effort after the first year onwards count?
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>>41885228
I mean people like me, who are around 30 or older and have been transitioning for 10+ years. I guess 5+ years of transition would be okay too as long as they started in their 20s.
>>41885283
Kind of, I guess. The only issue is that such a person might not be able to relate to the experiences of someone who socially transitioned too. I had conversations with people like that and it was kinda like talking to someone who just started transitioning except they were more knowledgeable about HRT.
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>>41885332
10+ years would be a bit extreme when mid to late 20s is the normal start time outside diy discord groomed nerds. theyd have to wait till 40 to qualify. that would just be expecting people to match your 20s experiences despite being 30s now.
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>>41885416
>mid to late 20s is the normal start time
Maybe on reddit. Not starting HRT when you're still a minor is somewhat understandable since your parents might make it difficult for you, but as soon as you're out of your parents control what is stopping someone from starting HRT?
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>>41885453
being from the generation that is over 30 in sheltered religious family and pre discord so didnt know hrt existed until 20s then went through the legal track that takes years since customs seizing diy.
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>>41885472
Okay, but there are tons of places with people who started transitioning late. Why is a space for people who have been transitioning for longer an issue?
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>>41885517
why is being on hrt for 7 years and starting in mid 20s not good enough for you? its not that many years difference.
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>>41885530
only difference is i had to fight harder than you to transition only to be seen as lesser.
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>>41885332
didnt you socially transition before hrt? thats what you were meant to do.
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>>41885530
I literally said I guess it's fine if someone has been transitioning for 5+ years as long as they started in their 20s >>41885332
But this sort of fragility is why I usually don't like people who started later. Why is it so upsetting to you when I want to find people who share my experience?
>>41885544
>i had to fight harder than you
You don't know that, but okay.
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>>41885610
your experience is getting hrt easily. mine is socially transitioning 6 years before hrt. but your attitude is people arent a real tranny unless they get meds as soon as possible.
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>>41885610
the fragility is from starting as a teen only to be shut out of everything then see you basing everything around hrt.
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>>41885620
>your experience is getting hrt easily
Again, you don't know that.
>but your attitude is people arent a real tranny unless they get meds as soon as possible.
Never said they aren't really trans. I only said they're insufferable. And you're proving my point right now.
Please have some confidence and don't immediately feel personally attacked because of something someone on the internet said. You're 30+ and this is teenage behaviour.
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>>41885643
and yes i started social transition without knowing hrt existed.
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>>41885653
not teen behaviour just british tranny behaviour.
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>>41885654
Same, so do you want a trophy for that now? Unfortunately I don't have one myself otherwise we could share.
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Just visit a local daycare. You'll find them hanging around the bathrooms.
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>>41885663
if the trophy were made of risperidone.
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>>41885679
in your local playground slide
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>>41885661
Why are British trannies like this?
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>>41885882
NHS. always NHS. 50 years on hrt i will still be like this.
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>>41885544
It's kinda sad you say shit like this at your age still. I don't think I'd like to join your discord ngl. Grow up.
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>>41885930
there was no discord. im not even trans.
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>>41885930
That wasn't OP, that was the same person that post is replying to.
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finding millenials who didn't repress is hard good luck
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>>41885970
>>41885983
Kinda confused ngl lol


Anyway I started at 22, was only able to when I left my country at 21, took a year to decide if it was the right choice though idk self therapy. Am now 30, kinda sucks hearing luckier ppl tell me my being less privileged and having to literally flee my family somehow makes me less "valid"
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>>41885180
in everything i've seen both online and in person the "trans community" is overwhelmingly made up of people who transitioned in the past 5 years tops. recent transitioners, regardless of age. i'm not really sure why that is. maybe it's just the massive uptick in awareness surrounding trans people recently and online visibility, or maybe the majority of people who get that far into their transition just end up deciding that the "community" is not for them. i don't know. all i know is that i've met dozens of trans people in my local "community" and never once one who started transitioning more than 4 years ago.

