you'll change your mind again when public opinion changes

>>42008173
no, i have a pretty good idea of what’s wrong with me mentally and why everything happened
idk if anybody is “actually trans”, but i know that i shouldn’t have been allowed to transition, and a lot of people i know (especially ftms) are in a similar position
not sure if anybody is “actually trans” desu i only know like one trans person who i think is actually okay for having gone through with it
the whole thing operates as a cult … not to minimize my own responsibility in fucking up my life though

>>42008137
>>42008214
Thanks for all this boring information of no importance. Not sure what anybody is supposed to do with it.

>>42008137
>>42008214
you didn't have to experience hell and thus take feeling normal for granted
retarded bitch
the worst part is that even if you decide to destroy yourself for a couple years you could still probably recover and retroon even though you didn't even deserve your first chance
>t. miserable trverepper

>>42008234
i’m venting on an anonymous internet forum instead of bothering people i know and care about you retarded faggot
if you don’t like reading posts then log off

Early age death

>>42008137
>it’s not like i really want to be masculine or anything, i just wish none of this ever happened in the first place
Kinda sounds like you had a bad experience because of being a tranny and now you want to take it all back because of the trauma, but without the context of what you think is wrong with you mentally (>>42008214) idk.

>>42008340
believe it or not you don’t need to be hyper masc to be okay with being male, gender dysphoria is just a symptom of an actual mental illness
>>42008245
you don’t know what hell is, just get on antipsychotics and pick up running and you’ll be fine
>>42008313
i’m not suicidal i’m just confused and disappointed and a bit angry

>>42008380
Sure, that’s why I qualified that as an opinion and wanted to hear more about your “pretty good idea of what’s wrong” to better understand.

>>42008380
you haven't said why you wish you hadn't transitioned - are you saying you don't experience dysphoria? what do you think dysphoria is a manifestation of, if it isn't its own thing? would you want to detransition if it weren't difficult, and would you be fine aging as a man and becoming more masculine as you age? why do you think that your psychiatrists pushed it on you?

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>>42008137
>it was just pushed on me by psychiatrists
elaborate. i don't really believe this at face value

>>42008408
oh, bpd, bipolar ii, and ptsd mainly (but ptsd is only post-transition)
mild autism too but that really is mainly just sensory for me
like i said above, i think 99 times out of 100 what we call “gender dysphoria” is just a symptom of something else and that it shouldn’t be used to funnel children into this cult
>>42008434
see above
the biggest issue with detransition for me is that it’d probably irrevocably fuck up my life, just like transitioning did
i pass and nobody i talk to irl aside from my gf and roommate and doctors know i’m a tranny, so i’m not sure what the benefit would be
i regret transition 1 so doing what would basically just be transition 2 doesn’t seem like a great idea
>>42008443
psychiatrists and the internet—both played major roles
i think i was confused as a kid because i was quiet and not very masculine and prone to mental illness, and because i didn’t really have any male role models in my life and because i was very online (especially tumblr) that confusion got taken up and transformed into “gender dysphoria”, and then medicalized and made more and more of an issue
like i said above though i don’t deny my own role in this

>>42008380
> i’m not suicidal i’m just confused and disappointed and a bit angry
You just sound like someone who’s nearing the end of life knowingly or unknowingly

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>>42008137
>>42008380
So you get traumatized and suddenly believe you know better than every other tranny’s experience? You’re even regurgitating the same talking points of “just use anti-depressants/psychotics instead of HRT and you’ll be fine, GD isn’t real” bullshit. You can speak for yourself all you want, even if it’s influenced from an unfortunate traumatic experience, but you didnt suddenly have a revelation of understanding how we all feel and experience our lives being trans.

I don’t even disagree with your point that there are definitely people that can get streamlined too fast into transitioning when they should be undergoing the reasonable length of psychiatric observation and pre-HRT transitioning steps to see if transitioning is for them or not, instead of jumping the gun. But you can go fuck yourself if you’re hiding behind your trauma to throw every other tranny under the bus.

If you want to detrans then do it. But you should at minimum be seeing a therapist for your trauma alone, and discussing your experiences about your past psychiatrists with them, instead of acting as the arbiter for all trannies.

>>42008380
>antipsychotics
that drug makes you a psychopath tho

>>42008491
i’m in my early 20s anon i’m not 80
i’m definitely not the healthiest person but unless i get hit by a bus or something i doubt i’m dying anytime soon
>>42008500
nobody knows trannies like i know trannies

>>42008478
If that’s your biggest issue with detransitioning, what’s your strongest reason for considering it? So far, what you’ve said seems to indicate that you only want to do it because of a sense that you shouldn’t have transitioned rather than because you think it will improve your life in some way, but is there more to it than that?

