I figured it out anons. It's not about sexual orientation. It's about prenatal T and E2 exposure. Sexual orientation is a side effect. Normal males get both T and E2 prenatally. T masculinizes the body and brain. T also gets aromatized into E2 which defeminizes other parts of the brain. Furthermore, T dictates sex role behavior while E2 plays a role in gender identity and both together affect sexual orientation.Male with primary hypogonadism:>low T>low E2 from there not being much T to aromatize>mostly androphilic>female sex role behavior>undermasculinized body>female gender identity>almost always passes if transitions>classic HSTSMale with androgen receptor defect:>normal-to-high T but less effective>normal-to-high E2 from aromatization>mostly androphilic>female sex role behavior>undermasculinized and partially feminized body>muted gender identity, tends to go along with assigned sex>always passes if transitions>typically excluded from transsexualism typology research samplesNormal male:>normal T>normal E2>mostly gynephilic>male sex role behavior>masculinized body>male gender identity>can pass if transitions but tends to be clocky>classic AGPMale with reduced E2 signaling:>normal T>normal E2 but less effective>mostly gynephilic>male sex role behavior>masculinized body>female gender identity>unlikely to pass if transitions>reads as AGP because of appearance and behaviorThe majority of trans women are of the normal male type. The males with estrogen receptor defects are a minority and have the cruelest fate: female gender identity, but almost no chance of successfully transitioning to female. It's a curse.
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>>41961988What is this based off of? I imagine there may be a fifth category of sliding scale of sorts between androgen receptor defect and normal male that doesn't necessarily have poor androgen receptors but has strong T-to-E2 aromatization + strong E receptors. I've noticed this phenotype in a handful of people. Not that undermasculinized and with partial feminization prior to HRT, so notable positive androgyny. May have gyno and wider-than-male-average hips.
>>41961988Cool, now do an actual fucking study on it, have it peer-reviewed, and change the current understanding of trans people that’s been accepted by the rest of the scientific community, or fuck off.
>>41962169If you overaromatize then your liver starts pumping out more SHBG in response to the increased E2, which binds preferentially to T over E2, so maybe that would end up looking a bit like the AR defect case?Gotta be careful not to mistake it for low T combined with being overweight, which tends to happen with things like Klinefelter syndrome. Low T means that extra weight gets distributed in a more gynoid pattern, even if the underlying skeleton isn't particularly feminized.
>>41961988this is rehashed will powers subreddit shit why the fuck did you put a pic of blanchard on it
>>41962207>being a normal male who trooned out and therefore getting labeled AGP makes me angry!
>>41961988Rise up androgen defects gang.
>>41962214I've seen a kind of pattern in myself in people like me where we have some kind of "double dysphoria" (both standard dysphoria and "reverse dysphoria") and inconsistent proprioception (the same body part can seem too big or too small from moment to moment). Sort of "male identity" but one that is a little flexible and notably effeminate in mannerisms. I've encountered people with this who are mostly androphilic and those who are mostly gynephilic. My genetic profile showed that I have strong ESR1 receptors, weak ESR2 receptors, predisposition to low T, and increased aromatization of T to E. Gynoid fat patterns growing up and notable feminization of certain parts of the skeleton (hips), but still noticeablemasculinization of other parts of the body (ribs, shoulders, skull, hands).
>>41962283I've seen someone who was visibly more feminized on one side and more masculinized on the other. Literally differently sized hands. No idea what could've caused that. Biology can do some crazy stuff.
>>41962229>Ill ignore every other study on the observation and best practices in regards to trans people, and instead cherry pick from a crooked researcher that wasn’t even approaching trans people from a gender identity angle but a sexual orientation one.They need to exchange ID laws for IQ laws before people can post online.
>>41961988This is the Powers theory but I think it doesn't fit me perfectly or at least I am in multiple of his categories>medium weight>low masculinization>sky high digit ratio (index much longer)>genetic tests suggest bad aromatase and bad/weak estrogen receptors due to heterozygote>lowish T pre-hrt 300 ng/dL>early but weak puberty, resulting in shortish adult height>narcolepsy>IBS>like scary things, don't stress easily undermost circumstances but very rarely get like crazily stressed>mthr homozygote defect>lowish breast dev>exclusively gynephilic, vers>passoid>drink ~10 cans or more of diet soda a day
>>41962307I know it's common to have variance in finger digit ratios or slight differences in leg length but it's definitely weird. I'm actually trying to see Powers soon because of health issues I've had on HRT (possible NCAH, since I have high DHT relative to T, like, literally more DHT than T). However, I don't fit the normal profile of NCAH trannies (my sister did though).
