Im beginning to think that Britain might be hostile to trans people
>>41911479https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/1pfp5bl/trans_women_to_be_barred_from_main_labour_womens
>>41911479It's a literal fascist state here in the uk, they're even trying to abolish jury trails, I'm expecting either a violent revolution here or death camps will start popping up in like a decade at this rate, it's scary
>>41911511Abolish jury trials, and the right to appeal sentences.We better hope we are never falsely accused of a crime or they'll be no escape. Im still bafflrd how the avergae brit demands this
Labour has an overwhelming majority in parliament and could literally rewrite the law.
>>41911616I'm waiting for the day it's revealed that the government is framing people with ai, it doesn't matter if you did anything they'll arrest you if they feel like it =(
>>41911633Better to kick the can down the road and just let organisations ban an entire section of society at will
>>41911645It'll eventually get to the ECHR, the UK govt will lose and be forced to brinf in new laws, and there will be zero compensation to trans people for the harm caused in the meantime.
>>41911644Already happened, remember the post master scandal with Fujitsu. One woman accused had a mental breakdown so severe so was institutionalised and developed schizophrenia. I can relate because something similar happened to me
>>41911659>there will be zero compensation to trans people for the harm caused in the meantime.So many lives devastated. I was denied hrt as a teen, i thought "at least no one will suffer as i did".What a disgrace Britain is, i spit on this country and will never forgive it
>>41911479hostility is the norm here
>>41912008I think they'll make being trans not just difficult but illegal
Brexit was a mistake
>>41911479Transphobia is legally mandated in Britbongland:https://www.christian.org.uk/news/lib-dems-forced-to-accept-gender-critical-beliefs/
>DISCRIMINATION IS LEGAL IN UKliesSupreme Court ruling upheld that gender reassignment is still a protected category in Uk anti discrimination laws. UK still allows gender affirming care, even for minors. Trans people are allowed to serve openly in the military. stop acting like UK is Russia
>>41912697gender criticals are using the legal system to force their way into spaces where they're not wantedreally makes you think
>>41912756Fuck off, piece of shit liar
>>41912849>waaaah homphobic parents can't easily groom their gay kids into transitioning anymore>waaaah teenage autogynephiles can't medically facilitate their fantasies of being female anymore
>>41912890So glad the hide button exists
the UK only has two gigapassoidsthats the reason
>>41911479the mental thing about this is that, once again, it's not something required by the law. the single-sex nature of these things is mostly enforced by social convention rather than by making use of the cut-outs in the equality act. (which aren't requirements, they're just a defense against the charge of discrimination.)living in britain is a constant reminder that the law is fake. the letter of the law can say one unambiguous thing (the GRA2004 changes your sex for all purposes), the courts can say another (um actually, this act secretly all-but-repealed the GRA2004 despite clearly being intended to extend it), the EHRC can say something that doesn't follow from that ("you may discriminate on the basis of sex to have a women's group..." becomes "you must discriminate on the basis of sex to have a women's group"), and institutions then follow that line mostly out of fear of being sued by cranks backed by billionaires. you can accept the supreme court judgement and still see this is madness! madness everyone goes along with because - as i opened with - the law is fake!
>>41914958> it's not something required by the law. oh course, never let a good crisis go to waste. always bring this up about the labour shit party. they choose to do this
>>41911479>Being surprised that the overwhelming majority (Hetero/Normal people) are hostile to the minority that attacks the majority>Shocked Pikachu Face.jpg>>41911511All Republics eventually develop into Empire. If they sustain long enough they turn back into Republics when people get tired of the draconian measures required for upward mobility. Britain has gone through the transformation multiple times. Really though, right now they do need an authoritarian government - they have minority interests making demands on the majority and minority ethnicities attacking the majority. The best way to counter this is to become openly and overwhelmingly hostile to anything that isn't straight, white and British for awhile until all the minority interests and ethnicities fuck off or die. Its not personal, its survival.Joke's really on you for thinking human society is capable of fair and equitable division between more than one group when all of history tells us that the best we can do is mere coexistance until the two groups begin fighting until there is one.
>>41911479reminder to vote reform
>>41915054>t. subhuman who fell for israeli propagandaanon you realize that every newspaper is currently a rag hostile to minorities in response to the failing economy and quality of life overall?You realize your government will still keep raping you raw even after the big bad blacks moslems and troons are gone?Thinking the minorities ever "opressed" you and it wasn't the government wanting to excessively control their work slaves is delusional
>>41915102In addition to this, every authoritarian state formed as a response to failed economy, and resulted in a failed economy with a population brainwashed enough to not notice it
>>41915102Its not about being oppressed. There's always going to be a first-class and a second-class in the citizenry of any nation, there's always going to be a haves and a have-nots. The trick is making sure that the have-nots are always outlier groups, rather than allowing your government to turn normal citizens into second-class as many nations in the West have done in recent years.You have to focus the hostility outwards, always outwards. Because if you don't, it will be focused inwards on yourselves and your own people. There will never not be a hostility or a second-class thoughever. If it isn't someone else, it will be (You).
>>41915137What are you talking about you retarded nigger?
>>41911479This is what happens when Christians run a country.
>>41915173are you dumb? the uk is minority christian and all the transphobia is secular and based on "biology" shit the big atheist guy dawkins is literally in on the shitthis isnt the fault of christians, coe is probably woker than the uk on avg lol
>>41915157Basically, the societies of today are turning around and burning faggots and browns because we're tired of purity spiralling amongst ourselves and losing more and more buying power, voting power and control over our societies every year. Things will continue getting worse until we find somebody other than our own groups to victimize, which is something that societies understood as gospel until the modern day.Ever wonder why every society in history going all the way back to ancient times always had to have a war, a pogrom or a crusade going against one of its neighbors and they could never just settle down and stop? This is why. If you don't have an outside enemy, people just start fighting the inside enemy. People can never stop being hostile to someone, hostility and hate are part of human nature. If we don't direct it against the Other, we just direct it inward and start going after our neighbors.
