>>41894706
its ok, cis women are agp too, they just dont have a dick to get hard

>>41894723
do women get aroused when they put on underwear?

>>41894769
sure mildly if its sexy, other than that you get bored of it too

>>41894706
there is no fetish. Same as poor person first time experiencing wealth

>>41894706
AGP IS NOT A FETISH

Stop hating yourself

>>41895263
masturbating to the idea of being a woman to the point that it makes you hate being male and want to be female is definitely a fetish

>>41894706
AGP IS NOT REAL SOOD
*jerks off in the stall at the women's restroom*

>>41894912
>sure, let me speak for women now
Kys hunchback creep

>>41895304
It's not.
but keep believing what you want and be miserable

>>41895263
>>41895349
agp is a fetish but there is nothing wrong with it and agps should not feel ashamed for it

>>41895349
i'm miserable either way as i'll never look like a woman and i'd rather than die than be a hon

>>41894706
Sometimes a fetish is just a fetish. It's only indicative of agp if wearing bras turns you on because wearing them makes you feel like a woman.

>>41894723
Women aren't turned on by the idea of wearing a bra.

>>41895263
It definitively is.

>>41895508
wearing it just reminded me how masculine i am. still got a boner anyway

>>41895427
It's not
It's a natural condition that forms in the womb. You can't change it so why hate yourself?

>>41895536
Some women are.
Some women are agp

>>41895553
Blanchard made a distinction between "simple" fetishism and "cross-gender fetishism" and only associated the latter with AGP. What matters is what wearing it meant to you.

>>41895536
Not even if wearing a particularly sexy one that makes them look nice? Yeah, obviously it becomes mundane to anyone wearing bras daily.

>>41895553
You can't change it. It's hard wired in your brain..why hate it?
Just respect others and don't rub it on everyone's faces and enjoy it freely. It was created before your conscious mind, with no malice.

>>41895566
i do not know about this but i am not opposed to believing it
but does that make it not a fetish? does a fetish have to be artificially developed? my understanding was that it just meant something atypically sexually arousing (eg being a woman)
anyhow i don't think it being a fetish makes it bad or wrong at all. i am not agp and do not hate myself or anyone who is agp. i think that op should be kind to herself, agp or no. she's just as valid either way.

>>41895609
The difference is that cis women do not need to fantasize about being female, and being female does not arouse them. They cannot be AGP.

AGP fetishism is not simply "getting aroused while wearing an item of women's clothing." It's getting aroused specifically by imagining oneself as female. This is often accompanied by wearing women's clothing to assist the fantasy, but it need not be.

Conversely, getting aroused by wearing e.g. silk panties is not necessarily AGP. It could be a fabric fetish, which would not be AGP.

>>41894706
Feeling more in tune with who you are can express itself in many ways, and getting turned on is one of them. Fwiw this is usually transitory. I remember how turned on I got the first and maybe second time when I wore thighs.

>>41895653
yo honestly think the whole “is it a fetish or is it just being trans” thing is kinda overthought lol

like yeah, getting turned on by feeling/being a woman is… super common for a ton of us (especially when we first crack and everything feminine feels like pure electricity). for a lot of girls that fire never fully goes away, for others it chills out after a while. either way it doesn’t invalidate shit.

a fetish is usually something you NEED to get off and that’s separate from your core identity. for most trans women, the arousal isn’t the point; it’s just the body going “holy shit this is RIGHT” after decades of wrong. it’s more like… puberty but aimed at the correct gender.

so nah, i don’t think it’s a fetish in the classic sense. it’s just the libido waking up when you finally stop poisoning it with dysphoria.

and even if someone wants to call it a fetish? cool, whatever. still doesn’t make anyone less of a woman. some cis girls get wet just from wearing cute lingerie or feeling their boobs bounce; nobody calls that a fetish that invalidates them.

bottom line: OP is a woman no matter why her body lights up when she puts on panties or hears her real name. full stop. be kind to her, be kind to yourself, we’re all just trying to feel at home in our own skin.

this place is completely reddit now

>>41895701
Why

once you've seen a trans woman sad cuz she thinks shes agp, you'll never stop wanting to beat blanchard to death with your own bare hands

>>41895620
because it's a reminder of how much of a freak i am? i can't be a normal woman or a normal man

>>41895659
>The difference is that cis women do not need to fantasize about being female, and being female does not arouse them.
I don't think they are male in their dreams either, if a fantasy where one is female is required for AGP, then they are pretty damn AGP.
If I fantasize about sex in my tranny body, is it AGP?