>>42008516
>cis woman gets raped by a man
>she proceeds to claim she knows men better than anyone else and that they’re all rapists
>BPDemon gets traumatized by another dipshit tranny
>claims she knows better than every single tranny
You know trannies from your inconceivably small scope of interacting with them. What happened to you is fucked up, but again go fuck yourself for thinking you know how dysphoria is for the rest of us or that you somehow have done enough research to know a med combination that would actually treat GD better than how the majority of us that are on HRT for years and feel better for it do. Keep your schizoid flat-earth like thinking to the mental ward.

>>42008137
>tripfag (narcissist) cannot comprehend why anyone would ever do something for any reason other than attention seeking and social validation
a common story

>>42008214
Transgenderism is just peter pan syndrome

>>42008478
are you aware that you don't have a good grasp of your own emotional and mental state? you said you have a pretty good idea whats wrong with you mentally and why everything happened, you have a laundry list of diagnosis, but you're obviously deeply confused and are retreating into some objectively-detached-from-reality takes that 99% of people with gender dysphoria have fallen for a gender scam. this is called displacement. hopefully you can figure it all out but if i were as confused as you i would be doing some soul searching instead of ruminating about a life that could've been while you deny your own feelings. i asked if you would want to detransition if it weren't difficult, and you just said a bunch of stuff about how it would be difficult. hope things get better for you either way.

>>42008514
they turn you into an npc

>>42008528
well, being trans is definitely bad and perhaps evil
but more seriously, i wonder if it would alleviate some of the regret
i’d still be castrated and probably look a bit off, but long term i wonder if i’d be happier
also being trans makes everything in your life more complicated
>>42008542
i’ve interacted with many many many trannies
even though i’ve cut the vast majority of them out of my life, still some of my best friends are trans (and many in similar situations to me)
anyways whatever med combo would reduce your symptoms probably depends on the underlying pathology, so i’d start there
maybe look into trans-skeptical psychiatrists? idk if there’s a good database on finding people who aren’t ideologically poisoned on this issue though
>>42008556
i worry saying too much more about how i believe transgenderism and gender dysphoria actually function might be a bit too revealing
>>42008564
you aren’t a player character anon

>>42008601
A bit too revealing of what? Also, it’s kind of crazy to say that some of your best friends are trans while positing that being trans might be evil, I don’t know about you but I wouldn’t want to be friends with a bunch of people I think might be evil.

>>42008601
you're either so deep in denial that you don't want to address anyone's genuine questions (do you want to age as a man and become more masculine?) or you're just a troll. if your psychology is indistinguishable from a troll its time to log off. getting into science denial isn't going to fix your life

>>42008614
too revealing for my psyche, also maybe too revealing for my personal life
i’m fine being friends with evil people, really my only standards for friendship are that i like them personally and they won’t be cruel to me or beg for money or whatever
>>42008619
i don’t want to be super masculine, i don’t want to be super feminine, but none of that has anything to do with biological sex
also “science” isn’t something you can just blindly follow

is this willow

>>42008214
>i took extensive and difficult steps to make my life harder
>for no reason at all
>now i will repeat generic media talking points about it
dunno what to tell you anon, but im sorry you got groomed if that is what happened. whatever you decide to do next, it will get easier i promise.
>>42008478
can you elaborate on what you mean by "prone to mental illness"? there are many mental illnesses, which have nothing to do with one another. people don't typically describe themselves in blanket terms like that.

>>42008644
If anything you aren’t being revealing enough with your psyche for people to understand where you’re coming from.

>>42008644
i didn't ask if you wanted to be super masculine, i asked if you wanted to age as a man and become more masculine, because that's what happens when you're on testosterone. your skull develops your whole life. you have the same blind antipsychiatry streak that middle aged men get though, so maybe it'd be the right move.

>>42008672
idk if i’d go on testosterone, i’d probably just lower my estrogen and get a mastectomy
if i went on testosterone it’d be a very low dose as well, i don’t want to be anything really, idk what i am and that’s why i’m confused
>>42008656
it runs in my family i mean, i was depressed a lot as a kid, and obviously things got worse over time
>>42008665
i’m asking what i should do, not for therapy

>>42008601
it sounds like the one getting ideologically poisoned is you

>>42008711
everyone on both sides of the tranny culture war is ideologically poisoned
i just regret and have this awful feeling that my life is permanently ruined for nothing

>>42008699
And what you should do is dependent on your mental state. Also, if you really believe you weren’t genuinely dysphoric with a male hormone profile, why wouldn’t you want to go on a standard dose? But all things being equal, if you really want to have little to no sex hormones, make sure you look into the potential adverse effects of that in the long term.

