>what is INTERGEN?INTERGEN is a general for intersex people to talk to each other about their experiences or just to hang out>what is an intersex person?Intersex people are those born with any of several sex characteristics, including chromosome patterns, gonads, or genitals that do not fit typical binary notions of male or female bodies>am I intersex?We are not doctors, please seek medical advice, but dont be afraid to ask questions here to maybe understand things better >are trans people intersex?Trans people are not inherently intersex, however an intersex person can transition if they want, “neurologically intersex” is not real as being intersex pertains to the sex organs or hormonal productions >how is this /lgbt/?We share similar experiences of discrimination and social prejudice based on sex and gender norms, even though intersex is a variation of sex characteristics, not a gender identity or sexual orientation itself—————————>QOTTI over slept! Do you get enough sleep at night? How much sleep on average do you need to function? Do you have a consistent sleep routine? Anything that stops you from sleeping?
>>41989566>QOTT>I over slept! Do you get enough sleep at night? How much sleep on average do you need to function? Do you have a consistent sleep routine? Anything that stops you from sleeping?I sleep on average like 4-5hrs a night and wake up constantly due to night terrors, I need more sleep I’m super tired a lot of the time I do not get enough sleep ever
>>41989582I think I average 6 or so but recently my sleep frequently gets disrupted where I wake up in the middle of the night and go back to sleep again. Having new housemates with irregular schedules probably isn't helping. On the weekends I usually get more.I used to have much, much worse sleep issues that were miraculously and entirely accidentally solved by hormones.
>>41990236I feel like j never slept when I was younger, but that could have been because growing up we had to share beds- poverty reasons but I kinda think it was because I’d have sleep seizures
>>41990709>had to share bedsExtremely glad that wasn't me. It was bad enough my family would watch TV into the WTF hours lol.
>>41992081I grew up in a weird home ngl
Today feels like such a lazy saturday
>qottI'e been hypervigilant my whole life, and during teens honed my insomnia with military method. but a few months ago I realised the absurdity + got too depressed to sustain it effectively... now living off of random siesta times and lengths. blegh :þpooping and scrolling rn before such a nap
>>41993355I’ve forced myself to stop napping, just because it messes up what little sleep schedule I have
>>41993293The wind chill is absolutely brutal tonight so I'm staying my ass home.>>41993433That's probably the answer but lol I gotta get my whole household onboard.
it's snowing. I love winter and winter clothing, indoors and out.
>>41993484I would say give everybody sleeping pills so they get on the same schedule but that’s a crime and most likely morally wrong so don’t >>41993603As much as I (like to) complain about the cold and snow I kinda love it too, I love being super cozy and warming up after being outside
Goodnight see you at 130 am
>>41995073I've thought about waking up and running around the house making an alarm sound or a really obnoxious siren sound until everyone wakes up.
>>41996810Yeah that’s way better than the idea I had earlier… less criminal for sure at least lol
Good morning INTERGEN :3
Almost done with work, it’s 16degrees outside brrrr
>>41998948Yeah I'm not enjoying this frozen wasteland DLC tbqh.
>>41999582I’m done with work… nobody told me we were done I realized it when a customer came up to me and I realized I was the only one unloading boxes still :p but I found this in my car so that’s cool
Bunny bump
>>41999670Your life is at least 90% adorable trinkets isn't it?>>42001093And drawings!
>>42001841I can’t help myself that this is how my life is
Having pretty much the laziest possible weekend. It's pretty great.Anyone do anything interesting?
>>42003773I’m watching berserk 1997 and doing laundry, but later planing my work week :)
none of you are intersex and this thread is a disgusting excuse of Munchausen attention seeking. Intersex people want nothing to do with you mentally ill faggots.
>>42003857Okay tourist
>>42003857I met an unusually rare intersex person recently and they said "hello fellow person of gender!" When they greeted me. Intersex issues are different from trans issues but you can't expect intersex people to broadly hate trannies
>>42003857>nobody is ever intersexDamn I didn't realize my state senator posted here.>>42003838That's cool! Part of me is thinking of setting things up and redoing my kinda lame pfp. Kind of a pain in the ass though which is why I haven't already done it.
>>42005736I’m sure it won’t be too bad to take a new one
Goodnight INTERGEN
It feels weird being a trans girl with a wombI'll probably just get it removed since it doesn't work but shits weird
>>42007603I guess the fun part is I need to redo my hair first, which has gotten weird to schedule in a household of people none of whom are on any kind of sane schedule.I'll figure it out though.