>>41895723
And it's not your fault. Why keep suffering for something that's not your fault?

>>41895753
so how do i stop suffering?

>>41895734
Your body is just your body. If your fantasies involve your body as it currently is, then that's not a component of a cross-gender fantasy.

>>41895734
There are some AGP females. It's a phenomenon.
Our brains are wired to be aroused by ourselves as women.

>>41895681
i love you nonny. thank you for the realness. maybe it does not matter whether it is a fetish or not; i guess it's kind of silly to even debate that sort of thing.
>>41895723
op see above please. there is nothing wrong with you, no matter what you think. wish i could hug you.

>>41895779
So cure for AGP is just transitioning, and then it's not AGP?

>>41895778
Enjoy this condition. Enjoy it because it's something innate, it's not bad, not ugly, not dirty. It's your own brain making you feel good. Your brain got wired that way in your mom's womb.
If you have a boner wearing panties, just enjoy it

>>41895710
you people are saying that this is clearly not some kind of fetish just like they do there

>>41895795
Thanks, baby.
I saw it this way: I've been miserable all my life and I'm not a spring chicken anymore. I've suffered a lot. If this AGP thing makes me feel happy, then the cost/benefit is positive so who cares. I'm not harming anyone and it's my life.

>>41895719
the most feminine thing to do is to threaten a researcher with physical violence and death :3

>>41895812
enjoy a condition that makes me hate the way i look and that i can't look the way i want to look?

>>41895817
It's objectively not a fetish.
Why would it be? Your arousal comes from a deep part of your brain, from a place you can't control. It's not bad, it's not dirty

>>41895837
living my life by weighing every action against the fembrained wiki, and only acting if it goes over 10 fembrained points

>>41895850
yeah, nta, but it gets better, its a tough pill to swallow but you can get there and its p nice, source me

>>41895798
The problem with AGP is any distress and disruption caused by it, and finding ways to alleviate those. If someone with AGP is fine with occasionally dressing in private and imagining being female, then that's fine. No transition needed. Transition can cause more frustration, if someone expects to be able to pass and doesn't achieve that. Transition works great in some cases, but it's a big undertaking, and not a silver bullet.

>>41895850
Try this:
Dress cute, get boner. Don't jerk off.
Enjoy feeling cute and the boner. Do it for 15 minutes.
Go to the mirror and look yourself in the eyes only. Don't think.
Tell me what happens

>>41895870
Sure, it's a different thing if one should treat it by transitioning.

>>41895719
But some of us are AGP and it's important to filter the fetishists from the real trannies.

>>41895855
They literally got a boner from it. A footfag can't control being turned on by feet but he still has a foot fetish. It being deep down doesn't make it right.

>>41895887
It's the same underlying phenomenon. Sometimes conservative treatment works, sometimes it doesn't and move invasive treatment is needed.

Sometimes physical therapy can treat pelvic floor prolapse. Sometimes it can't and surgery is needed. That doesn't mean it's not the same underlying condition.

>>41895903
And let's say it's wrong. Then what? You're going to hate yourself for something you didn't do?

>>41895895
The "real trannies" have always been AGP. HSTS are the ones who get called fake trans, self-hating gay men, transmaxxers, and so on.

>>41895855
do you think fetish is just a bad sexual thing? it's a fetish regardless of whether it's good or bad, whether you can control it or not
>>41895864
you're just a man

>>41895942
I just say it's not a fetish because of the bad connotation of the word.
It makes people think it's dirty.
I just wanna call it "a condition"

>>41895921
I can hate myself for acting on it. A pedo who acts on it is a sick and evil man, regardless of if his fetish is involuntary. If your fetish hurts others you have the responsibility to keep it under wraps.