>>42008737
how am i supposed to know if i was dysphoric? does dysphoria even exist separate from other problems? i just don’t want to be anything
but like i said, ruining my life once was retarded— doing it again can’t be sure that that would have a good outcome

>>42008601
You’re <24 yrs old and are going to claim you’ve interacted with more trannies than most of us that have been in the community for 2 decades more?? Do you not hear how mentally compromised you sound, and that you’re instinctively looking for justifications for why either transitioning is wrong for you or why you were traumatized? If you’re going to argue scientific approaches to treatment and understanding of a vulnerable group, maybe quit pulling unsupported forms of treatment that have an actual list of resulting in many other trans people committing suicide due to conversion therapy tactics/ignore gender dysphoria’s only treatment being HRT, out of your ass.

All of your “evidence” in knowing best for treating trans people are pulled strictly from your anecdotes, of someone in their early 20s, whose not even an authority on the field outside of experiencing transitioning. You are no different than a flat earther arguing the world is flat.

>>42008720
yeah your posts read like someone who spent hours every single day reading anti-trans political theory for self harm until you internalized it.
turn off your phone and go on a hike with your girlfriend or something

>>42008759
i’ve been in this for maybe like close to a decade now, and i should point out i am religious
>>42008775
reading anti trans stuff doesn’t feel like self harm, and i rarely engage with those people anyways
if i were never trans, i would probably be much more pro trans

>>42008137
Primo: When i trooned out you didn't know how to spell in your native tongue yet. It's ridiculous to claim you know trannies better than anyone here.

Secundo: Talk to a therapist. A more experienced one. Even an explicitly antitrans one. The only condition is that she/he is older. You need old time mentorship, OP

>>42008757
The bare minimum of dysphoria is having a strong aversion to identifying with your sex assigned at birth; particularly the physical characteristics. You describe in earlier posts that you’re probably some expression of non-binary (though i’d also weigh this against your previous encounters of being assaulted), and so would prefer not to fully go in either direction, but it’s hard to tell if it’s out of desire for an atypical gender identity, or if it’s an expression of your depression or possible disassociation with your body.

Your gender identity is a journey of self-discovery and what you feel fits you. If you think continuing development as a woman feels wrong, then adjust. If you also feel comfortable fully becoming a man, then just set your goal to be something androgynous. It doesn’t have to involve hrt or surgeries or anything, and can just be another wardrobe and name change. Experiment and find what works for you.

>>42008792
Been in what for a decade? Transitioning for a decade? Or interacting with the trans community for a decade? You sincerely believe you had a strong mature sense of self in your teens to add that to your anecdote of experiencing the trans community to somehow still know what’s best for them? You still ignored the rest of my post, convenient much?

>im also religious
Oh yeah like that totally doesn’t influence someone’s opinion on a polarizing topic such as queer people. You need to at minimum recognize your biases before acting like an unhinged authority on a matter you’re still not qualified to be the speaker of.

>>42008824
been transitioning for like a little under a decade, been interacting with trans people for a good while longer
also i don’t really want to listen to the reddit atheist type anti-religious people

>>42008841
And no one wants to hear someone who’s justifications for restricting medical care for others is rooted in an imaginary, jealous, and hypocritical entity to discriminate from the lens of bigoted humans, instead of known scientific research in the field.

Why don’t you talk to doctors and researchers and formulate a paper if you’re that unbelievably confident your half-assed take on trans care will withstand peer-review and entirely resolve the the existence of trans people?

