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the ban on transgenders in us military would have bern prevented if this amendment was allowed to pass. trans activists really shot themselves in the foot with maximumalist demands
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Stay the fuck away from trans healthcare, polchuds incel freak
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>>41914938
you have no right to free sex change surgeries paid for by the military
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>>41914952
It's the fucking military autist again. Gonna spread more misinformation again?
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That ban is a good thing. Prove me wrong.
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>>41914964
why are you joining the military and than getting sex changes? you should have gotten it before or after
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>>41914928
I'm having a lot of trouble following the nested negatives here.

Pentagon funding transgender surgeries = good
block pentagon funding transgender surgeries = bad
Defeated block pentagon funding transgender surgeries = good?

Israel isn't even in the news, why is this bull shitting everywhere?
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>>41915004
Why don't you want trans soldiers to get mastectomies and take steroids?
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>>41915004
Why carve out a special exception against trans healthcare? Paying for medical care is one of the primary incentives the military offers for joining.
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>>41915016
that’s a cis female bodybuilder btw.

also I’m not opposed to either. but not on tax payer dime
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>>41915019
> Why carve out a special exception against trans healthcare? Paying for medical care is one of the primary incentives the military offers for joining.
so you admit they join to get free sex changes? no wonder trump had to ban you.
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>>41914928
It would not have been prevented, the ban would've happened regardless and you know it too
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>>41915032
are other surgeries okay on the taxpayer dime? An appendectomy for instance?
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>>41915042
and some people join to get free college
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>>41914928
No, receiving tranny surgeries for military service is more than fair, if not a little exploitative of the trannies themselves. It’s also an infinitesimally small expense in military terms.
This whole topic matter about funding or defunding various levels of transition is all about politics and control. Petty squabbles about one’s pennies going toward a transition while the gov takes your dollars to give to billionaires is transparently just about spite.
The US could give all of its trannies the full suite of surgeries very easily if it didn’t have an evil healthcare system and a distinct hatred for said trannies
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>>41914928
the ban is a based thing tho
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>>41915044
trans service members were relatively new concepts. so people were kind outraged when they found out sex changes operations were being paid for. so maybe in 10-20 years you can, but not now.
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>>41915042
People join for free college, free lasik, free dental, free everything. That's literally part of the employment package of being in the military.

Why is GAC special?
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>>41915043
> the ban would've happened regardless and you know it too
we will never know. i know trump was forced to ban them after this amendment failed.
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>>41915032
"cis female"? Really?
And guess what dickhead, the entire fucking military is on the taxpayer dime. Nobody wants to join to fight Israel's war, certainly not armchair patriot faggots like you, so the military needs to offer bribes in exchange for service.

It's not welfare, it's fucking PAYMENT.

>>41915042
Why else would you join?

>>41915061
Or maybe get you dumbfuck politics out of our healthcare?
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>>41915072
>Forced to ban
Nothing forced him.
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>>41915076
NTA but let's be clear:
He was best friends with Caitlyn Jenner and has hosted drag shows at Mar a Lago.
It wasn't his idea, he's just giving the crowd what they want, and the reason the crowd wants it is because the zionists use trans as a distraction from Israel's shitful behaviour, which "muh money" McFaggot doesn't seem to care about.
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>>41915074
> "cis female"? Really?
she has a vagina, she has a big one. she is a female.

>And guess what dickhead, the entire fucking military is on the taxpayer dime. Nobody wants to join to fight Israel's war, certainly not armchair patriot faggots like you, so the military needs to offer bribes in exchange for service. It's not welfare, it's fucking PAYMENT.

it should be payment after serving. they join, get surgeries and than quit.

>Why else would you join?
defend america from transphobic regimes like russia snd china

>Or maybe get you dumbfuck politics out of our healthcare?
most cis people generally oppose public funding for trans healthcare. we also have a privatized healthcare system so this is even more complicated. but trans people kinda have to abide by what cis people say on this matter
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>>41915076
trump was perfectly comfortable keeping them for a whole half of his first year.
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>>41915105
>it should be payment after serving. they join, get surgeries and than quit.
You're supposed to get employment benefits while you're working, idiot.
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>>41915069
> Why is GAC special?

honestly? the idea someone goes in, gets surgeries and than spends rest of service non-deployable. why can’t you just join with a neovagina?
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>>41915130
so you saying post-op trans people who joined weren’t fully paid?
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>>41915105
>she has a vagina, she has a big one. she is a female.
She's got more testosterone in her that you'll ever have. She's a trans man.

>it should be payment after serving. they join, get surgeries and than quit.
And your dumbfuck solution to this is to kick them out.

>defend america from transphobic regimes like russia snd china
LOL! You mean defend Israel from the consequences of their own actions.

>most cis people generally oppose public funding for trans healthcare.
Most cis people are fucking retarded and have no idea what the fuck they're talking about.