>>41895928
Which communities are you in? AGP has always been the sign of a fake tranny.

>>41895956
Agp doesn't hurt anyone

>>41895956
AGP is true trans. You can't love and desired as a woman if you're not a real woman.

>>41895991
If AGP is trutrans then no one should ever troon out, because it's all just a fetish. Real trannies are women, not men with a perverted delusion.

any other gaygps here?

>>41895977
It hurts the women who have to put up with us.

>>41895956
Body dysphoria—which is the standard for trutrans these days—in natal males is autoandrophobia which is AGP.

AGP is not evil the way it's been painted. It's a condition which can cause great suffering. Some people with it are lovely, others are awful.

HSTS dysphoria is not the same as AGP dysphoria. HSTS dysphoria, when it occurs, is from the poor social treatment given to extremely feminine males, and also an aversion to having their genitals touched by another person or using them penetratively.

HSTS transition is a type of transmaxxing, in a way.

>>41896026
Transition is a treatment for clinically significant distress. Neither AGPes nor HSTSes are any more "really women" then the other. What matters is whether the treatment resolves or at least reduces the distress.

>>41896060
>HSTS dysphoria, when it occurs, is from the poor social treatment given to extremely feminine males
can you give some examples of this kind of treatment?

>>41896090
Being gaybashed in school. Relentless bullying and social rejection for being a "sissy" despite trying to be masculine. Being beaten to the point of bones being broken.

>>41896026
Look, I've been explaining why agp is beautiful.
You don't like it, then kys , you despicable human garbage

>>41896036
This is a extremely retarded argument. If they're hurt , they can go cry

>>41896087
People with AGP deserve the distress. Trying to force our fetishes on the rest of the world, and ruin the reputation of real trannies. It's better to repress it than to troon out. AGP is nothing like dysphoria.

>>41896141
Once again, women's feelings are given priority over men's lives

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I'm gay and I'm here to tell you all something you already know.

Your condition is not developed in utero. You are not a woman. You are experiencing arousal because you are perverse. You are aroused at taking the place of the one who would never touch you. It gives you a thrill.

From the outside, it is horrific to witness. I watch you insist you are a woman, you were born one, it is all natural. I watch a groomer insist women experience arousal at putting on underwear.

This is all an echo chamber of perverts encouraging and grooming one another. That is all it is. If you think it is anything other than that, you are not only wrong, you are potentially a danger to women and children.

Does this help at all? I want to help you.

>>41896174
kek

>>41896162
The diagnosis of gender dysphoria was created by Norman Fisk to enable heterosexual male cross-dressers to access medical transition. AGP is the basis of dysphoria.

>>41896174
Exactly. Trannyism is a real condition. You can tell because it exists in a non-sexual sense. A man who experiences sexual stimulation at the thought of being a woman is just a gross pervert.

>>41896194
Trannyism isn't a real condition at all. It's simply a dysphoria brought on by psychosis and poor parenting. Anyone that believes they are the wrong gender is psychotic. There are varying degrees, but make no mistake - if you think the only difference between you and becoming a woman is cutting off your dick and wearing lingerie, you suffer from psychosis.

>>41896162
Look, I'd you don't like it, be the first one, set the example and kys

>>41896111
hmm... most of the extremely feminine males i met were also really smart / cunning
like, these guys can act, they manipulate, they are crazy good liars, they will be the biggest queens around, adored by women and always articulate enough to never get into any physical altercations with men. code switching is effortless - their bread and butter.
i can't imagine one of them trooning unless they experienced physical dysphoria.

>>41896174
I'm gay and this is a story all about how my life got flipped, turned upside down. And I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there: I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel-Air.

In West Philadelphia born and raised, on the playground is where I spent most of my days. Chillin' out, maxin', relaxin' all cool and all shootin' some b-ball outside of the school, when a couple of guys who were up to no good started makin' trouble in my neighborhood. I got in one little fight, and my mom got scared. And she said: "You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air".