>>41911511>they're even trying to abolish jury trailsthey aren't just trying they have abolished them for any crime with a "typical sentence" of under 3 years
>>41911511jury trials r retarded anyways
>>41915191alla that and never blaming people actively making the average person's life garbagejews did a good job on you
>>41912849The funniest thing about the UK is how it pays lip service to liberal ideas and everybody claims they are liberal and progressive but then their actions utterly bely this.
>>41915232Again, its not about blame. Human nature is human nature. We have not changed one bit in ten thousand years and we're not going to change one bit in the next ten thousand either. We will always, always be fighting. Outward or inward, left or right, political or religious, all of the circumstances don't matter. When we're not fighting, we'll find someone. If we can't find someone to fight, we'll make someone to fight, which is what is happening in the UK right now. They don't have an external enemy so they're setting aside minorities inside their own civilization and attacking them because people can't continue on without an enemy to fight. All the hatred that humanity has must be directed somewhere in order for civilization to function, all the angry young men in society must have someone to fight.If we go off and we fight the Russians or the Chinese or something, you'll see less attacks on LGBT and Pakistanis living in Britain, but not before. In order to stop the internal fight, you must give people an external enemy to unify against. But they don't have one, so here we are. Its not a choice that people make, this is the way that humanity has always functioned and will always function.
>>41911479genuine question: why do trans women feel the need to be invented to literally everything? a lot of this conference is probably going to discuss things that have absolutely no bearing on trans women like, maternity leave benefits and shit related to periods
>>41915367Because the entire purpose of the movement, like with feminism, is not to gain equality but to gain privilege and preferential treatment. Women want privileges and special rights formerly only available to men, that's the primary focus of feminism. Men want privileges and special rights formerly only available to women. That's the primary focus of transgenderism.
>>41912756UK politics 2019-2025 is one long worked example of the UK being Russia. The relationship between the press, the major parties, and the corrupt and powerful oligarchy that runs this shithole has been made very, very obvious. The UK is a managed democracy. Where other countries let you choose between coke or pepsi, here the newspapers decide whether you're getting pepsi in a coke bottle or in a pepsi bottle.
>people are hostile towards trannies for no good reason
>>41915261Spot on, it's why the uk was a beacon of democracy in its prime, what we're dealing with now is a british elite who no longer cares about its own pride or people, globalism was only for the rich to abandon us and now we're stuck with having us be scapegoats from idiots who don't see that we've been forgotten, we all know nobody would've gave a shit about trans folk if it wasn't for our government pushing for it, if we focused on an outward enemy and british pride was pushed then we would be ignored mostly, hell you can even push the narrative that gay british folk like alan turing or freddie mercury are something to strive for, And that's not even to mention how Islam hatred for us and it growing population is making it even more dangerous to live here, I blame neoliberalism for starting this whole shit.
labour is allegedly a “left wing” party
reminder UK is the most reactionary country on earth. it decided to restore monarchism after abolishing it and getting a republic
>>41911479A vague suspicion is beginning to arise
>>41911659>It'll eventually get to the ECHR, the UK govt will lose and be forced to brinf in new lawsI don't understand why people believe this. They won't. The ECHR can only issue a guiding verdict, they can't force anybody to brinf dick shit. Governments can and have simply refused to implement verdicts and they'll do it again. The government literally can just go "no, we don't accept this is proportionate, we need our existing laws in place to fulfil a valid objective" and there isn't fuck one anybody can do about it.The UK *used* to be extremely meek about this when we were in the EU in order to be a good citizen, but it's anybody's guess whether Starmer won't just shrug and disregard it. And if the verdict of the famously slow court isn't delivered until Farage's won the next election, well. Guess.
>>41911659Theyre trying to leave the ECHR
>>41915644Go bakk to 2015 The ENTIRE establishment mobilized against Corbyn bekause he posed a minor threat to them ,no matter how inkompetent he wasAlso presenting only two kurated options to vote between is also an example of managed demokrasy ,just the kind the US has
>>41918051Don't you mean Korbyn? Korbyn Dallas?
>>41918854Jeremy Corbyn ,the politikally inkompetent ,sosial demokrat ,ex-Labour leader
>>41918898Right, but you ka– uh, can't use that letter, right? So it should be Korbyn?
>>41911479Oh no! Are ftms banned from the men’s conference?
>>41911982i've got the strangest sense you're mischaracterising exactly what went on but i'm not gonna act like i'm sure about it or anything
>>41911511Multicultural fascism that's new
>>419180512015-17 is odd because the establishment were overconfident. The courts (correctly) found that the Labour leader was on the ballot by default so Corbyn couldn't be removed without a vote in 2016, for example. If the case had come up in 2019 they'd definitely have legislated from the bench like they did regarding the EA2010.The BBC were half-impartial in the 2017 election because they thought the public would reject Corbyn the same way they've historically rejected Labour at the behest of the right-wing newspapers. They all believed their own myths about 1983 and public opinion. It's after 2017 returned a hung parliament and a massive increase in Labour's vote share that things get truly wacky and the full force of the establishment was brought out.
>>41911479>how could our only-slightly-transphobic allies do this to us???gee i wonder...
>>41919015Dang that’s an inconvenient truth nuke
why hasn’t labour passed a law banned trans women!?