They get all thier information from (((the media))) and the only time (((the media))) fucking lies.
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>>41915051
the issue is cis people make up 98% of the population and you are 2%. so you kinda have to deal with the fact cis people don’t want their tax dollars to your surgeries
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>>41915143
And here's the misinformation again. Non-deployability for SRS is not that long.
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>>41915143
Because why the fuck would you?
If your parents have already paid for all the surgeries, why on earth would you join the US Military in the year of our lord two thousand and twenty five?
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>>41915168
People with any health condition are always a minority, dumbfuck. Type 1 diabetics are a similarly tiny percentage.
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>>41915168
0.5% actually.
How do you feel about taxpayer dollars going to the treatment of autism? (0.2%)
How about pancreatic cancer? (0.02%)
How about ALS? (0.0091%)
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>>41915168
So? That majority of cis people are wrong, and the resulting suffering upon trans people also goes on to make society as a whole worse.
If you told a “don’t ask don’t tell” era gay soldier to just not rock the boat, that wouldn’t lead to a just conclusion. They had to actually say that policy was atrocious, and society was made a little better as a result
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>>41915162
> She's got more testosterone in her that you'll ever have. She's a trans man.

no she isn’t and you are sexist for saying that. pic related. female bodybuilder have more testosterone than me because of the steroids they take. trannies trying to suppress women.

>And your dumbfuck solution to this is to kick them out.
if we banned SRS in 2017, this wouldn’t have happened. trump was forced.

>LOL! You mean defend Israel from the consequences of their own actions.

israel allows trans service

>Most cis people are fucking retarded and have no idea what the fuck they're talking about. They get all thier information from (((the media))) and the only time (((the media))) fucking lies.

doesn’t matter, they are the majority. healthcare in is is privatized. either you give cis people and trans people socialized healthcare or you will get this result

btw: Im the only person in my family, outside my pets, on private healthcare insurance
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>>41915221
Who forced Trump, asswipe?
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>>41915177
how long?
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>>41915240
You were given this answer previously in another thread. 3 months.
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>>41915225
congress literally.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/26/trump-transgender-military-ban-behind-the-scenes-240990

>House Republicans were planning to pass a spending bill stacked with his campaign promises, including money to build his border wall with Mexico.

>But an internal House Republican fight over transgender troops was threatening to blow up the bill. And House GOP insiders feared they might not have the votes to pass the legislation because defense hawks wanted a ban on Pentagon-funded sex reassignment operations — something GOP leaders wouldn’t give them.

>They turned to Trump, who didn’t hesitate. In the flash of a tweet, he announced that transgender troops would be banned altogether.

>Trump’s sudden decision was, in part, a last-ditch attempt to save a House proposal full of his campaign promises that was on the verge of defeat, numerous congressional and White House sources said.
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>>41914928
is this the same op who thought trannies needed blood tests every day?
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>>41915251
lies
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>>41915259
This isn't him being forced. He had an agenda he wanted to push.
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>>41915215
don’t ask don’t tell was wrong because LGB can serve openly without special medical and service accommodation

trans people need all that. hence the difference. there us s reason trump didn’t ban LGB
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>>41915204
none of those are weaponized like gender ideology. trans people were treated normally till the left pushed them everywhere
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>>41915290
> The president’s directive, of course, took the House issue a step beyond paying for gender reassignment surgery and other medical treatment. House Republicans were never debating expelling all transgender troops from the military.

that could have been prevented…
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>>41915184
> If your parents have already paid for all the surgeries, why on earth would you join the US Military in the year of our lord two thousand and twenty five?

trannies revealing their true form. we are defending america from illiberal autocratic regimes. you are lucky you aren’t in Russia or china were they throw trans people out of buildings
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>>41915190
type 1 diabetes is banned from military
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>>41915312
Gender ideology and transgenderism are not the same thing.
In fact the feminists don't seem to like us much these days.

>>41915346
The only illiberal autocratic regime I need defending from is ISRAEL.
I'm lucky I don't live in the united states where Jews use transphobia to manipulate the population into electing zionist politicians while denying trans women healthcare.

You Jews are so fucking disgusting the way you use trans politics to push your own evil fucking agenda. Get in the fucking oven you piece of slime.
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>>41915312
No we fucking weren't lmao. The "left" largely didn't care about trannies until it became the next culture war issue for rightoids.
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>>41915458
it was the left that pushed things like transgender bathroom ordinances in Houston and Charlotte in 2015/2016, which caused a right wing backlash.
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>>41915490
Texas introduced bathroom surveillance bills in 2014.
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>>41915508
in response to houston passing a bill allowing biological men in women’s bathrooms in may 2014.
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>>41915006
Thanks for the insight into how third worlders try to comprehend written text.
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>>41914928
>transgenders
really just giving yourself away immediately huh.
>maximalist demands
when chuds do it it’s “moving the Overton window!” when trannies do it, it’s somehow “self defeating”. sure bud. sure.
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>>41915539
The earlier texas bill was to put gender neutral signage on single stall restrooms in the city of Austin.
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Veterans are denied gender affirming care at the VA currently and were given substandard care very briefly with no real surgery offered, ever. This includes many veterans who served under "don't ask, don't tell" and lived in the closet quietly while we served the country. Get out, get jack shit. Make that make sense senpai?

I hope all the trans stay far far away from the US military, nothing there for you but pain and sorrow. Stay far away and live a good life.
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>>41915143
nigger, half the military never gets deployed LOL. do you even understand why our military is so fucking strong?

hint, its not the front line troops.
>>41915204
shut the fuck up, the amount of trans people who actually transition is closer to half or a third of that. maybe .15-.2% of people are trans AND transition. having dysphoria doesnt make you a tranny per se. some people its so mild they never troon out.

also like 1-2% of new births, the kids are autistic.



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