Why is it that everyone but hefabs know that hefabs are the way they are because they are too afraid of loosing male validation? I have been very close with hefabs and some seem to actually have some dysphoria but heavily repress it, because they have a patriarchal fear ingrained in them of loosing male attention. I am genuinely very interested in the hefab psyche, and how they are so unaware of themselves. Also I find dysphoric hefabs to be the peak female, highly feminine, craves male validation, often masochistic (usually with fucked up kinks), and usually being hot is what makes a hefab to begin with.
>>41900999I dont like this facial phenotype
>#ftm #makeup #meow #altIm going to hurt myself
>>41901036I do it’s peak ngl
>>41900999Idk all hefabs and theyfabs I know are just "I'm not like cis men I'm an AFAB so I'm pure and wholesome" and then go call trans women pedophiles
>>41901102Hefabs are very often bio essentialist and my theory it’s a cope. I’ve never seen a hefab be trans misogynist intentionally, trans women just get in the way of their bio essentialist cope. They justify living their lives repressed and as attention whores because they condition themselves into beleiving Afaberry is beautiful.
>>41901102>all hefabs and theyfabs I knowWhere do you meet these people? Wtf?
>>41901149Oh definitely, they want to be men really badly but can't get past their desire for male validation and victim status
>>41901155Now how do YOU know hefabs? Where do you hang out?
This shits so dumb. Get help, tards.
>>41900999It should be legal to crucify these women.
>>41900999It’s because hefabs and theyfabs are just women who want to attentionwhore by appropriating queer culture, they’re literally just women internally and they don’t want to give up being a woman because in most situations in the west today being a woman is just easier than being a man, especially on a social level and because these people are over socialised narcissists, they’re literally aren’t going to risk giving that up
>>41900999because being androphilic is hell.i am kinda like this too but at least im self aware about it.>>41901149this is trvvvve... imo its more like their brains would break if they truly faced the truth that "afabness" is really not that great and they dont actually want it like they pretend to. if they actually had transmisogynistic intent they would be more at trans womens throats every time like transphobes but that doesnt seem to be the case, like you said its just cope but whether it is or not doesnt really matter if its still transmisogyny in the end.>>41901969based
>>41900999>Also I find dysphoric hefabs to be the peak femaleAre you saying ftfemboys/hefabs are more peak female than cis women?
>>41901102I never seen hefabs and theyfabs being against trans women
Transitioning is when you get a shitty haircut
>>41902249wtf ive been a tranny for a week?
>>41902258Sorry you had to find out this way anon
>>41900999>I have been very close with hefabs and some seem to actually have some dysphoria but heavily repress it, because they have a patriarchal fear ingrained in them of loosing male attentionWell on the converse, I think some boymoders stay that way not because they actually don't want to be feminine or because they can't pass (many of them could); they're afraid of showing femininity in public.The first time I put a skirt on in public I was literally terrified, and anxious, for no real good reason (it's not like anyone has ever actually intimidated me for it), even though I had worn feminine clothing lots of times inside my house at first.I think gendered socialization can be so deeply ingrained and subconscious that you might not even realize it's there.Of course, I knew my fear of publicly showing femininity was gendered socialization, but IDK why they wouldn't obviously recognize theirs.
>>41902018>basedThis count you, foid
>>41902211basically>>41902227its just not that theyre directly against them moreso than them using stuff like socialization and agab to speak about their own issues then getting resentful when they get told its not okay because of the implications of trans women having any privilege over them because of their agab. which then usually devolves in them using ad hominem type insults and generalization like calling them white. this mostly only happens on twitter tho, which is mainly why i despise that app
>>41900999The lesson to learn with trans individuals is that no matter what flavor of human you are, there is no contentment. We crave what we are not simply for the sake of being dissatisfied, we long for utopias that would drive us to swift and violent suicide. We want things just because we don't have them even though we have no real use for them. It's never enough because we were raised to think so and even before, the condition was a regular suspect in our neurotic need for chaos, predictably ending with large scale slaughter and destruction. We're dumb animals and our smug superiority belies the eternal insecurity underneath. That there is no distinction between you and the mouse, and your end will be as vital and as meaningless as its death was. Modern convenience and escape, the fantasy that we trick ourselves with to think we are apart while death hovers always at an arm's length waiting for our turn. There is no escape, not even madness and our investigation has been thorough. All men(humans) die, there's no escaping it. in a hundred years we will be faded memories, in a thousand nobody will ever know we existed. Like the sparks off a metal grinder, gone in a flash. Even in that brief bright flight we choose to torture ourselves over the details of our handful of moments. Why does a matured Salmon swim up a river that will destroy it? That is its nature. Why does a human torture itself with its own imagination? Just the same.