t. recent transitioner
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>>41886011
This is 4chan. HRT start date is the only thing that counts. Should have whored yourself out to start earlier.
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>>41886026
and I find a lot of those recent transitoners are boring anyways no soul gem inside their body
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>>41886011
Who said it makes you less valid though?
>>41886026
Yeah this has been my experience too and I just don't fit in with most of these people. So as you said, most "older" people probably stay away from there for that reason.
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>>41886047
There is no queer community where I'm from. Where would I even get HRT if I even knew it was a thing. I have literally never met a single trans person in my home city.
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>>41886062
look ur a lateshit so u gotta get used to it your in the chomo category like me
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>>41886058
Why even make a difference between us then lol idk.
I'm not part of any tranny community cuz they're toxic and full of predators and passing trannies are prey to them.
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>>41886054
i am sorry about the absence of my soul gem </3
>>41886058
even as someone who just started 2 years ago, i feel like i'm already becoming disillusioned...
not with trans people. just with the "community". idk my experiences just generally haven't been all that positive. maybe it's me maybe i have internalized transphobia or something idk.
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>>41886073
I started at 22 I'm not a lateshit I'm a midshit at most lol + I pass so why does it matter
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>>41886078
Old troons dont have youthful girl lust experiences to share. Doesn't get me off the same way. I need the hons segregated out.
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>OP wants to find similar people because they don't fit in with people who haven't lived as women
>thread is full of late transitioners whining about being discriminated against by OP
Hons invading female spaces again. This is basically what happens on reddit with all the lesbian spaces too. Grim.
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>>41886109
I don't care about your chaser bs + if you've been here for a bit of time you've probably jerked off to me.
Shit I've been told I'd "make the perfect shota" years ago lmao
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>>41886121
>years ago
run through at this point then
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>>41886116
>transition at 19: woman
>transition at 20: hon
Makes total sense
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>>41886126
stop being retarded on purpose, it's not funny
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>>41886124
I literally look younger now. + this is a thread about 30yo+ trannies retard kys
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>>41886126
its more
>transition at 20-24: twinkhon
>transition at 26-30: rapehon
>transition at 30+: gigarapehon ropefuel john50
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>>41886156
Idk transitioned at 22 ended up a passoid
Not yt though
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why can't you reppers just make your own fucking thread instead of shitting up this one. but I guess you need a mommy to change your diapers, right? just like you didn't have any agency to get yourself on HRT too. you always want women to spoon-feed you, peak male behavior
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>>41886183
pwease change mine mommy :3
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Someone please kill me.
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>>41886236
wow i'd say its over at this point
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>>41886171
Core college years of 18-22 lost to moid socialization. If you started 2 years earlier you might have been socially acceptable as an older trans woman later.
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>>41886264
I was in college from 22 to 24 or sth AND im going back to college next year lol dor another master's
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>>41886054
What do you mean by this, the vast majority of other trans women I meet are massive cunts to everyone around them.
How can I avoid this fate?
-recent t.
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>>41886285
>another masters
You're rich, you can be anything you want baby.
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>>41886312
Nah I'm just euro lol I'm a loser so I both look and act way younger than I am
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>>41886320
Can get away with so much histrionics that way. Gotta love it.
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This thread made me despise reppers even more. They're just like men.
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>>41886026
The trans community is shit and bloated with negativity. Full of asshats demanding sex, makeup lessons, medical advice, gfs, and lots and lots of mental illness. I have been botched by the "top" surgeon universally recommended by this awful group of freaks. It turned out he was a gaslighting dickhead. Should have known better than to take advice from idiots parroting each other's delusions. When you are further in medical and social transition, you naturally distance yourself from the babytrans in it.
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>>41886294
I'm not a massive cunt but you have to have a pure heart sadly if you do not you might just be a massive cunt forever sorry.
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>>41886336
My BPD is way better now actually. Well if its even BPD psych said it was CPTSD actually or I read up on OSDD and that looks like it even more idk anyway I'm less crazy than I used to so that's nice
Still my partner is infinitely tolerant of my bs lol
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just do it.
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>>41886355
Even more importantly for younger trannies, stay tf away from ppl who have transitioned for a while and stay in thise communities.
Ask how I got raped kek
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>>41886365
Suicide?
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>>41886361
Glad youre doing better and better nona.
>>41886350
Who is repping in thread?
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>>41886370
transition
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>>41886382
I already did. A long time ago.
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>>41886375
Thx!! I've been trying so hard lately quit weed a few months ago and never touching that shit again. Used it for chronic pain but it cost me years of my life...
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>>41886385
then stay the course
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>>41885453
>as you're out of your parents control what is stopping someone from starting HRT?
Im 38. Online trans spaces were a dumpster fire back then and docs required you crossdress for a year before they gave you a hondose.
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>>41886387
Big achievement tbqh. Always thought could fall back on it for pain, but the pain would have to be a lot to justify the brain effects.
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>>41886414
Depending on the system you could cheat the 1 year crossdressing part though. But I guess you have to be a bit lucky for that. And hondose is still better than not taking any HRT and repping.
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>>41886416
I was a daily user. It's hard to notice yourself ramp up + I was doing it in healthy ways, vaping and mostly edibles. I used to wake, take an edible (my partner made me weed crepes or weed waffles lol shit was kinda fire), and as soon as I felt it going down take another.
I mean shit didn't even make me feel good in the end I was so anxious but I felt my anxiety was mine and weed was helping...
I'm not that anxious naturally turns out, well I still am but I'm more dissociated than anything
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>>41886414
You were meant to find resources on onion sites as a 15 year old right as tor network launched instead of Susans.
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>>41885332
What if collectively it’s been a total of 7 years, with 2 years about a decade ago and the past current 5 and on going
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>>41886450
>you had to be infinitely male brained to transition
I started diying buying hormones on QHI I think it was? Some British online pharmacy without prescription while it was still in EU lol. Funny how things changed
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>>41886461
Why did you stop after 2 years?
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>>41886461
You bring male fragility with the insecurity you show here anon.
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>>41886462
All the non sexworker transitioners starting in 18-22 range in past were effeminate stem autists. It has been that way since the 60s.
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>>41886482
I was extremely depressed and tried killing myself, I dropped out of school had nothing and was drinking super heavy so I wanted to end it, unfortunately I was in a state that also had strict transitioning guidelines at that time so once I tried and failed I just felt discouraged, that I should accept it and suffer
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>>41886497
I’m an incredibly insecure individual
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>>41886712
You don't share my experience or OP's. There should be a hangout that only allows secure mentally stable trutrans women. You can continue getting ptp at the young age leaning events.
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>>41886748
I don’t go to any events I’ve been living full time for those five years, not really skipping a beat. I would say I’m more stable now than I was in my younger years, I work in cosmetics and just go home, not really anything else, it’s hard to escape poverty and isolation
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>>41886802
Being serious this time, you are unironically too good for this place. I really hope you get many actual good friends in person. If no partner hope you get one of those too nona.
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>>41886693
I'm really sorry you went through that. I think if bad things happen to you that prevent you from transitioning it's a different thing than repping. One thing that bothers me a lot about reppers and baby trans is that they usually live a fairly comfortable life and can't relate to what it's like to actually struggle. John 50 might be a valid trans woman, but he probably has a stable job and a family, unlike lots of trannies who started transitioning earlier and had to face discrimination.
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>>41886830
I see baby trans ending up in homeless shelters and talking about survival sex work they had to do. I do not envy their lives. I envy the John 50 though.
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>>41886894
I guess it depends on the baby trans, but almost all I've met have been 20 something stem people with a good job or studying at a university. Maybe it's just my city though, I can't find anyone like that here.
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>>41886894
If I met a babytrans who had to deal with homelessness too I would probably get along with them a lot better. It's the privileged ones that I don't relate to at all.
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>>41886935
wait till they finish college and cant find a job with their degree because troon. they will suffer.
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>>41886894
>>41886994
all tech trannies with jobs (i.e. John 50s) should be required to financially support at least one other tranny tbhon
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>>41887195
started too young to get a tech career and too old to fit in. tfw no john 50 gf.
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>>41887220
i actually dated someone like that once but she was extremely bad with money and also didn't want to pay for anything. john 50s deserve all the hate they get.
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>>41887279
All the John 50s I've ever met were blue collar and had no job or money after the divorce and discriminatory firing for being a troon. Young baby trans tier outcome but they had a life before it happened still.
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>>41885180
most of the 30+ trannies i know online/irl (incl myself) have been transitioning for ~5 or so years.
i know one tranner whos been transitioning for 15ish yrs. my gf transitioned 12 yrs ago. theyre not rly on tranny discords tho.
maybe there are some, like, mtfg oldfag servers or something.
youre probably better off looking on fb or something
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I know enough of trannies to stay away from them
t. mtf
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>>41885180
There sorta is but no one is active.
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>>41887347
>fb
The people I'd find on facebook aren't the type of people I'd want to talk to.
>theyre not rly on tranny discords
Neither am I because I can't stand any of them. It's kind of why I'd like one with older people.
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>>41885180
what is your discord anyway? I fit your criteria as I am almost 30
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>>41887431
10+ years hrt, not insecure or fragile, not mentally ill?
>>41887347
facebook would be too easy since we are all there.
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>>41887451
>10+ years hrt, not insecure or fragile, not mentally ill?
not to my knowledge well I am a bit anxious but eh
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>>41887451
Damn OP really hit a nerve with you didn't she? Not beating the insecurity allegations.
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>>41887451
hey i gotta go I'm >>41887431
>>41887463
I'll add you in the morning if you decide to post your discord
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>>41887396
This desu.
>>41887408
So basically you're looking for adults (people over 30) but you're afraid of boomerhons? Is that what I'm getting?
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>>41887431
>>41887517
mine is halogen3687
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or you could email me it I guess. feel free to share your discord if you are a more experienced mtf
arandommtf@proton.me
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>>41887551
bold request for trans MILFs there nona.
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>>41887541
sent gtg
>>41887551
see this if you want to send it afterwards
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>>41887561
I am a mtf and 10 years + hrt anon