I begged and pleaded with her day after day, but she packed my suitcase and sent me on my way. She gave me a kiss, and then she gave me my ticket. I put my Walkman on and said, "I might as well kick it".

First class, yo, this is bad! Drinking orange juice out of a champagne glass. Is this what the people of Bel-Air living like?

Hmm, this might be all right! But wait, I hear they're prissy, bourgeois, and all that. Is this the type of place that they should send this cool cat? I don't think so, I'll see when I get there.

I hope they're prepared for the Prince of Bel-Air.

Does this help at all? I want to help you.

>>41896174
Literally kill yourself you garbage. Pathetic loser who has the need to bully others just for loving life. You're projecting because the real perverse is you, you come here and push your self hate on others.
Literally kill yourself. I'm done being nice and praying for people. No. Fuck yourself

>>41896246
This is the exact type of response a psychotic person would provide. Thank you.

>>41896213
I know it is. I want it gone but society either tells me to kill myself or tells me I'm heckin' valid. I just want a cure. I heard primozide is useful but they stopped investigating it. I wish they would work on it more so I can go back to being a normal man.

>>41896277
The cure is so easy you won't do it. Get off the fucking internet.

>>41896254
The psychotic is you, coming here, posting that disgusting shit just because you hate yourself and want to make others share your misery.

>>41896286
I like the internet. People in real life are too vapid and care too much about being normie.

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>>41896299
Calm down, sir.

>>41896174
I'm Anonymous and I'm here to tell you something you already know.

Your condition is not developed in utero. You are not gay. You are experiencing arousal because you are perverse. You are aroused at taking the place of the one who would never touch you. It gives you a thrill.

From the outside, it is horrific to witness. I watch you insist you enjoy are homosexual, you were born one, it is all natural. I watch a groomer insist gay men experience arousal at the sight of other men.

This is all an echo chamber of perverts encouraging and grooming one another. That is all it is. If you think it is anything other than that, you are not only wrong, you are potentially a danger to women and children.

Does this help at all? I want to help you.

>>41896277
There's no cure because it's not a disease. Now, you want to stop being agp, get in your brain and rewire it in the sexual/affection portion.

>>41894706
:( I'm so sorry nona i deal with the same shit. at some point i just try ignore it, pretend it isn't so bad, i also just try act like I'm just a man who takes e rather than stipilating all these rules to if I'm allowed to transition. i still feel disgusted with myself but it's been so much better i hope you'll be able to be ok too

>>41896308
The internet is your problem but you can't see it because you are sick. One can see the exact behavior in a fentanyl addict smoking 40 pills per day. Your behavior matches the pattern, you just have a different carrot hanging on that stick.

Keep chasing it while refusing to actually look at your environment. You'll catch it one day!

>>41896313
It took you that long, and that's the best you could do? Fuck, what do you do for a profession? Barista is def out of your league hon.

>>41896226
We should make sure we're talking about the same type of femininity, because the males I'm talking about are physically hypomasculine, and they cannot turn off the feminine body language because it's not something they're consciously doing.

Bullies see them as prey. There's no talking your way out of someone twice your size deciding to come at you from behind and hit you because he thinks you deserve it for being a little faggot.

That same femininity is a turn off for most gay men (the potential partners for these feminine males). Between being abused for being a feminine male and not being able to keep a boyfriend, rolling the dice on transition can seem like a better option.

>>41896310
Im done being nice. I'm always nice. But I just won't take it anymore. We don't hurt anyone. You come here and posts that shit with the only purpose of creating emotional suffering to people who are just doing their thing without harming anyone. Then who's the psycho?
I hope you suffer

>>41896319
>it's not a disease
What else do you call a biological organism that reproduces by attaching onto healthy specimens and contaminating them? I thikn disease is apt for the mentally transmitted affliction that makes you think your asshole is a "bussy" because you wear lipstick.