>>41902283People who think like this or more generally turn themselves unhappy entirely through neuroses should probably just kill themselves, if you’ve never been happy as an adult in the first ten years after becoming an adult you’ve never been truly happy and probably never will.
They don't want to be men, because they know men get the short end of the stick socially. They'd fold without the endless validation of the sisterhood. They just want to be quirky.
>>41902457not only that, they want both the endless validation of cis And trans sisterhood. if being a kikomi was socially acceptable, im sure many of them would be that instead of whatever this is.
>>41902469They will never offer sisterhood to trans women in return, though.
>>41900999Hefabs are nonbirany you idiot. People also lie to them that taking t will make them ugly and bald.Hefabs should get on normal t and then switch to nandrolone or something after they have had voice drop and all other things that they want. Hefabs could be twinks forever, unlike cis gays.Like it or not but most trans people just want to look youthful and androgynous
>>41900999could be, I think early on clinicians remarked about how shame was more common in mtfs, it's plausible that similar stuff occurs for ftms that leads to manmoders
>>41901102Is there a trans person who has not been molested by a trans woman? You are just jealous cause you are have no connection to females. why should nonbinary person reject all of their past?
>>41901985Yet no male will ever be forced to incubate a child or die because baby inside of them is not dead enough yet.Women and all parts of female body are removed from all scientific reseach. People in charge are all rapists men who have been elected to rule by other men.Any man who pretends its more rough to be a male is delusional. Males literally just cannot cope that females hate them because of their actions and cry about loneliness.
>>41902552yes valid as heckin ever leave the hefabs alone
>>41902552>forced to incubate a child or die because baby inside of them is not dead enough yetcmon everyone knows things like this are easily fixed by... hmm well... stabbing yourself in the uterus i guess? yeah, that should be it.>Women and all parts of female body are removed from all scientific reseach.this is just not true, just terf cope all around. plus it probably even has more research than actual trans stuff, so theres your privilege as cisgendered women.>Any man who pretends its more rough to be a male is delusional.it is when youre being forced to be one when youre not. youll just never understand because youre a jealous self-victimizing foid.>females hate them because of their actionsthis is okay though. the thing is that trans women arent male, theyre just being forced to be but people like you are so resentful that they are threatening your victim status that you cant see past that resentment.
>>41902552The fact that your examples of how hard it is are edge cases and extreme scenarios that aren’t even real anymore in most developed countries proves my point. Reminds me of how certain kinds of narcissistic afabs complain that they’re unequal to men, when what they’re complaining about is that theyre unequal to extremely rich and successful men, not their peers who they are actually interacting with and already are equal to. >women hate men because of their actionsAre the equivalent of chuds who want literally all black people dead because some black people are violent criminals
>>41902597I'm not gonna read any that. i assume its some male glazing from the worst pick me cis woman ever (like always when its you) ..thanks for having a trip so I can filter you out you ugly dora the explorer looking cuck
>>41902619FUCK YOU
>>41902600Nah, males have it so easy, thats why women want to identify as men. Like sorry but males create all the misery they suffer from. Literally men making all the laws and opression. Its your fault.What about poor men? poor women will have it worse. But you don't even register ugly, poor women as peopleMost child molesters are white men. Black men are overpresented because of poverty and racism. Black men get locked up while the white men walk free
>>41902672NTA Women can vote too, so they have a hand in laws how they are too. Plus, women have a bigger influence on the culture because they raise children, so most bad men are that way due to the failure of women.
>>41902552>females hate them because of their actionsThe females that hate men universally are sexist and should fix their hearts.
>>41901152>>41901186do NOT let this guy around hefabs!
>>41902672Women make the laws in developed countries too you fucking retard, you’re talking as if we live in the last century which is probably because the brand of feminism you represent is from then.>poor women will have it worseThey objectively do not when you consider that wealth is a significantly more important metric for how a man is valued compared to a woman.
Women select which traits in males to pass on future generations Women teach boys the values they wish them to hold as men
>>41902227Idk what hefab and theyfab mean, but at my trans support group a "non-binary" afab who only presents as woman said that men can't transition to real women because they didnt grow up having to fight for feminism, wheras it was okay for women to transition to men
>>41902552>Women and all parts of female body are removed from all scientific reseachEven in trans women have better SRS than trans men. Trans women can get neo vaginas that can look similar to biological vaginas, meanwhile trans men can't get neo dicks that look even close to biological dicks, it looks like a disgusting frankenstein, has more complications and it's more expensive.Holy shit.
>>41902619She's saying all of that, glazing them as much as she can..but she admitted that she's straight, and into trans women...LOL
>>41903015Peritoneal and intestinal vaginoplasty were created for cis women, not trans women.
>>41903046That still means nothing when mtf bottom surgery is still more advanced, better looking and more affordable than ftm bottom surgery and will be for next 5000 years.