I just want to speak to others like me
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>>41887540
>So basically you're looking for adults (people over 30) but you're afraid of boomerhons? Is that what I'm getting?
More or less, yeah.
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>>41887396
I know enough of troons to larp as them and pit them against each other. It's so easy as they're all psycho already.
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Hello OP. I'm 33 and started hrt at 19. I think I know what you are feeling like, I kind of gave up on talking to other trans people. I almost never come back to this website
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>>41887621
I guess I do and don't meet your description. 40yo, ~5yr HRT, pass by extreme luck + failing puberty, stealth at work except with my direct manager who I gave a heads up in case I move to escape the shithole state I live in.
I can drop a discord if you want. Or not. No hard feelings.
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>>41887827
what made you wait 35 years to transition?
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>>41887915
you couldnt even be gay in many places until 10 years ago, how is it surprising someone would rep?
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i trooned out after I got out of prison but i just have old friends from before they are troons
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>>41887941
my parents were nazis and I still transitioned, so what. transitioning was necessary because otherwise I would have just killed myself
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>>41887915
Poor understanding of what transition actually meant (surgemaxxing vs. hormones doing stuff), belief I didn't have the social skills to pull it off, delusions about the extent I masculinized, and even when I started working through some of that I was also speedrunning alcoholism and became technically homeless for a while before bouncing back and getting a good job again.
>>41887941
Yeah also that.
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i had my depo shot today and i wanna scream so bad
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>>41888002
That was a big part for me. I spent my 20s saving up for surgery not knowing hrt did much other than slightly smoother skin and small boobs. So just waited then went to Mexico. Then join communities only to find out everyone measures your legitimacy from hrt start dates.
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>>41888052
it's not just about the hrt start date itself though, i feel like you're misunderstanding that. usually when someone hasnt been on hrt it means they havent really started transitioning and havent really lived as a tranny. the same could be said for people who are on hrt for 10+ years but are still manmoding, those people are basically reppers too
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I transitioned at 25, am now 33. Do I count?
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>>41888085
Funny story I was at risk of that due to general lack of confidence but I started male-failing HARD by 10 months in and kind of had no choice but to live as a woman.
>>41888052
Sorry to hear that. Hope you're at least doing well now!
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>>41888085
Why would I know your definition? This is just my experience.
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>>41888146
Thanks. I'm doing very well. After a few years the trans stuff falls into the background of life once get past the main hurdles.
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>>41888138
maybe, it depends
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>>41888239
Depends on what?
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why is everyone here competing to be called #valid?
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>>41888262
You'll receive a link for your trutrans zoom interview tomorrow in your primary email inbox. If you pass, you will enter the second round.
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>>41888288
Have you met trannies?
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>>41888288
The whole point of this board is battle royale for most valid title.
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>>41888181
Indeed. I kinda fucked that up by doing an activism but yeah at some point you just kind of exist, but transitioned.
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>>41888359
Assuming you mean trans activism, I appreciate your sacrifices. I haven't done anything for anyone.
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>>41888386
>I haven't done anything for anyone.
Average repper.
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>>41888402
I fully transitioned years go, but okay.
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>>41888418
You were repping before you transitioned though, right?
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>>41888386
Heh thanks. And yeah. I consider it self preservation really.
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>>41888423
Only on paper and hormonally. Socially would have killed myself if had to keep up full malemoding.
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>>41887220
Silly midshit, you're supposed to troon at 5 and get your parents to pay for everything, or at 45 with all the money you got from a male-passing paycheck and the emotional support of your wife and 3 kids (she pressured you into the last two because your dysphoria-induced panic attacks from the first pregnancy weren't enough for her) but you still get to be 5 years ahead of John 50!
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>>41888755
>oh no my evil wife pressured me into having heterosexual sex with her and making her pregnant all without considering how I would feel when she is in extreme amounts of pain during the birth of our children
this is why no one likes you
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>>41888755
wasted my youth being a she/her femboy with masc boyfriend instead of baby trapping a desperate cis woman to lay down my future safetynet.
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>>41887541
am not op but I’m also a 30+ tranny on HRT 10+ years looking for friends with identical experience. I sent a request to this disc handle here, but if there are others in this thread, please reply with any contact so we can maybe connect.
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>>41886825
>if no partner hope you get one of those too nona
One day :’}
>>41886830
I can def say my life has been far from comfortable
>but life gets better working towards it being better
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>>41889016
Why not post yours?
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>>41889103
its a larp "identical experience"
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>>41889124
What exactly does that mean?
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>>41889131
be friends with yourself.
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>>41889139
Rude.
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>>41889103
I just get uncomfortable having my contact up on a board that’s constantly raided. I’d use a burner but I kinda reached a limit :/