>>41896329
So where else am I supposed to go? Out there with the normies who make fun of me for being an ugly weirdo? Should I go to the gym or become an influencer and start following the latest fashion trends? That's not my life. I can't keep up with living a normal existence. Everyone else just has it all down effortlessly.

>>41895147

Interesting take

>>41896352
>we don't hurt anyone
Sure you do. Ask numerous children in numerous schools shot up by numerous trannies this year. But you repeat what you are told by the elderly groomers clinging to every youth they can dig their claws into.

You're a victim, do not get me wrong please. I don't blame you nor do I hate you. But I will not watch you destroy everything we worked for because of your illness. Fuck that. You now have gays and dykes openly hating on you in bars across the country. But keep believing you hurt no one.

PS - explain, in detail, how the complete social adherence to trans ideology does NOT mean the erasure of the bisexual individual?

>>41895668
>>41895681
Legendary and trve and real and mythical and zased. A lot of people will get excited when trying on feminine clothing for the first time, which shouldn't be surprising since it's probably the first time ever their outward appearance has even somewhat approached what their brain expects or wants. I say "excited" and not "aroused" because I think it's an error when people conflate arousal with horniness. Your body can be in an aroused/excitatory state without being "horny", e.g. being raped. But it's easy to fail in distinguishing these two feelings, and people will throw up their hands and give up the moment they feel excited wearing feminine clothing due to the shame of falsely believing they're simply indulging in some sick, twisted fetish.

I wish more people pointed out that these feelings are usually transitory. Imagine your brain is Jesse Pinkman and living as a man is like being stuck in the cage in the compound. Putting on appropriate clothing would feel like when Jesse escapes from the compound and drives away to freedom. Anyone would be freaking out in joy, but you eventually acclimate. These feelings are fleeting, but if you let them happen without any shame or self-judgment, you'll come out the other side and your life will be better for it.

>>41896355
>What else do you call a biological organism that reproduces by attaching onto healthy specimens and contaminating them?
It's not you retard
Your mom's body didn't give your brain the exact amount of right hormones to make you a dude and your brain atrophiated and the female features stayed and now it behaves like a a woman's.
I'd you don't like it, then kys. It's the only way out

>>41896375
First, those "normies" are all fucked up just like you and me. Actually most of the time MORE SO. BELIEVE THAT.

Second, you don't have to go anywhere nor depend on anyone. Read a book. Write one. Study for Sec+ exam. Get into vinyl records. THEN let the connections come. You dont need connections to forge interests and personality babe. You need personality and valid interests to forge connections worth a single fuck.

>>41896382
I clicked "hide" button and didn't read a word you spent time writing, solving capthcha and clicking "send"

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>>41896397
>your mom
Oh fuck here comes THAT guy.

>>41896347
The person you are describing simply does not exist. Give me one example.

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>>41896410
That's called "defeat" lol

>>41896441
Seethe
Cope

>>41896355
dude the whole “is AGP a condition / paraphilia / sexuality / whatever” debate is the most pointless circlejerk in trans twitter history lmao

like congrats you spent 5 years arguing semantics while the rest of us were just putting on cute panties on and living our lives

at the end of the day it’s literally just:

“my brain goes brrrrr and my clit gets hard when i feel correctly girled”

that’s it. that’s the whole phenomenon.

call it a sexuality quirk, call it a “neuronal condition”, call it tuesday, idgaf. the label doesn’t change the lived reality:

- it feels fucking amazing
- it’s been there since we were kids stealing our sister’s tights
- it gets less intense for most of us once we actually live as women 24/7 (second puberty does its thing)
- it never once made any of us less of a woman

so yeah, it’s “different than anything we know about” because science still sucks at studying trans people without pathologizing us. big whoop.

meanwhile cis girls get randomly horny from wearing heels or hearing someone call them “good girl” and nobody writes a 50-page paper calling it a disorder.

so let’s all just agree it’s a thing that happens, it’s harmless, it feels great, and move on with our lives.

touch grass, buy prettier panties, love yourself. the end
Ignore bitter hons

>>41895147
they get an erection?

