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i made this thread last night >>42008137 and never received a good answer as to what i should do
obviously a lot of people were upset because they’re very attached to their trans identity and detransphobia is a big problem, i was expecting that, but some of the other comments saying that regretting transition is a symptom of my mental illness are just incomprehensible to me
like i said, i think dysphoria and cross-sex identity are usually symptoms of something else, and i’m in treatment for my problems and have been doing much better for like 1.5 years now
the other thing is i don’t really know any successful mtftm detransitioners, i know one guy who turned out fine but everyone else (especially the people who get boosted by culture war media) are deranged
i don’t even know if detransition is possible, or if it’s worth it, i just know i regret my transition and don’t really believe in transgenderism anymore
does anybody have a serious suggestion about what i should do? or how i should cope with being this way for the rest of my life?
i’ll check back in a bit after i’m done working out
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anybody? help?
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>>42015404
reddit r/detrans might help and there's a tiktok community
youtube.com/watch?v=AwSS8QoWu0M
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didnt read all that why cant you just get a haircut, get on T, and present as a man
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>>42015404
I read threads like this and they make me glad I transitioned in my mid 30s. There wasn't and still isn't a shadow of a doubt that this is the path I need to take. I tried literally everything else first.
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>>42015404
you’re getting pushback from the last thread because you were insistent on knowing the trans experience better than other trans people and summed it up with “you’re all brainwashed and we shouldn’t be transitioning”. You were welcome to state it wasn’t for you and asking advice to detrans, but you came off as hostile to the rest of the community by exclaiming trannies are mentally ill, like a typical chud would. Stop being the speaker for us.

You stated in your last thread that you’re probably hesitant with detransitioning due to your relationship hinging on you being fem/lesbian, and being outed. But that shits unhealthy for both you and your partner. If you need to detrans then do it and your partner will either be with you or not, but you shouldn’t be inauthentic to yourself and for others.
>worried about being out
you’d get less flack if you’re “returning” to being cis male. At worse probably looked at as an adventurous/feminine male, but you’ll at least be a little happier in your body.
>can I just cope repress?
lol no. You’ll want to off yourself as time goes on. If you’re serious with detransitioning (despite it also being influenced from being assaulted by a creepy tranny) then you need to do it for yourself as well as to not deceive your partner, and live with the consequences (if any) that come from that.
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>>42015404
I'm sorry to hear that anon. To be completely honest I've also recently been having my own doubts. Although I'm in a relationship with a man I love and cherish, I do wonder what life would have been like as a boy. I get hit on by women a noticeable amount, far more than I ever was as a boy, and it's so peculiar because they like me for the exact same weirdness and emotionally and eccentricities that as a boy made me repulsive to girls. I do certainly wonder if I just tricked myself on the incel to trans girl pipeline as a teenager, but at this point I'm almost a decade in and post srs so there's no real use ruminating on it too much, but ruminate I do nonetheless.

None of this is to say I regret it, the entire process of self discovery and asserting myself over my physical form has been enlightening and empowering, and I reckon I've done more introspection and self searching than most people do in their entire lives, so that's pretty cool I suppose.

Idk. I wish I could be more feminine and womanly and just put it all behind me but I'll sort of always be in twinkhon limbo I think, which is it's own special sort of hell, but its mostly tolerable.
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>>42017750
> I wish I could be more feminine and womanly and just put it all behind me but I'll sort of always be in twinkhon limbo I think, which is it's own special sort of hell, but its mostly tolerable.
i’m sorry you’re in a similar way
i’m not in the exact same situation—i pass and stuff, but really i think in my heart i’m just completely androgynous
but what matters is sex, and because i fucked up as a teenager i’ll now be forever divorced from my sex
>>42017722
> you shouldn’t be inauthentic to yourself
idk what being “authentic to myself” means
that’s just trannyspeak imo
>>42017491
same reasons it’s hard for people to transition in the first place basically
+ like i said above, i’m confused—i don’t know what i am, i just wish i hadn’t gotten myself roped into this cult and never transitioned
it’s all bad anon
>>42017605
trooning out in your 30s sounds worse desu since you’ll probably never pass and you’ve lived all of your life and made so many connections as a man
similar to why i have trouble knowing what to do here lmao
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>>42018228
In my heart I think I'm androgynous too, but there's no real room for third sex acceptance right now and any sort of push for it has been poisoned by theyfabs and john50s insisting 3rd sex spaces aren't good enough for them. I generally pass but it'd be nice to be able to comfortably exist in the middle for sure.

I think your attitude kinda sucks here though. It's not a cult, it's a medical decision YOU made and you need to take ownership of that. It's okay to make mistakes, and it's okay to redefine yourself as you discover new things about yourself, but blaming others is weakness.