If there’s another form of contact I can make, I’ll look into it.
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>>41889246
A limit? How many people do you go through?
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>>41889303
I think it was about a handful (5?) over the past year and half. I’d just make an account then not bother to save the pw. Was when I did online dating for a stint and didn’t want to be stalked by psychos.
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>>41889358
so you didn't make any friends with any of them? kind of a red flag tbhon nglngl
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>>41889397
The ones for dating? I don’t think I want to keep contact with cis guys that revealed creepy behavior a week in lol. I did and still keep contact with two trans girls and they’ve been fun both chatting and hanging out with.

I’d just also like to find or help contribute to maybe a trans community involving like minded experiences as posted by the OP though, instead of where nearly every trans group is just trans people early in their transition and the initial internal strife that comes with that. I have 0 interest in polycues so that’s probably my red flag.
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>>41889447
>cis guys that revealed creepy behavior a week in
>I have 0 interest in polycues
sorry, I assumed you're a transbian. understandable that you wouldn't want to be friends with chasoids
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I'm a tranner who's been on hrt for 11 years this year, I started when I was 17 so you can guess how old I am.

It's an extremely alienating experience, and honestly all transitioning at 17 back then did is lead me toward an adult life filled with trauma, so I'm only now starting to have a career and being paid like shit.

I feel like people act like earlier is automatically easier, but having a university degree and some job experience under your belt before hrt does actually give you a good head-start.
I struggled to work a regular job until my most recent one personally, I'd work 1-3 jobs a year, I'd always burn out and have to quit or be fired.

I definitely understand why OP would want to have friends who transitioned during a similar period of time and recognise that it's not always a good thing per say, it's not like we transitioned at 12.

You either end up a broken functional drug addict who can at least hold a job by now like me, or someone who's had to become a narcissist to survive often, I'm sure there's plenty more outcomes, all just as alienating.
Here's an email I guess, you may have already met me for all I know, these threads rarely go anywhere.
tiredtranner at pm dot me
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>>41889575
I wont contact since im the saved for surgery first femboymoder, but I wanted to let you know that I recognize your struggle. It's fucked up what society put you through, and I can see how me being retarded may have spared me some of the struggle you went through.
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>>41889575
I will say, mentally I'm relatively stable and chill to talk to, I'm not BPD or anything, nor am I someone who's ever suicidal, I just get depressed cyclically, and a bit manic sometimes at most.

I might have Cyclothymia or something at worst these days, therapy and meds generally did their job, and I'm working on kicking the drugs, so I guess don't let what I've said scare you off, I'm also not looking for relationships, I'm content being single.
It'd just be nice to have more friends who /get it/.
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>>41885180
I mean I started transitioning at 26 and I'm 32 now (I wish I transitioned sooner but fml)
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Thread mirroring male-attracted sapphic exclusionary lesbians discourse. Woman in lesbian relationship that has some attraction to men is just too alien for a true lesbian.
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>>41889779
a lesbian in a relationship with a woman is going to have a very very different experience from a sapphic woman in a relationship with a man. how is that controversial?
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>>41889812
A sapphic woman in a relationship with a woman was seen as controversial to have in a lesbian only space. Not with men.
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>Is there a discord, irc, or whatever else server for "older" (30-40) trannies who have been transitioning for a long time?
No
You exist in a limbo state of being too cis for trans people and too trans for cis people. Repressing was infinitely more common in the 00s and early 10s than trooning out, especially at a reasonably young age. And honestly, I think there are more well adjusted Gen Z trannies than Millenial trannies. Every time I've met another trans woman who has been transitioned as long as I have, they've got some really weird personality quirks.
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>>41889972
You had to be more messed up to go through the GID diagnosis than rep back then. If you weren't the abuse from being trans then made you mentally ill.
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>>41889972
Yeahh, there's always something that makes it difficult for us to relate to both cis people and other trans people, it's an eternal limbo that we are trapped in, and I'm unsure if it's possible to escape it, barring getting lucky and finding emotionally mature, loyal friends that you can actually relate to, which is incredibly rare, or ideally a relationship with those characteristics.

I feel like transitioning for this long has broken me in some ways, even if I feel I lack a lot of the insecurities most trans women seem to have, and well, on top of that's let's just say the people who transitioned over the pandemic are... A different breed.
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>>41890002
DIY existed back then, though it was a lot worse. Though yeah the formal diagnosis doctors were all absolutely insane, like they all belong in jail.
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>>41890021
>people who transitioned over the pandemic are... A different breed.
this is why you deserve to be lonely and isolated. most 30+ year transitioners don't act like this.
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>>41890067
Most are insanely judgemental, what are you talking about?
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>>41890079
years transition not years old. they were never weird towards me for being able to start young.
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>>41890067
I'm still friends with many of them, it just often (not always) feels like I'm talking to someone considerably younger than me, even if they're chronologically older than me, they just, at least when it comes to places where our rights aren't going down the shitter in real-time, feel like they're living in a bubble, but they're also so ready to attack others over small perceived slights.

They're also always being assholes to me and every time I express wanting FFS or any other surgery, they bring up that I'm short, or that I'm already so lucky, as if puberty didn't exist if you transition as a late teenager and are short.
Typically (again, not always) the older ones that transitioned over the pandemic are ESPECIALLY like this, and I swear every bad optics nuke stereotype is worse in the pandemic transitioned groups because they got to transition in a sheltered, safe discord bubble, where they rarely had to go outside and the government here paid them to be NEETs.