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>Seethe
>Cope

See? This is what I am talking about, folks. Absolute disease. If it were a valid condition, you could debate and discuss it. Since debating it reveals the fact you are mentally ill, you throw up walls to protect your fragile little mind. It's psychotic behavior 101 and any slightly educated person could recognize this.

tl;dr these infantile tantrums are why trans needs to go like yesterday

>>41896441
I'm sorry that you had an overbearing mother and an absent father growing up.
Unfortunately that does not give you permission to be cunt. You, out of all people, should be the one empowering other queer people, yet all you do is spread hatred and bigotry. It's not a good color on you.

>>41896382
Wait why would I care if gays and dykes hate me? All the gay people I know are really catty and annoying.

>>41896491
Didnt read
Yiu spent all that time
I didn't read lol

>>41896492
I love you baby.
I wish I could be there and hug you

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>>41896475
It is not harmless, sir. Trannies litter the world with victims like discarded Pepsi bottles.

>>41896479
ngl my first boss at a startup went and jerked off on the toilet when we cracked 100k in cash assets

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>>41896492
>"Arguing biological and psychological fact is bigotry"

This right here. Holy fucking shit, thank you. This is a perfect example of how you think shooting up children fixes problems. You can just impose your will and it becomes fact. And ithose who do not agree are your enemy.

Sick, right?

> 5 trannies mass kill people
Then all white males are dangerous, black males, Arab males. More importantly, humans kill people. Therefore, all humans are killers

>>41896544
Aren't most trannies just white men at the end of the day?

>>41896516
Didn't you help?

>>41896398
No they aren't. They've got it all together. They know exactly what to say and do and when to say it. I can't even handle a basic social interaction without looking like a complete autistic retard. And god forbid I try and dress fashionably.

Hell, I try talking to them about anime or vidya and they look at me like I'm a lunatic. I simply do not fit in with them.

>>41896549
the trans shooters were 2 transmascs, a detrans mtf, and a cis guy that had a trans gf. the rest were sarcastically nonbinary for a few days.

>>41896549
At a chromosomes level yes

>>41896527
bro, i'm gay myself. you're being a genuine cunt. it's embarassing.
don't you see that you are using the exact same vehicles of opression that people have used against gays since the dawn of time yourself?
your stance of superiority, your talking down to other minorities is entirely based on the two-faced support of a population that still more-or-less ostracizes you.
you are no "better" or "worse" than trannies, that's why it's LGBT, we should stick together.

>>41896577
All black males are generate perverts killers then, because of the guy who killed irina

>>41896566
>"normies can't be fucked up because they're sheep"

They're human. We all get our info from sources. The majority think WalMart is a great place to shop. That alone is fucked up. When you peel back the layers, norm life is so fucking scarred. Watch 'American Beauty' and watch it through his wifes perspective. Forget everything else in the film, in the plot...just her. That "normality" she strives for is a beautiful, poetic example of the cracks under the surface. I live in that world and I assure you, they're fucked up. You are not unique. Neither am I. I've just ingested a lot more acid than most of you and it shows.

>>41896586
He hates himself too much and is so miserable that he has the psychological need to make others more miserable

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>>41896586
>bro
>im gay
>and i defend men invading womens spaces and the sterilization of minor children

Um...k? Thanks for sharing, I guess?

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>>41896612
>"I'll speak on behalf of someone I've never met to prove I'm not psychotic"

B R I L L I A N T

>>41896619

Clicked hide and didn't read.
You spent so.much time typing, finding the picture, attaching it to your post, solving capthchas ... And for what? I didn't read

>>41896619
I simply see trans women as women

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>>41896646

A tranny hiding from reality? That is so new. I am so shocked by it. So surprised. Shocking. Really.

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>>41896665
I don't care if you see them as peach pies. If you see a man playing pretend as anything other than a man playing pretend, you are at best suffering from folie a deux and at worst, you are yourself psychotic.

>>41896666
Didn't read

>>41896675
Baby

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>"Didn't read"

>>41896700
Didn't read

>>41896704
Doesn't pass

>>41896675
Maybe, but I see no issue in being deceived. Everyone is deceived all the time.
I take things at face value and embrace them with an open heart because our society is based on trust - and I do not wish for it to end.

