Damn it... Every fucking time I get someone over whos I think is about to pull my hair and blast my ass, the "dominant top" folds like a fucking lawn chair. Do I really come off like such a hardass that it just gives off dom energy, or is it because I'm tall?I'm honestly at my wits end. At this point I pretty much just expect to have someones asschecks wrapped around my dick and to hear them grunting and moaning for about 20 minutes while I try not to feel too annoyed that I'm not the one getting plowed.
>>41894427Thats rough nona, I'm 5'8 and I never have that problem which I feel like isn't even short. It might just be your vibe you know, try to be more coy and submissive
why not kick them out instead of wasting 20 min + cleanup time
>>41894471>It might just be your vibe you know, try to be more coy and submissiveMmm... I've never been great at the performative aspect of being a sub.>>41894495I dunno, I guess I just... Like feel somewhat bad for them, and theres like an expectation, and they seem excited and stuff. I don't really have the heart to kick them out.
>>41894427Tell me about it. 18 years of domming because every """switch""" I encounter is actually a pure subby bottom. Im honestly at the point where Id rather not have sex at all because I keep getting nudged into topping when I really am just kind of over it. It's not fun for me and hasnt been for a very long time.
top main btw ama
i play mid u should try out that
>>41897658>ftm ends up being a jungler
>>41897666dont smile
>>41894471i’m extremely quiet and subby and i have the same problem being 5 11 sucks
>>41897614liar
>>41897727I never bend over for others, I like giving dick, simple as
>>41897710Tall subs need more love. :[ They're just the perfect height on their knees.
>>41897007"bottoms" are just self centered and want to live in a world where there is a category of person that gives them everything they want without having to give anything back.
>>41898283>>41897710>tfw I honestly just wish I had a normal sexuality instead of almost exclusively getting off to feeling submissive.
ah yes of course, the old bait and switch
>>41899957Only bad bottoms do nothing. We call those starfishes, and I hate them just as much, lol. If someone is just laying there, its not fun for me.Unfortunatley a lot of """switches""" that turned out to be bottoms were... also starfishes. Fuck my life.In any case the world cant be all tops, dawg. Someome has to do the fucking. Im just tired of being the one.
>>41894427As a 6"4 total top bwc, bottom chasers like you've experienced just make it easier for me to mind break you with clicker training in my kennel. Thank you bottom chasers for being comlete foolsTotal BwcVictory
>>41894427its really all perspective. sucks you can get your ass destroyed though. i prefer to bottom but will dom iif someone happens to more submissive it feels so good to wreck them physically and mentally. ive got a head full of scenes for myself as a bottom and i dont mind unleashing them on someone else. sounds like you're having a run of bad bottoms.
>>41894427rape them to assert dominance.
>>41894427I'm a switch but if someone expects me to top I wont change it midway, that's just being selfish.
>>41894427Tall AMaB = big tranny gock butthole blag engineThis is who you are
>>41894427I would top anyone if I had a penis though.
>>41901276i would top anyone, but i refuse to use my actual penis for it.
>>41901282Does it come off? what are you going to use then?
>>41901292will use my detachable one instead
>>41901300Lame! I want to have the real thing!
>>41894427I'm a strict top and if a bottom ever got any funny ideas I'd weld their cage shut.
>>41901318the real thing stuffs in your ass like a gummy worm and just wriggles around never getting fully hard
>>41901318the real thing is soft, doesn't work, small, hurts and gets chafed, using the real thing would suck to both
>>41901335>>41901345I got it the first time.But that's just ED
>>41901353not really, hurts even when 100% fully erect and it loses that state pretty fast also. Also it getting chafed is just the skin being thinED pills are only a bandaid to a bleeding wound
>>41901383I refuse to believe you and you should use lube instead.
>>41901404I use lube, maybe silicon lube would be better but these are the literal effects on destroy your dick hormones and I'm okay with this
>>41901353Its a known effect of estrogen jesus christ.>the most reasonable and adaptable bottom
>>41901411Water-based lube is evil and does more harm than good in my opinion. It just dries up and get all sticky and damages the skin because of that.Some water-based lube can also give you an allergic reaction.Never head about silicone lube having effects on hormone though.
>>41894427You know you can just say no and that you're a strict bottom...If you are being pressured into something you're not comfortable with you don't have to do it and the person doing the pressuring is not worth being with
>>41901420Well maybe you're a limp-dick but mine would be hard as timber and cut glass like a diamond >:(
>>41894524this is a really bad reason to fuck somebody nonayou know that already ofc, but you should say 'no, i don't like that, actually' if you don't like it, boys are very dumb n its our job as formerboys to not hint at things and hope theyll figure them outunless its a safety thing which i totally get but if ur just conflict avoiding i love u pls stop <3
>>41901425>Never head about silicone lube having effects on hormone though.I meant estrogen when I started to talk about hormones. Yeah maybe I should try out other lubes.