It's like they skipped the part of transition where you're supposed to learn the most, and something is missing (again, not literally every time, but often).
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>>41890118
To me its not pandemic transitioners, its just the ones that got hrt fully funded through informed consent on their first appointment, starting weeks from first realizing they might be trans. They seem to have not thought it through at all. That just aligns with the pandemic where that access expanded rapidly. I'm old enough to remember how bad the optics were before, media just fixated less on it than now so it's hard for me to blame them much.
By 16-18 puberty is done and you're screwed. Is it just poverty cope packaged as envy over transition age?
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>>41890118
See I transitioned during the pandemic, but in a place where our rights are going down the shitter in real-time,
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>>41889972
>Every time I've met another trans woman who has been transitioned as long as I have, they've got some really weird personality quirks.
I wonder what kind of personality quirks?
t. oldfag with quirks
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34, came out in 2005, physical transition 2009. I'm not aware of one but I'm sure there is somewhere.

>>41890343
I see some of this too but I think it's largely just from the particular way things used to be bad and the trauma resulting from it
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>>41885180
Things are grim.
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>>41890557
Is this from the 4tran subreddit? If so it's no surprise most of them are children and mostly trans "men"
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>>41890557
honestly would be pretty embarrassing if anyone 30+ went on 4tran
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>>41885453
back in the 2000s hrt and transitioning wasn't common knowledge. sex education didn't even cover lgb topics. being openly gay wasn't even common.
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>>41890754
Always feels like people are larping here as being older but transitioned younger here since none of them seem to know what it was like back then. They all talk like they transitioned during the pandemic then backdated things to look cool.
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>>41890763
So true bestie!! HRT was invented in 2020, before that transitioning was simply not possible and everyone was slurping xenoestrogens from BPA bottles. Anyone who says they managed to transition before that is fake and obviously a fed!! All you fake people don't know how hard it was for trannies back when trannies didn't exist!
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>>41890797
It wasn't that hard. Its just people talk about it like it was telling a nurse you want boobs and starting same day like it is now.
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>tfw 12 years of hrt
>11 years post op
Iktf op
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>>41890811
Why do those numbers seem like they change every time you post times.
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>>41890806
I think you're projecting your feelings about pandemic hons (which I agree with you don't know what it's like) on the people in this thread
>>41890818
He's 54, the dementia is kicking in
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>>41890818
Because it depends on how accurate and what hrt you want to count
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>>41885180
Is anyone going to make the server? I don't wanna be the one to be corralling cats.
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>>41890826
I dont even know which direction anyone is arguing anything. I think pandemic hons are valid and there is no need to pretend it was easy to get hrt 15 years ago.
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>>41890840
Don't worry, soon someone extremely narcissistic is going to come along and make one. Those are the only types who want to be mods and admins.
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>>41890763
idk why theres any shame in that. I can see how the pandemic gave people time to reflect and spend far more time online, it makes sense that it was a period of so many people coming out. anyways it's neat to see so many people on here that are old like me, I've only talked to a few others from here that transitioned 10+ years ago.
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>>41890850
Good. I don't want to wait too long.

We also need the BPD fat woman who everyone loves because she uses an anime pfp but the moment she posts face no-one tolerates her anymore, the youngshit below the minimum age requirement who suspiciously never gets kicked by admin, the suicide baiter, the esoteric jibberish speaker, a handful of asslicker mods who will fuck the admin, and the drug addict going through weed psychosis.
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>>41890885
poisoning the well already ;_;
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>>41890877
It was so grim back in 2013 when I first came to this board. I left after a few months to save up from job instead and live life. Is just weird returning and its all blanchard shit and the same competition over whats real trans.
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>>41890912
tag yourself, im the esoteric jibberish speaker
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>>41890935
yea I'm past my schizo era, I'll be the weed psychosis one
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>>41890797
And yet I made it anyway.
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>>41890920
I was on /cd/, there wasn't any if that. sure there was some self loathing and people talking about sh but it wasn't depressing like this place. too much hopelessness.
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>>41891011
i was here as in /lgbt/, in late 2013. was more cis bi/gay back then. i just remember looking into trans threads and was depressing RLE stories and GID shit.
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>/cd/
>420chan
Man, the memberberries
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>>41885180
I mean what would you even do at such a discord? I technically dont qualify because I never fully socially transitioned, but at our age, I feel most people dont just hang out for the sake of it.
But ofc theres noting wrong with building a community around whatever arbitrary rules you can agree on.
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>>41891026
wish found 420chan /cd/ first but this shit hole just opened while looking so landed here instead.
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>>41891056
This is a choice older people make and it sucks. You deserve friends. Make space for them.
If you want them, of course.
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>>41891062
I wish /b/ wasn't the first site on the internet ever I was shown
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>>41891130
I wish /pol/ wasnt how i found out i could transition.
>>41891123
I make space for friends, but new people carefully craft their requirements so I narrowly miss out, or just stop replying after seeming super interested.
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>>41891137
Fair enough.
They're few and far between but I try to find opportunities to meet people in real life. I've made a few really good post-late-transition friends that way, and it's how I'm playing dating too.
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>>41891137
>/pol/
oof
At least I learned about srs via a random documentary on a trans woman at like 3 am on tv
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>>41891155
they posted a video of srs to show how disgusting and i was just like wait you can do that? i need this. before that just thought cut cock n balls off and got fucked in ass.
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>>41891155
>>41891166
>/pol/
See my intro to trans people was Jerry Springer.
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>>41891190
My pol experience is basically how all the trannies now are finding out. Everyone's conservative parents ranting about trannies grooming kids with hrt, so the kids go wait i need this, then buy vials of lolicon packaged estrogen from ecuadorian speedrunning forums
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>>41889575
Transitioned at the same time as you and same length. I don't agree with you at all lmao.

Was able to graduate from my bachelors on time (slightly early than my cis peers), got into a top company in my field and now building my own company.