>>41902796Then all men universally should fix their hearts first.
>>41903013>men didnt grow up having to fight for feminism, I mean...are they really wrong about this one.
>>41903095They are wrong about it being a qualification needed to be a woman and they are wrong about thinking all girls did and all boys didnt
>>41903015You know that the only reason why trans men cannot get penis transplants is becaus of cis males gatekeeping it. Trans men would have had big working dicks for 20 years by now if cis males did not stop it from happening out of jealousy and fear
>>41903042She such an ally!!! Woah
>>41903070You can never have everyone behaving, just like you can't get all women to be good people.
>>41903111>They are wrong about it being a qualification needed to be a womanWell yeah, that doesn't make someone a woman. You need to be a adult human female.>and they are wrong about thinking all girls did and all boys didntHistory says otherwise. But go on, tell me more about it, MRA.
>>41903152Go back to sharty or /pol/
>>41903095Neither do most women, they take it for granted or actively fight against it. So not a good qualifier.
>>41903160ah yes my favourites.
>>41903122What kind of gatekeeping prevents big, working frankendicks from being made?
>>41900999He's cute. How old is he and is he single?
>>41903149>females that hate men universally are sexist and should fix their hearts!!!>then men should too.>You can never have everyone behaving!!
>>41903166There are still more women supporting feminism..
>>41903166Dont even engage its a shartyfag
>>41903203You're expecting the 100% of men to be normal people in everything, I'm expecting 100% of women to be normal about gender specifically. I have more realistic expectations, I think.
>>41903236Oh god, I can't believe I fell for a "valid concerns" strategy.
>>41903250>I'm expecting 100% of women to be normal about gender specifically.>I have more realistic expectations, I think>However if you ask us to do the same, it's hecking unrealistic standard :( feminazi!!!
>>41903236>you're le shartyfag because I said so
>>41903265I'm not saying that all men are normal about gender already, no. I'm just saying that it's weird to hate a whole gender for meeting a few bad ones. I guess it's fair if you also are okay with some of the men thinking that all women are bad if their mom was bad or something. But wouldn't it be nice if both stopped being prejudiced against the other solely because of gender?
>>41903061Vagina superiority
>>41903330>But wouldn't it be nice if both stopped being prejudiced against the other solely because of gender?No shit sherlock. That what most of women want.
>>41903344I wouldn't really call it "vagina superiority". It's more like amab superiority.
>>41903349Do most? I think most enjoy the position they are given due to sexism, and only like 25% of people are genuinely interested in changing things...
>>41903354Ah yes, "amab superiority" because it turned out to be possible to adapt surgeries developed for afab people to amab people too.
>>41903371>I think most enjoy the position they are given due to sexismOh lmfao, they always show how they truly think.
>>41903380Well yes because only amab transexsuals can get those while afab transexsuals are left with frankenstein rotten hotdog.
>>41903176Medical. Read about it. Penis transplants from cis men to other cis men have been done for 20 years. Only reason they are not done to trans men is cause cis men don't want to do that. This is why don't expect uterus transplants to ever happen. They are afraid people stop being organ donors if their donated organs are given to transgenders
>>41903436I keep learning about new things on this board, whoa. Never heard of penis transplants until today. Holy shit. Thanks for telling me about it.
>>41903436>They are afraid people stop being organ donors if their donated organs are given to transgendersIdea for new trans ally activity, donating organs specifically for them to go for trans people.
>>41903400What do you mean?
>>41902625>gets called out>FUCK YOUNTA but this is the most average straight woman response to any confrontationYou're embarrassing yourself
>>41903896I think she's aware that she's a straight woman, isn't she?
>>41903896LMAO no i just really wanted to say that because i thought itd be a funny reaction lul
>>41902399I think you’re wrong. A lot of these hefabs think men have it better. They want gay male culture, male friends, and they believe the bar is set lower for male fashion and humor (meaning they would get more attention). Like I said, I know hefabs personally >>41902491Hmmm I think you are right about hefabs just being nonbinary deep down, but hefabs don’t even want to look androgynous (despite what they will tell you) becuase femininity is always something really important to them>>41902767Lmao just because you blame your mother for your shitty life doesn’t mean women are responsible for the failures of adult men>>41903436Grim
>>41904810I don't have shitty life and I have my mom to thank for that. So clearly the men who have shitty lives have shitty moms.
>>41904829Still a shitty generalization my mom is great, I’m doing pretty well, and my brother is the scum of the earth You can’t blame mothers for a majority of shitty men it just doesn’t line up
>>41903408And AFAB intersex women, that's what anon was getting at
>>41901102they are so valid its insane how valid they are
>>41904212>in every ftm threadYou should transition
>>41904212This is why the successful comedians are men>>41905056She should get off the board instead