>>41894427In all seriousness, they've manipulated their way into that situation and lied. If I met a girl who said she wanted to fuck me after it had been agreed on that I fuck her, and that's it, the meeting would end.That being said, it could be worse, I'm a manlet, so I'm pretty much born under a horrifying curse as a chaser.
listen to our fren the short king & dnt fuck liers even if they are very excited that they tricked u into fucking them <3i am now convinced the polycule idea makes sense, do u wanna fuck op while she fucks me, we cld make this work anons
>>41901465(but like lots of lube & like only if u wanna we could like frotting and stuff instead, am babytrans n shes still quite sensitive what am i doing this is the internet, go to bed retard) (not u ur all great)
>>41894427The problem I see is that there are just too many bottoms. If I want ANY intimacy/sex, I have to present myself as a top and hope the guy I hook-up with will top me.
>>41901601start killing off other bottoms, the market is oversaturated.
>>41901629honestly im not really that opposed to the t4t4t4t harem anime in theory, probably a horror in practice
>>41901632everyone should probably be in an overwhelming polycule at lease once. why deny oneself the experience?
>>41894524>big and tall>doesn’t specifically telegraph submission at allI’m someone who is deeply sub, to such a degree that I will happily top if my dom orders me to provide service in that way. And in my professional degenerate opinion, these two factors together are the problem. I would assume you are at least a 50-50 switch if I met you. If you are generally confident and self-assured, I’d assume even further towards dom. Just act more subby, how hard is that? It will be a huge turnoff for anyone who is fully sub themselves—a perfect filtering mechanism.
>>41901804Ysee this bugs me so much. I am insanely submissive in bed *because* I am very confident, competent, outgoing n such outside the home. I get exhausted and want someone to hit that "brain turn off" switch and turn me into a puddle a little bit. Why should I have to betray my own personality just to have someone who understands that I'm deeply needy and service oriented once the sun sets? :[
>>41901832I am the same. I found my long term boyfriend on feeld - originally with the intention of a fwb type relationship. We met up a whole bunch and went through our wants and boundaries before we got to anything and we became really good friends in the process - and by the time we got to actually fucking it was quite passionate and we ended up dating lol.Lucked out really.
>>41901868Lucky lucky lucky Im so jealous! Ive honestly given up after a string of bad relationships + life circumstances. Resigned myself to celibacy without ever having explored my true sexuality because everybody seems to either be a bottom or in some way awful. Which kinda sucks because my libido and romantic drive are both very intense esp since prog started making me girl-crazy ahahahaaaaa fml
>>41901893Did prog make you more bottom-y or did you have a preference in either before prog? I want to try prog but I have to DIY it so it'll take time before I can. I'm just worried I become a bottom or develop a strong preference to it.
>>41901832I’m not saying it’s fair or right, but you’re not getting the results you want now. You have to affirmatively signal that you are submissive. It doesn’t mean changing your whole personality; it just means being aware that you are apparently unreadable as a sub until it’s too late (already in the bedroom). It could be as simple as telling someone explicitly on an early date, or putting it on your dating profile. I’m just saying that, in your case, nobody is going to figure it out on their own.For what it’s worth, my own case is a bit similar. I’m a huge, muscular guy. If somebody only sees pics and stats of me, they often expect me to pin them down, choke them, throw them around, etc. But apparently, my in-person mannerisms scream “useless pup sub.” So I’m just extra clear about being a sub when I’m meeting someone and it isn’t in person.
>>41894427Is this why the meme of there being more bottoms than tops exists, because of transwomen dealing with chasers? As a cis gay bottom I always heard the “there’s too many bottoms” thing, usually from gay people who never had sex or allies, but it never reflected the experiences I had of the gay sex marketplace in which I have literally sometimes been called in by a group of guys to bottom because they all want to top, or meeting other guys who feel they’ve been forced into just bottoming by their exes.
>>41894427You just have really bad taste lol.
>>41901757dnt get me wrong id still do it n likely turn into some kind of obnoxious sex pest and/or self-actualize, im just theorycrafting the 3-6mo timeline ykplus most polycules are kinda uggo i feel likenot that im not ancient babytrans and probably the same but yk
>>41901427They're retarded they'd rather blame people they don't know than people they do know and they especially don't want to blame themselves. Any rational advice like this they're just gonna ignore. The thread is meant to trick people into say "omg poor you" because she wants comfort, not solutions. 99% of the board. Spoiled pissbaby retards. Let me top you op and by top I just mean blow your head off. You're not using it anyways.
>>41901451There's no such thing as manipulating people into having sex with you unless substances, debilitating mental illness or a minor is involved, OP should just take responsibility for themselves.