If I transitioned later, everything in my life would've just happened later. Sure it sucks like shit and i'm still in therapy to this day, but otherwise I can't see how that could possibly make my life better by transitioning later.
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This site really is self harm ._.
Can't I just be non-passing?
I don't even rep just stealth
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>>41891166
>seeing srs as being a thing
Frfr, it was such a big moment when I realized "fuck I could be fixed"
>>41891190
ouch
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>>41885180
I am very old but iunno what all this nerd stuff is supposed to be ngl
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>>41891300
Its just OP demanding people do everything for her, while also being unable to contain her seething disgust towards nonpassers and pandemic transitioners because shes just a bad person. Most people would understand that you can only do so much to pass.
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>>41891449
Who said anything about passing? OP really got you guys good.
Seriously though at some point you have to learn to live with it, you're going to be an insufferable person if you make this your personality.
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>>41891458
Dont know, didnt read the original post just saw the sad reply.
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>>41891152
>They're few and far between but I try to find opportunities to meet people in real life. I've made a few really good post-late-transition friends that way, and it's how I'm playing dating too.
Can you give some examples of how you met people irl? I'm struggling with that.
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OP is based and lateshit hons can seethe. It's so tiring as a millennial tgirl who has been transitioned for 10+ years to only meet either zoomer trannies who transitioned in lockdown or millenial lateshits.
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where can i find a community of nothing but terminal hrtreppers who have been hrtrepping for like 10 years
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>>41891631
Why would you want to meet people who don't possess a spine?
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>>41891658
>dont possess a spine
id argue thats like half this board minimum tbhon but either way, to meet likeminded ppl of course
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>>41891449
hrt reppers of post-pandemic late-stage culture wars big-umbrella gender nonconforming transitioners or hrpplscwbugnt for short mhm
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>>41891681
>hrpplscwbugnt
really rolls off the tongue naturally
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>>41891690
it's an art form, and anyone that uses the acronym should donate to my patreon to support the community ngl
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>>41891703
what do i get for donating tho
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>>41891712
umm, some blog posts, and maybe I will give u previews of the flag I'm designing???
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>>41891721
hmmm i dunno about donating for blogposts chief....
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I transitioned at 22 in 2007. I don’t hang out with other trannies though. Never have. It’s just easier to blend in when you’re completely disconnected from queer communities. I come to places like this to gawk mostly. Basically reinforcing my belief that surrounding yourself with normies is good for your mental health.
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>>41891758
>4chan is le bad for mental health
who would of thought!!
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>>41891733
pls let an ageing millennial grift a lil as a treat...
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>>41891758
Normies are better for mental health until Donald McTucker tells them that trannies are demons that need to be eradicated. Then they backstab you and you're left with nothing.
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>>41891878
I would read your blog, where can I subscribe?
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>>41891878
*loud buzzer noise* sorry sweaty but im broke so no
maybe you can anonymously grift some rightoids, it cant be that hard just make like shitty boomer ai slop for patriots
what are you blog posts even about anyways
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>>41891761
Well my advice to OP and anyone with the same idea, ‘oh I should make friends with people with shared experiences’ is NO, you should not do that. The trans condition fills your whole allowance of idiosyncrasies.
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>>41891935
anyone asking for advice/connection on 4chan will not be able to action of the advice of "erm just dont go to 4chan and be normal and make normie friends"
aint gonna happen sweaty, sorry
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>>41885180

Since there’s interest but no one is initiating, I’m making a disc. I’d prefer IRC (or Matrix) but I don’t have the means to consistently host a server without interruption. Let me know if the link expires.

uc2E7HHU
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>>41891026
shout out to kayla still shitting up the boards, do you have that i'm depressed /cd/ meme
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>>41892045
thanks nana
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>look in thread for oldshit trannies hoping for more millennial frens
>its just jeeps
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>>41892145
I'm an old straight mtf, but I don't want to be your friend.
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>>41892165
neat
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>>41892145
Wow anon, can you tell me how to identify AGPs just from one or two sentences? Are you using some kind of AI tool that was trained on 1billion texts from AGPs?
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>>41892174
concentrated insecurity projected as anger
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>>41892186
You would get along with OP then.
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>>41892193
i dont even mean to be mean, i just hate dealing with additional mean girl bullshit when theres plenty enough dire bs as is. its also not something i can really identify with seeing as the circles i ran in were always on the more chill side pre-transition.

im in my early 30s, married, only a few years into HRT, but the whole having lived as a gay male for so long, not being in my 20s, and actually having a relationship really does a lot to put me outside of most tranny circles. its also getting more rare to bump into millennial trannies now, and millennial gays are getting increasingly deranged with the way politics is dragging people to extremes.
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>>41892036
Lmao
I recall a timeline of how many times she got srs or ba
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>>41892186
Hsts can do that too, that's not just agps
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>>41885416
i started hrt in 2007.
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>>41892535
>i started hrt in 2007.
ain't no way, how old are you?
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>>41892535
Same. It was a great year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fllyJTBsRU
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>>41892518
i genuinely do not believe this
every hussy ive ever met has been chill as fuck
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>>41892540
36
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>>41892145
come on we're on 4chan, doesn't mean i'm not an oldshit tranny though
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>>41886026
It’s because transitioning is something you do, and then it’s over.
The only people that stick around any “community” are people that are stuck. Either they can’t pass and thus are never done, or can’t fully give up their sex and move on.
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>>41892563
i know i know its just >>41892216
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>>41892579
it's tough when you trans visibility forcibly outted you as a tranny so your whole local community knows. you can't go back in the closet. you can't be stealth when you're a recognizable in your community. so it's either move across the country to try to start over or endure.
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>>41892558
Can i add u
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>>41892677
You? No.
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>>41892728
why not?
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Based millennial stacies refusing to socialize with internet people.
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>>41892677
i don't use discord. that's for diddlers.
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>>41892788
>i don't use discord. that's for diddlers.
diddlers? well I never said discord in the first place
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>>41892777
if shes here i highly doubt shes a """stacy""", most early 4chan trannies were really quite fucked irl and while i know a few who moved away and got their shit together most remain broken people whove sorta cobbled together a life on the margins.
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>>41892814
You're killing the vibes with your jibber jabber.
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>>41892814
that's me
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>>41892814
>>41892814
thats a lie. only the strong survive.

the strong are the ones who are now millionaires with multi surgeries under their belt laughing at the weak trannies who can't climb out of their own shreds of life.
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>>41892833
the former or the latter type?