>>42008860
>Why don’t you talk to doctors and researchers and formulate a paper if you’re that unbelievably confident your half-assed take on trans care will withstand peer-review and entirely resolve the the existence of trans people?
that would out me as a tranny, and i’d probably also be cancelled and harassed by trans rights activists (just based on how detransphobic so many people are)
also if you feel attacked by what i’m saying here, you need to reevaluate
it just feels like i’m stranded on an island, it’s all bad anon

>>42008478
>and then medicalized and made more and more of an issue
what does this mean? this is super vague and doesn't explain what major role your psychiatrist played to "push" you into transitioning. if anything you got gatekept for having to see a psychiatrist in order to transition, as opposed to the informed consent model

>>42008841
are you actually religious or 2025 culture war pop-religious?
God doesn’t hate you for being a tranny, only the retards treating religion like team sports do

>>42008895
>caring about being outed as a tranny when you don’t even believe you’re trans to begin with
The only argument for this is public harassment, to which you should just not be using social media to begin with, and alternatively you can remain anonymous while having anyone else you trust, specifically like a therapist, push your supposed cure for trans people, to the corresponding universities/medical professionals if again you’re extremely confident in your unscientifically proven claims.
>feel attacked
I’m irk’d by dumbasses claiming they’re authorities on medical treatments when they don’t hold a phd in the related field, are basing their claims entirely on feels and anecdotes, and are insistent on knowing better than those who ARE an authority in the field. It’s infuriating because you’re an exemplar of the woefully uneducated, lacking in critical thought, dumbass that does the equivalent of pouring gasoline on a fire.

Not once do you make a sound argument following the scientific method, but have strictly made claims to your conclusion via the emotionally charged trauma and anecdotes in your singular life and word of mouth of people that you can twist to your argument. You’re disingenuous as hell.

>>42008916
i’m actually religious, not just consumed by culture war
i despise culture war bullshit
>>42008898
you have to see a psych if you’re a teenager
i go to them, i say i’m confused … they tell me i’m trans, everyone i know on tumblr and ig tells me i need to transition, turns a minor issue into a huge neurosis and becomes a part of my identity (which is inherently unstable because of bpd, that’s a big symptom), it just spirals and you wind up in a cult
>>42008962
> you should just not be using social media to begin with
i don’t use social media really anymore, aside from an account where my irls follow me

>>42008980
fantastic. get the help you need. figure out if you need to stop transitioning or not. and quit espousing like you’re a doctor when you’re not.

we're nearing 2026. be a nonbinary twink lesbian

>>42008994
> quit espousing like you’re a doctor when you’re not
why on earth would i trust a doctor with this???
>>42009010
being “nonbinary” is probably worse than being a tranny
everyone is nonbinary, because gender is a social construct

>>42009017
why on earth should anyone trust somebody that provides no defined and tested evidence to their claims? Out of the two options: why shouldn’t everyone trust the researchers who did do the research over the emotionally compromised <24 yr old who doesn’t even have a degree in the field?

You willfully ignoring the points being made or just trolling?

>>42009017
>gender is a social construct
you already believe you'll never be a man, you don't want to be masculine and was feminine enough to transition lmao gender is a social construct to people like you, which is exactly why you should rebrand as nonbinary

>>42008137
>i WAs GrxdOOmed
Still can’t even admit that you’re an idiot.

>”I’m self-admittedly an unstable bpdemon who is extremely vulnerable to social pressures but this time my radical shift in identity was totally legit and if you disagree with me projecting it onto you then you’re in a cult”

>>42008137
I’ve been lurking here for even longer but I ended up repping instead of trooning, mostly due to cowardice and lack of anyone in my irlife who would have been remotely supportive. It’s my single biggest regret in life, my anatomical dysphoria just got worse and worse and worse until I regressed into the dysfunctional alcoholic neet that I am today. There are still people who I haven’t cut off yet that love and support my man persona, but being loved as someone who you fundamentally don’t wanna be doesn’t actually feel fulfilling at all. Waking up to this feels like absolute shit every single morning and I really doubt that I’m gonna be alive 5 years from now.
Your life seems to have turned out relatively well aside from outside trauma and bpd bullshit, you even have a girlfriend who loves you for who you are. In my opinion the path you chose was the correct one, or maybe all roads just lead to regret for some people.

>>42008980
>you have to see a psych if you’re a teenager
its fucked up how teens get gatekept. but i know some who got informed consent. its possible in some places
>i go to them, i say i’m confused … they tell me i’m trans,
c'mon now. i'd say you're not telling the full story here but that would imply you told a story at all. that's not how this process works

>>42009455
take hrt and boymode. mental effects alone are worth. if you plan to kys anyway, might as well make a last ditch effort just to see what its like. thats what got me to do it. "im gonna kms anyway so i have nothing to lose and everything to gain by trooning out" was my thought process

>>42008478
>bpd, bipolar ii, and ptsd
this cocktail of mental illness can only be experienced by a true femalebrained retard. if you were a man you would just stoically accept your fate and move on. you're a tranny through and through.

>>42008653
i was thinking it's amy

>>42009091
> Still can’t even admit that you’re an idiot.
not groomed into transition