Spare me your heavily filtered, specific angle face shots. That isn't passing. That's pageantry. I want to know if actual passing, as in no one clocks you, no one knows, your obsession for attention keeps it quiet somehow and you tell no one - would you actually pass as the opposite gender to the general public? To healthcare workers? To educated professionals? Really?
>>41905270Once an incel always an incel
>>41905287Trans are incels. I agree. But can an incel pass as a woman if he tries hard enough? Can he become the thing that wouldn't touch him? Really?
>>41905300I think yes, but, it's rare, like, if you already have the natural ability to pass, pretty sure you were a pretty decent looking guy, and, if you fell into incelism, the odds are minimum...
>>41905310Then you don't actually believe in transgenderism. You believe in pretty faces?
>>41905314Sorry i don't think i get your question... Sorry, it's not my best day today. Well, i mean, me for example consider myself an incel because i was tormented as a kid and a teenager and i managed that super wrong into adulthood, which made me super distant from woman, but, i've never felt dysphoria or the need to transition just for pleasure. I am not ugly, like, i'm just all wrinkled up by the lack of self care.
>>41905270this hon is making me book a teeth whitening right fucking now
the eyes are the window to the soul, and coincidentally the only area that ffs will not be able to alter
>>41905270left was me before hrt
>>41905270she's had FFS now :)
>>41905441That really cured his male pattern baldness.
>>41905434The pain in those eyes...
>>41905270i keep getting mistaken for a girl even though im a booooooy >~<
>>41905270>to the general publicEasy. They're not nearly as brainwormed as this place.>to healthcare workersMy best stories are from confused or shocked healthcare workers. Like that time I went in for a scrotal ultrasound...>to educated professionalsWait can you like get a Ph.D in transvestigation? If so probably not to them because they literally only clock cis people.
>>41905270You basically need to have a one of a subset of DSDs to be able to pass as the opposite sex, because prenatal and early childhood masculinization (or the lack of it, in ftms) dooms everyone else, even if they medically transition at 10.
>>41905719I mean tbf I undervirilized pretty hardcore during puberty too but I feel like passing trannies are more common than intersex trannies could possibly be, especially if you have to narrow it down to a shortlist of DSDs.
>>41905980Depends how strict you are with your definition of passing. My view is that it's not passing unless you have a shaved head and are wearing nothing but a towel.The shortlist thing is because I don't think MAIS or Klinefelter's typically do enough to make people pass.
>>41905270oh god even her skin became pink like a lil dood... at least that means the estrogen is working!!!
>>41906024Those are unrealistic conditions though. Most women only shave their heads under duress, it's socially unacceptable to walk around in public wearing nothing but a towel, and the towel will kind of obscure body shape anyway.I pass in form-fitting athletileisure with my hair in a high ponytail or messy bun, completely exposing my hairline and maximally revealing the shape of my skull, after transitioning long past the completion of puberty. I have had zero cosmetic surgeries.I'm not posting pics on 4chan but I'm happy to explain why I believe that.
>>41906082I shaved my head while undergoing treatment for alopecia, and I've kept it short since because it's so much more convenient.I wear a towel immediately after showering at the gym or swimming pool.Those are not unrealistic conditions.
>>41906128>while undergoing treatment for alopeciaSorry you went through that, but that's what I mean. Something prompted you to do that.I'm certainly not about to shave my head just to prove an anonymous stranger that I still pass, and neither is any other sane person.
>>41905449>>41905449kek
>>41905647>My best stories are from confused or shocked healthcare workers
>>41906484Trying to read someone you can't see is never gonna work.>t. probably 100lbs lighter for one
>>41906171I don't want my passing to be based on visual props like clothing, hairstyle, makeup, or (worst of all, in my mind) padding.The towel thing is a concession to trans women who haven't managed to get SRS yet.
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>>41906518>i dont want passing to be based on anything other than passingGood. We agree.
>>41905270i haven’t eaten pasta since i saw this image and honestly i don’t think i ever will be able to again
>>41905270order of worst to least worst 1. past earrings 2. loud greasy hairstyle 3. the poor lipstick application 4. classic insta clock tranny choker not even being able to cover her adams apple5. stand out classicly sjw glasses in a loud color6 piercings 7 eyeliner it looks messy but she has hooded eyes that look hard to put it on she is a very clockable tranny but she wouldn’t look near as offensive if not doing those 7 things just like a normal clocky tranny that isn’t particularly attractive atleast not to me
>>41906518I guess what I'm saying is those are unreasonable conditions to impose on someone else. Like I'd want to be able to pass under those conditions too but I don't want to live my life under those constraints.I fill in my eyebrows (2/3rds of one of them is missing pigment so I make them match) but don't wear other makeup unless I'm being unusually fancy or might end up on TV or something. I don't wear padding. It doesn't seem to actually matter what I do with my hair, except that styles look better or worse.A normal towel wrapped around my chest will cover most of my legs.>>41906521Trying to read someone you can't see is never gonna work.>t. NARS Oslo white americunt
>>41905270Does it matter?What's a tranny going to do if they giga pass?Sit around on social media and post to other trannies how they giga pass?