>>41900130Not tired enough apparently. You could lay that pipe all day. You jealous? Personally I don't understand jealousy I've never felt it but I know it hurts. Being a bottom feels way better. All humans are wired that way but aren't shown their full nature. Too bad no one cares enough about you to give you a real bottom experience. Kinda pitiful. Do you feel like changing yet or.
>>41901931Prog seemed to move me from vers/switch to definitively bottom/sub. Ive denied sex altogether for the past while because the few times I tried it was just a completely unfulfilling experience for me. I was *always* kinda bottomy but willing to put up with the fact that no one was willing to let me let go. Now Id juat rather not have sex at all.>>41901938The thing is, Ive been clear. I tell people outright. Then the moment of truth comes and its like "can you fuck me first?" and if I do I never get my turn. ;=;>>41902170Fffffffffffff geez yes of course Im pitiful and feel like changing but Im rolling loaded diiiiice. Its not like I even get laid anymore anyways, I outright refuse to top. T.T
>>41902314First reply I fuckied my words a bit. Meant moreso "rather not have sex at all than top" because the 3 times I had sex in the past 5 years I was kinda pressured into topping with no reciprocation and hated it each time.
>>41894427What about a service top. I don't need you top, but it's tiring being a hardcore sadistic dom.
>>41902330>hardcore sadistic domNTA but I will do whatever you tell me if you pay me back with plenty of pretty marks and an empty mind..!
>>41902328I honestly want to enjoy topping more, prog might put me in to the mood better but I'm scared I want to be a strict bottom because I'm not cute. Might have to just test it at some point.
>>41902367Okay honestly I dont think it changed me so much as I was/have been going through a period of lifting dissociation/depersonalization during my transition. Before I transitioned I was pansexial vers switch which really was code for "Im so dissociated that I dont care who or what Im fucking I just want to make someone else feel good so I dont have to think about how much I hate my body". As Ive gotten to know myself I found that I personally havent ever enjoyed sex very much and a root cause of that is that dom/top just kinda feels like work to me, and I spend all day being confident and outgoing anyways. Like, I just wasnt having fun. So as I started asking partners to let me switch up, I found nobody really wanted me like that, hence my intense frustration with this topic.
>>41902382I know what you mean, I'm slowly coming into terms (during my 1 year 8 months on hrt) with the fact that I like bottoming as well but that doesn't mean (for me!) that I don't want to top at all anymore. I want to slowly explore bottoming but I still want to top since it honestly is fun. I don't want to lose that feeling but I'm scared I will, don't know why though, one might argue it's something what you said>want to make someone else feel good so I dont have to think..but don't know, future will tell ig.
>>41902344What do you mean empty mind?
>>41902453Wh..you know, like... no thoughts, head empty, listen to Mistress, Miss is always right, even if things hurt it's good because Miss is doing it <///<' I've gotten subs there before and have always been mega jealous over it. Living vicariously through them, it seems.>>41902418Just keep exploring and being honest with yourself, I think! It's okay to change your mind about something.
>>41902485That's what I thought but maybe I just read it weird because I'm tired.
>>41902485>It's okayI know and I will if it comes to that :)And what's really hot about topping is exactly that, the state the bottom goes to. I love making bottoms have eye contact with me for extended periods of time because that gets the best reactions possible out of them, usually have to gently guide their heads facing towards me when they get embarrassed.
>>41902520Hot. H-hot. That's hot. Yep. Exactly. Forced eye contact for the win, ahahaha. "No hiding, I *will* see exactly what's going through that cute little head of yours" ugh I neeeeeeed iiit DX.>>41902499Tbf I think my wording was weird but Im also tired. ^^'
>>41902540asking a question and speeding up pace works wonders as well, I can see the thoughts starting to form behind her eyes and that's the moment I speed up and that also makes it so much more hotter, then of course slight punisment from not answering chains up with that.Cheat code is to bite her neck at the same time.
>>41902540>but Im also tiredwhere are you from?
>>41902605East coast US, but mostly tired because Im in the middle of moving here from another state.>>41902581Biting is always the path to victory <3Geez that's hot tho I love it lol
i like bottom chasers. they make me feel wanted. plus no one would want to fuck a 6ft fat tranny in the ass anyway
>>41902827Just get rid of the fat and I promise it'll change
>>41903425Yea the fat is the issue, not the height. There is definitely a market for tall subby trannies, but being attracted to fat is in itself very niche and most people are actively repulsed either because it is unappealing to them or they associate it with poor health practices (take it from someone with a partner that got fat, ita frustrating to watch their health degrade. He cant top if he wanted to because his weight fucked his knees up. I hate it here)
>>41903580Yeah I have a gf and she is obese, at first it didn't bother me at all but now it's starting to be off putting and she wants to lose her weight but does a poor job at actually doing it.
>>41903637Read up on ways you can support her in it. Outside sources of support mean a LOT. Obesity is a huge detractor from quality of life and will impact you as her partner as she becomes less able due to the strain it puts on her entire body.