>>41892840
yeah i dunno whats going on in your life that leads you to need this power fantasy and i honestly dont care

>>41892827
ehh i dunno thread looks kinda bad as is. the last one was much better.
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>>41892857
>yeah i dunno whats going on in your life that leads you to need this power fantasy and i honestly dont care

you are a weakling, blown to the dust that people that are on top
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RIP to all the girls whose shift keys don't work.
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>>41892870
anon, do you need someone to tell you that its ok to be normal? its ok to just transition, have a boyfriend, live a life yknow. you dont need to try so hard.
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>>41892857
When was there a last one?
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>>41892894
>anon, do you need someone to tell you that its ok to be normal? its ok to just transition, have a boyfriend, live a life yknow. you dont need to try so hard.


That's just cope for weaklings. the ones who will survive are the ones at the top. The ones who aren't good enough will be disposed of.
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>>41891202
Damn this is art. Like everyone forgot about the Streisand effect.
>>41891465
The post-COVID era has seen a rise in "speed friending" events that may or may not be worthwhile if they exist near you. Otherwise some people still host gatherings centered around hobbies. I've also met new friends at events adjacent to trans political activism, so if you're into that sort of thing or even just want to hang out with "the gays" generally that's an option.
Trans support groups exist but unless you're a babytrans they're probably not helpful and my experience is extremely mixed on whether they're even pleasant places to be. I never had a mean girl phase so the weird cliquey bullshit just alienated me.
Church communities exist for people into that sort of thing. I got drug into one by a friend I met at another event and then met more people that way.

Just a few ideas.
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>>41885416
mid to late 20s (hell, early 20s) are discord groomed faketroons lmao
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>>41892898
a week or so ago there was a 40+ tranny thread and it was pretty cozy

>>41892907
yeah alright darl lemme know how that works out for you
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>>41892921
>yeah alright darl lemme know how that works out for you
ok i'll see you at your grave
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>>41892921
Well this thread was kinda ruined by insecure late transitioners. I guess the 40+ thread didn't attract as many hons desperate for external validation.
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>>41892932
oh wow how spiteful ill be sure to internalise that

>>41892935
ehh, go look for yourself. i dont remember anyone there having that issue either way, if anything it was mostly a chill older and younger millennial thread with the OP surprised at just how many fellow old posters were there. iirc we talked a lot about boards and stuff, life, interests and such. it was less tranny and more oldfag focused, so maybe theres the diff. maybe making it about being a tranny specifically is the thing that causes the retardation.
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>>41892967
>oh wow how spiteful ill be sure to internalise that
I'm just joking with you anon but I partially believe it. But at the same time I want to fuel some sexual tension between us.
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>>41892982
>But at the same time I want to fuel some sexual tension between us.
desu anon that line is flat dead. im pretty much mostly bearsexual.
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>>41892992
>desu anon that line is flat dead. im pretty much mostly bearsexual.
I thought you were a tranny. Or are you an old pooner?
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>>41885180
I'm in my 40s, transitioned 25 years ago, and would love to talk to other trannies in my situation.
OPs request is exactly what I've been hoping.
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>>41892999
im a tranny but im almost exclusively into bears.

>>41893016
hey oldfren, someone linked a server here >>41891968
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>>41893030
>im a tranny but im almost exclusively into bears.
but wouldn't that mean you a gay guy? Like I wouldn't necessarily say I am into twinks but maybe I'd say more feminine men or bigger guys if bears
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>>41893061
Maybe you're confused.
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>>41893061
i lived as a gay twink for a good while, and "bear" is very much the term that fits my tastes. also i dont fw straight dudes. straight acting dudes yeah but not actual straight dudes. been there, done that as a teen, never again. if it helps im pretty sure my taste in men was acquired watching rugby as a kid with my gran and her commenting on the big burly blokes legs, so i dont think its that gay coded of a desire.
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>>41893091
If you're post-transition you gotta stop thinking of yourself as a gay dude. Call the men you like husky or something.
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>>41892857
>the former or the latter type?
broken person sorta cobbling a life together
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>>41885180
I'm 32, transitioned 9 years ago.

Used to be in a lot of trans related chats/groups, but left all of them coz I cannot relate to the people there anymore and tired of giving same advises (voicetrain, clothes, makeup, hrt, surgeries etc) thousands of times over. And almost never seeing people actually making decent efforts to pass (and only complain about not passing).

I actually dunno what oldtimers could speak about to each other. I'm in stealth for 7 years now, and just live average boring fem life.
The only time I remember being trans is when my husband pounds me.
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my type is divorced dads. the type that kept the house, lost the kids.
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>>41893111
I agree as the original poster asking why they are call bears as the guys they like... and straight guys are fine.... >>41893091
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>>41893111
i know but it just doesnt cut it, and frankly i dont really vibe with straight people on a fundamental level. its kinda why i wanna hang around with other trannies desu, theres at least some level of knowing whats up and knowing what its like to be gay even if it is in the past tense.

>>41893116
my sympathies. is it going well for you at least?

>>41893128
this might sound strange but i honestly cant imagine wanting to fuck a man who wont be there for his kids. is there an emotional logic to it or is it kinda like wanting a hot dad type but without the baggage?

>>41893130
i dunno like, i look at my man and the way he thinks, acts, takes care of himself, etc, and i look at a straight dude and im just kinda repulsed. straight men feel way less manly than straight acting gay men to me because straight acting gay men practice self care.
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>>41893120
>I actually dunno what oldtimers could speak about to each other. I'm in stealth for 7 years now, and just live average boring fem life.
we could talk about life stuff like most other cis women talk about.

just that our transness make us bond slightly more
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>>41893164
it's a testament to his heterosexuality and an ego boost to bag one. i don't want kids. i'm too selfish.
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>>41893164
>my sympathies. is it going well for you at least?
could be worse i guess, just improving everything and moving on slower than most
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>>41893164
>is there an emotional logic to it or is it kinda like wanting a hot dad type but without the baggage?
she wants to replace the kids
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>>41893205
ye fair desu darl. i can kinda see the appeal of that.