>>41896719
You see no issue in being deceived? Weird but your choice. Leave the fucking kids out of it. Stop encouraging transition before the age of 18. Stop trying to push E and DIY hormone therapies on kids. Stop convincing confused children to sterilize themselves in the name of some impossible to achieve fantasy happiness. Basically, don't let your preference for self-deception morph into you imposing your worldview on everyone else. Admit it is a deception and live with it. Quietly.

>>41896765
I do not feel like it is a deception, but I know I've felt that way about other things before and they turned out to be deceptions. So I'm open to the possibility.
In the case of children, I think they should be allowed to transition if they express the desire to do so and at whatever pace they desire.

>>41896708
Jokes on you I don't care about passing

>the feds notice a growing sense of unity in the trans community
>they immediately activate one of their sleepers to derail the conversation

>>41896970
Wdym

>>41897026
this
>>41896174
guy is a fed

>>41897048
This guy is a psychotic groomer.

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>>41897066
>groomer

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Look at how the tranimals behave in this thread. It is all the evidence you need to identify genuine psychosis. Feral behavior, when you strip it down to the floorboards.

I say a fact
>"YOU ARE A BIGOT"
I state another fact
>"YOU ARE A LIAR"
I provide thoughtful commentary
>"HAHA DIDNT READ"
I talk to others
>"HE'S A FED"

Trans can only exist in a state of ignorance. Any other state would identify the futility of the trans ideology. Let that sink in. Let it TRULY sink in.

>>41897048
I see this like this:
> OMG guys, we can actually be happy while not bothering anyone
> NOOO, YOU CANT BE HAPPY BECAUSE I SAY YOURE A FREAK
yes, it can be glowie.
Or commie
Both use us like political/cultural cannon fodder

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>>41897130

>>41897130
Didn't read, baby
You typed all of that and nobody read it
:3

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>>41897147
>"My happiness comes before everything and everyone else"

Go on...

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>>41897156
Are ideas so rare to you? Is typing that hard for you? That you can't waste it? lol
lmao

>>41897157
explicitly not stated
>while not bothering anyone
please learn to read

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>>41897181
By forcing your fetish on the sane world, you are causing harm. We've been over this. Ignoring reality doesn't stop reality, btw.

>>41897172
Keep thinking about me wearing panties baby.

>>41897189
And are you hard, baby?
Big boy is hard talking to the trannies
It's turning me on, baby. What dirty thoughts you have.

>>41897189
funny that they used to say the same thing about gay people, isn't it?

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>>41897195
You miss my point. No one thinks about you. You force yourself onto children because you are pedophilic psychotics. Even now, you are trying desperate 7th grade deflection techniques. It's sad, it's pathetic but also it's VERY revealing.

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>>41897207
Now we're talking. Gays absolutely had problems. MANY problems. STILL HAVE THEM.

But we don't cut the dicks off of children, so I'd say we're one up on you.

>>41897157
Im entitled to the pursuit of happiness according to Tommy Jefferson >>41897208
Baby, stop, you're making me soak my panties... I'm going to have to change them...
How hard are you, baby? These trannies being so filthy and naughty? So perverse they make you hard?

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>>41897232
>"My happiness involves fetishizing myself in womens spaces"

And my happiness involves knocking trans people out, one at a time. Intellectually, of course.

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>>41894706
Is it agp if I don't have any arousal with my body but at the instant I kiss my cis girlfriend I got fucking bricked up?

Then at sex I won't get turn on unless they treat me like a woman because if they want to to act like a man and do dominant piv sex makes me feel... disconected. I'm afraid of fucking my current relationship because she sees me as a woman and is making me feel so ashamed of having a rapestick

>>41897222
i'm just gonna say 'catholic church' here and leave it at that
srs on minors isn't a thing btw and if it was, I'd be against it.

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>>41897269
>YOU DEFEATED ME SO YOU MUST WANT ME

Just admit you have no intelligent response and go, dude. No one cares about your pedo snapbacks.