>>42009063Have you talked to any surgeons about it yet?>>42009632Tbh I need to get over my anxiety about going to get my hair cut by other people and stop doing it myself
>>42003857you are actually fucking retarded ill treatment of intersex people is at the center of homophobia/transphobia/etc. it is 1000000% in our best interests (as intersex people) to work towards progressing queer rights--we *are* queer and homophobic laws/society or any type of "gender role" system deeply impact us. pic related: closing statement from an article about being intersex & the possible connection of gender expression and sexuality in intersex individuals, published in The Gay Liberator, 1970s
>>42010500I'm lowkey scared to get any surgeries so I haven't yet but I should;; Do you think it would be better to get a vaginoplasty first or a hysterectomy first?
>>42010542related: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40830539-queer-embodiment>Merging critical theory, autobiography, and sexological archival research, Queer Embodiment provides insight into what it means to have a legible body in the West. Hil Malatino explores how intersexuality became an anomalous embodiment assumed to require correction and how contesting this pathologization can promote medical reform and human rights for intersex and trans people.>Malatino traces both institutional and interpersonal failures to dignify non–sexually dimorphic bodies and examines how the ontology of gender difference developed by modern sexologists conflicts with embodied experience. Malatino comprehensively shows how gender-normalizing practices begin at the clinic but are amplified thereafter through mechanisms of institutional exclusion and through Eurocentric culture’s cis-centric and bio-normative notions of sexuality, reproductive capacity, romantic partnership, and kinship.>Combining personal accounts with archival evidence, Queer Embodiment presents intersexuality as the conceptual center of queerness, the figure through which nonnormative genders and desires are and have been historically understood. We must reconsider the medical, scientific, and philosophical discourse on intersexuality underlying contemporary understandings of sexed selfhood in order to understand gender anew as a process of becoming that exceeds restrictive binary logic.>>42003857read a book bitch nigga
>>42005377> they said "hello fellow person of gender!" When they greeted meI said growing up I was mostly around the trans kids because we were both "gender weirdos" and similar stuff.
>>42010549I’m not well versed enough but fme i would discuss it first with your surgeon for vaginoplasty to see if getting a hysterectomy before or after would complicate the surgery since they would know best. I would explain my own experience with me planning later surgeries however I don’t think it would apply/benefit your experience
>>42010542Literally trying to split the alphabet is a rightoid psyop. Sure it's a broad collection of people with often only vaguely overlapping interests, but one thing that solidly unites us is the right hates all of us. They are more than willing to sacrifice intersex people to go after trans people, and their ultimate goal is to roll gay and even women's rights back to the 1850s.We don't have to always get along or agree with the "trans is a kind of neurological intersex" posters but nobody should be falling for the world's least subtle psyop.
>>42010911You can't just say that because now I'm curious lol
>>42010500I was nervous about that for a long time but a friend recommended someone who's really nice. I'm actually out to her and she's been amazing about it.
>>42011046Fair, so years ago I was advised to get my internal testes removed due to risk of cancer with them being non functional and me having a lot of lower abdominal pain they weren’t necessary to keep anyway. The procedure was more intensive than the the usual orchi, and like it was done, I have a tiny scar, coolio, ngl recovery took about 2 months, so recently (like last two years) been trying to get srs, sadly the only local surgeons near me won’t because of being as small as my penis is and no scrotal tissue, so not enough materials to work with :/ there’s also concern over me not having much feeling/ sensation in that area so that’s another concern, been looking for a while to find a good surgeon tho still hopeful :))>been in talks with a few, but there are still problems they want me to address and looking into using intestinal tissue instead, which reminds me I need to schedule a colonoscopy soon :/
>>42013815That’s great that’s she’s cool like that:) I know my hangups are from dumb childhood trauma of home punishment haircuts (long hair has to be cut because it’s gay, and feminine, and if you have long hair you’re on drugs) :p
>>42013939I am sorry :-/ But yeah I get it.I am so ready for today to be over.
>>42015240Me too, it’s snowing … bunnies and leopards out there> I don’t know of an equivalent of it’s raining cats and dogs :/
>>42015293>bunnies and leopardsThose must me some HUGE flakes!
>>42016096It’s increasing my drive home to over an hour lol stay warm everyone
>>41989566our best evidence suggests that being trans is a form of neurological intersex