>>41893214
one of those where it feels like nothing ever moves at the pace it should?
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>>41891908
I actually used to have a blog way back in the day, but I started to get stalkers from a certain board so I stopped before I really made a real income tbqh
>>41891909
well, I used to just post about the things I did and liked, and the things I was trying, but then I noticed that ppl responded more to the parasocial-ish type posts, but then got attention due to ppl looking for another girl, so I shut it down like 13-14 years ago or w/e
made less than $1000 for hundreds of hours tho...
>>41892145
awww, I'm sorry to hear that anon...
>>41892921
>>41892935
>>41892967
old ppl rise up!
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>>41892045
i learned that transitioning was an actual thing u could do on /cd/ back in 2010. i'd had thoughts abt wanting to be a girl for most of my childhood but still spent quite a lot of time there just browsing without rly thinking about why i was there until the realization hit
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Bomp
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I fit OPs description and was on /cd/ before /lgbt/ came out and was posting here the first few years. I was an imageboard using millenial during high school and started transition after high school ended. I just get the vibe that most other trans women in our situation would not like me. I don't even know what to talk about when I meet someone with SRS and a husband. I even got called male brained multiple times in the lesgen discord server which really shows how deep it goes but I can't pretend to be someone I'm not. Anyways most of my friends are straight cis guys, not even chasers just normal straight dudes with gfs.
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>>41892145
all millenial trannies are jeeps unless theyre from iran or pakistan.
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>>41896099
You could just try joining the discord server and find out if other trannies in your situation will like you.
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>>41896099
Me too fr. But not lesbian. If thread is anything to go by the discord is for midshit seethehons instead of normal trans people with lives though. I would avoid like plague and continue to shitpost.
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>>41896109
yeah no, thats stupid and youre stupid for thinking it
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>>41896629
you dont know the typology then.
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>>41896474
idk. can’t speak for everyone posting here, but there is a clear different vibe when you have baby trannies going through 2nd puberty, or getting excessively horny and openly flirting with each other, or doomposting about ngmi, vs older trannies that have run through the gambit already, and you can share common experiences while also discussing other aspects about life.

Can’t foresee if this discord will also last longer than others, but at least currently it has a clearly more grounded and mature vibe, but you’re permitted to also shit on it if that’s your prerogative.
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>>41896917
its my prerogative to shitpost. i ran the gambit and came out continuing to like men and indifferent to trannies.
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>>41896109
Turboluckshit passoid ancientjeep firstworlder confirmed.
Cope, seethe, etc.
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>>41896099
just join you retard
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>>41896917
I feel like the zoomer talk of young, mid, old, is just really delusional tho since none of them are even in their 30s yet, but also cos the majority seem to be babytrans tbqh
even more so back then, anyone that was able to transition 15 years ago before 20 and stable enough to take consistent hrt was pretty rare, like not enough to populate a whole community
I think the age thing kinda became a meme that got taken over and warped ngl, and it's not like anyone 3 years into transition is really babytrans, but they kind of act like it...
like dayum some of them have a vibe like it's their 5th puberty ngl
>>41896099
could be true iunno, there have always been ppl that stood out for different reasons, but I'm not sure I would describe the current board community particularly 'fembrained' or anything like that tbqh
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erm where is this discord at
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>>41897581
Here
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>>41897600
iunno what that is or how to use those letters
do ppl want me there too or does everyone still hate me???
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>>41893166
This is always what I have sought from a community. I call it the "Marbella high" because when I was in Spain for FFS it was my first major introduction to well grounded, smart, kind trans women who transitioned in the 90's and 2000's who weren't in their babytrans phase. It seemed wherever I went in my native country I could never find them, yet in Spain, here we all were getting FFS or a revision.

We peacefully sat at the top of a villa and reminisced about our home countries and laughed at how things have changed. We played Mario Kart. One woman brought some water up for me to drink since she memorised my FFS time and wanted me to be well hydrated before I fasted. We all went for dinner and ate some paella. In the end, we all sadly parted ways and never remained in touch with eachother. There was a sense that our meetings were only temporary and soon we would all depart back to our home countries and resume our lives being stealth.

I returned to my home country and was never satisfied with any trans friends I made. Wherever I looked, I found the next meltdown or source of drama. Within the centre of their relationship tornado, they were safe, but the lives they lived always had a bizarre swirling chaos that I wanted little, or nothing, to do with. So I openly talk about the Marbella high and every 20's babytrans with emotional dysregulation but 3 years HRT is eager to seek approval on whether they're one of the good ones before meltdown #5 over some menial bullshit that doesnt matter.

In time, the server will die. All good things eventually come to an end. Yet, for a time, I will be sated and 4chan will have proved it was possible. That means a lot to me.
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>>41897715
It's a discord invite, you type
discord dot com slash invite slash
plus the code at the end
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>>41897715
why would everyone hate you? As long as you meet the general criteria, and are chill, you’ll be welcomed. It’s still a small community for now, but it’s at least a means for everyone to connect and blog at each other or talk about stuff they’re interested together.
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>>41897422
everyone also forgets the autism. doesnt matter how long you are on hrt, if you sperged out and had autistic meltdowns before over nothing you will continue to.
my issue is i seem to be more literal hsts due to religious trauma, so have nothing in common with the real women trutrannys.
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>>41897825
>>41897990
hmmm maybe
>>41898520
iunno, I think ppl that melt down cos they're being relentlessly harassed at a time they're vulnerable is not quite the same as like... someone that calmly categorizes ppl into ontologically good and evil, based on internet basket waving posts, and acts weird based on that, for example
one could probs calm down and the other only stops being a drag when they choose to stop tbqh
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>>41898728
is still funny defining pandemic transitioners as ontologically evil when thats most of the people here at this point.
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>>41898940
like all of them are evil?? like the coff rewrote their dna and put the evil gene in them? lmao
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>>41898961
a lot of them are 5+ years transition too now. but they will forever be genetically a danger. must be the vaccine.
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>>41885180
How I feel at 26 yo with 9 years hrt
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>>41899004
This is just how culture and socialization works. It's going to have a lasting impact on people even when their environment changes somewhat. Pandemic reddithons will be insufferable for the rest of their lives, until they have to face actual hardships.
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>>41899133
dunno desu. know pandemic transitioners that lost job going into it so ended up homeless and bashed. came through it as same person just more jaded.
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>>41896660
i know the typology well enough but the idea that there are no new HSTS is bs jeep projection

>>41897257
this tbqh desu



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