>>41897250
Yes, these naughty trannies, they're so evil, right? Walking around wearing cute panties and sexy dresses and high thighs, and wearing make up... Polished nails, Smalling like vanilla... Keep going baby, you're getting me so aroused...
I bet you're leaking pre cum like crazy

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>>41897293

>>41897287
Yes, baby.
These ugly trannies are mean to the big boy right? They made you angry, right? With their make up and lipstick, with their mascara, high heels. Smelling sweet... They're so bad and degenerate... With their mini skirts...

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>>41897293
...

>>41897324
Go on, baby, I'm so hard think about how much you desire me, about how much you wanna dress up and be cute, how desperate you are for wearing tops and thongs

>>41897287
ohh you're a shartyfag
so based senpai

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>>41897327
chud pp sad that chud too scared to buy the panties that chud wants to try wearing

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>>41897293
.....

>>41897354
Yes, baby! Keep going baby!
>>41897351
Yep. She's just angry we can be what he's to afraid to be. He desires us, wants to be us.
Poor sad repper

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>>41897293
......O.o

>>41897369
chud has suspiciously large collection of images of trans women, too

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>>41897293
.......Oo.....

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>>41897293
........o...O....

>>41897370
I'm about to cooooom, baby

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>>41897293
.....O.O.....

>>41897382
>>41897391
Sad repper.
Just accept it, you are a girl inside and are just jealous because we are living your dream

does this guy really think all trannies are predators because of some boulevard press articles about the kind of people that are regularly shunned by the trannies otb anyways?
does he get that, uhm, trannies hate them as well?

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>>41897293
It's like an endless river. Of filth and degeneracy.

>"BBBUT WHITE MEN"

Just because you lack the capability to manage per capita statistics, don't assume everyone is as retarded as yourself.

>>41897406
Every (you) you give me is you being emotionally engaged with ME.
SEXY

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>>41897293
....ick.

>>41897428
Sad repper girl.
I'm not reading anything of what you write.

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>>41897293
........oof.

>>41897438
These bad bad trannies. Are they in the room with us

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>>41897293
....1800ohcomeonnow

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>>41897293
.....like a wild pokemon, a true rarity this seems to be.

>>41897468
What manner of distorted self-perception enables such a grave misapprehension to form?

hey, you sexually frustrated chud! yes, you!
come back in a few hours and visit /passgen/
you'll see what this board's trannies look like then
i have a suspicion that it might change your opinion on them.
but remember: no chasing in passgen, mmkay?

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>>41897293
..............again? Kids? Why always kids with trans?

>>41897468
>>41897483
You wanna be a tranny

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>>41897293
>"we hurt no one"
......sigh.

>>41897497
BAHAHAHAHAHA
wait, you're SERIOUS?! those malnourished estrogenized males? omg lmao

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>>41897293
.......one in a trillion chance....

>>41897498
What the actual fuck. That's disgusting.

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>>41897293
.........on and on it goes....

>>41897524
>>41897536
Yes baby , keep going.

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>>41897293
The answer is no.

>>41897547
>>41897556

Big bad meanie boy is a grey at troons and he's owning them on an anonymous basket weaving forum. He's such a big boy

>>41897556
sir why are you wearing eyeliner

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>>41897293
>im a woman
>im good at chess
Pick one, honey.

>>41897569
Didn't read

Repressed chud gave up
Well done, girls

Ironically the guy that posted about psychosis was suffering a psychotic break..

>>41898509
AGP is love.
AGP is beautiful
But don't thread on me.

>>41894706
You should ignore the arousal. You might be AGP, which is not necessarily a fetish, but rather a sexual orientation. Unfortunately, it requires you to be a woman if it makes you dysphoric, and you trooned out. It's only natural. If the only thing that makes you consider detrooning is the arousal, you may do best in simply ignoring it, or rather, make it go away quicker by, as you probably already do, feel massive shame over it

>>41899105
Arousal is not bad or evil. Why punish people for being aroused?