>>41905270I get misgendered about 1 in 20 times, so I guess I’m 95% woman to the general public. (Usually misgendered with masc clothes, no makeup etc) I have a pretty bad jaw and chin (getting FFS in the next few months, I’m 5’7” 135lb so I pass heightwise, decent body, great hair. Voice passes perfectly. Am I a woman yet? I hope to get 100% gendered female after FFS but we’ll see…
>>41906800>95%So you get clocked by multiple people every time you enter a busy store. Got it.
>>41907298You could see it that way, but my presentation is variable and passing rate varies accordingly
>>41905300>Trans are incelsthose are the faketrans that think they can transition as a strategy to get laid (transmaxxers).
>>41907535hussies are gay transmaxxers
>>41905270Yes absolutely, it exists
>>41907298what about me do i pass here are my details:>passes
>>41907569prolly idk
>>41905270I'm ftm and I pass 100% of the time in public, minus the few times someone's thought I was a woman due to my now long hair and apologized. When I was younger and tomboy/butch moding (around 13-14 since I got on hrt at 15, I had already basically finished puberty) I got gendered male on more than one occasion when someone was actively looking at my passport (which had a picture of me with long hair), with one TSA agent even commenting that he also had long hair as a kid. I also got told I was in the wrong locker room on the first day of eighth grade, which was severely awkward.
>>41905270Either newfag, or sub-iq chud arguing toupee fallacy.If you’re arguing for unflattered photos (something not even cis women tend to do when taking their own photos btw), you’re arguing double standard.If you’re arguing “do trannies fool transphobes, medical professionals, or even other queer fags trained in clocking trannies, there have been numerous posts about said stealth trannies able to live and be perceived as said gender they identify as, in the aforementioned scenarios. Hell, there was a prominent makeup artist on youtube the past decade who came out as a stealth trans woman, and no one fucking clocked her.But the heart of the matter is you don’t actually want an honest discussion and instead wanted to just stop by and take a shit in the public queer board, since /pol/ seems to have long abandoned scouring their own dumpster from equally low-iq posters such as yourself.
>>41905270I male failed as a chad tier male before taking HRT, passing is very real and not necessarily looks based.I'm sure someone will find this take entertaining, but it's true lmao.pass harder lol
>>41907917now you're a hot but clocky glamazon goddess!
>>41905270I passed on my first hrt consultation, they thought I was ftm, am mtf.
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>>41908092I'm not lying. The endo clapped when I told her I'm mtf.
Hmmmmm
>>41908952Why do the green things in the background have eyes?
>>41909228hahahaha
>>41905270no. i got asked by my nurse when getting an orchi if i had my tubes tied/if i was able to get pregnant. if a fucking nurse is gendering me correctly in my shittiest moments i pass.
>>41906521projection rajeesh
>>41909566I may or may not be someone you despise, that is true. You are warm. However you don't despise me because of my race ha ha
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I don’t think I pass but I’ve not been misgendered in years and people invariably treat me as a woman. I’ve stopped worrying about it now, and I just wear men’s clothing and no makeup. If someone thinks I’m a tranny, idgaf. I’m different enough to other people that being considered weird for my sex or gender is the least of my concerns.
>>41910216People don't misgender you because you don't interact with people, and those you do interact with don't want you to shoot up a school.
>>41905270trans who aren't just somatic narcissistic men with autogynephilia are passing
>>41905287lol this
>>41911287Many such cases.
yes esp ftm
>>41915624Fun fact: Elliot Page is taller than me.Might have broader shoulders too.>4'11.5 mtf
>>41917190You could probably start a religion for all the autopedophilic boymoders with you as its central figure of worship.
>>41917388I mean that's not what I'm after so let's not but yeah I probably could.>just bought shoes at Walmart>in the children's section>most in US children's size 2 (measured size 3 but nobody can follow a fucking standard)
>>41917622I think I'll stop complaining about having only been a US men's size 6.
>>41917661It's not all bad. Look! I got Minecraft shoes!