Your physical sex is just a permutation of the meat vessel that bears your mind. Continue to customize it as necessary. If that means easing off the gas for femininity then do so. You've already transitioned one way and know the process isn't overnight. You have time to slowly redefine yourself and try on new components of self expression so stop being such a pussy about it and express yourself authentically.
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>>42018303
> I think your attitude kinda sucks here though. It's not a cult, it's a medical decision YOU made and you need to take ownership of that. It's okay to make mistakes, and it's okay to redefine yourself as you discover new things about yourself, but blaming others is weakness.
read some of the stuff i said in >>42008137 , i explained my situation in more detail there
i don’t exculpate myself, i am at least partially responsible for the mistakes i made, but that doesn’t mean that the “trans community” and TRAs don’t operate as a cult
>express yourself authentically
literally wtf does that even mean
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>>42018611
It means stop being a pussy and just dress and behave and body mod however you feel most comfortable without being afraid that other people won't like it.
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>>42018646
do you not understand what the word “confused” means??? i spent years here as a tripfag but i swear to god somehow everyone has only gotten more obtuse since then
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>>42018228
>being authentic is trannyspeak
holy christ, not everything is trying to manipulate you, it’s more specific to therapy and self-esteem than it is about trans shit. It just means you should live your life for yourself and do what makes you feel comfortable. Quit trying to perform for others. Be fucking authentic. The term is also used with trans people because it’s the same struggle: quit repping and just self-express the way you want to.

Being inauthentic leads to living a miserable life, never feeling like you deserve happiness, or that you’re just an object for others to use.

If you want to write it off as trannyspeak yet sit here dumbfounded on how to detrans, then lay in the bed you’re making.
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>>42018228
>>42018782
>im confused
Then you need to just experiment and try things to see what you will like, instead of doing nothing. You don’t want to transition into a woman, then don’t. Start wearing either clothes tailored for men. And/or when you figure out you don’t vibe with that, then try other forms of outfits: androgynous or lightly fem stuff. Or even just non-gender specific clothing.

See if you want to gain a bit more muscle and lose some fat. Or feel out if you want a medium. You have to go an experiment if you want to stop being confused.

Change other aspects of your life that you’ve gendered. If you don’t like it, stop doing it and do something different. Literally explore yourself and figure out who you want to be and how you want to express that self.
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bro just detroon you're gonna be fine trust me
it's a good feeling leaving all of this behind
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>>42015404
Take test and see how you feel, is my advice.
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>>42015404
>don’t really believe in transgenderism anymore
I genuinely don't understand what people mean when they say stuff like this. Unless you were one of the dogmatic "trans women are literally women" retards there is no inherent trans belief system to stop believing in. You physically modified your body to be closer to what you wanted it to be, that's the objective reality.
You signed up to be a eunuch with female secondary sex characteristics and got exactly that. Nothing about that is inherently wrong or evil. Would you really rather have turned into a full-on man and dealt with that sort of body? Imagine how nasty it feels to have hairs grow out of your face every day for example. I only had to taste a relatively short and minor bit of that, but it felt absolutely disgusting for me. And that's just one of the many many components of masculinization.
I do understand if you like women and regret not saving sperm first, but what's done is done on that front. Good and truly loving adoptive parents are some of the most saintly people around imo, and if you really want kids that would probably be the best path to take There's also stuff like surrogacy but I do have ethical problems with that.
>i think dysphoria and cross-sex identity are usually symptoms of something else
I do believe that's demonstrably true in some cases, but for me and I assume others it was the other way around if anything. It does feel a bit insulting when you basically just shit all over my own experiences because they don't align with yours, that's probably why other people got mad at your post.
>how i should cope with being this way for the rest of my life?
Is it really that bad? For me it was a lot better than the only alternative. You can still find a comfy place for yourself in the world as a tranny, not everyone is born to be a normie.
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>>42018228
>same reasons it’s hard for people to transition in the first place basically
its not hard, just try shit and if you like it do more
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>>42015404
>I have gender dysphoria
>the cure is transitioning
>I transition
>I realize I'm a mega retard and I don't actually have gender dysphoria
>I want to detransition
>I don't just do it and make a million threads about it instead because I just have to, ok!?!
My advice anon is, that you have to simply admit that you are a mega retard who stole resources of actual trans people and maybe you should stay far away from social media because it's clear you are not able to have personal thoughts and need others to dictate your life for you, the proof is the existence of this thread right here.
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>>42022178
>actual trans people
probably not a thing—most people are just mentally ill, some in a cult, some idk
and i don’t know what i am, am i a man? am i a woman ?
srry jf less comprehensible, drugs kicking in …
>>42019904
> Would you really rather have turned into a full-on man and dealt with that sort of body? Imagine how nasty it feels to have hairs grow out of your face every day for example.

idk how that would have felt for me since it never happened to me
maybe i could have been like morrissey
i don’t z@wan”to
be a man; i don’t want
to
be a woman
really i’d just rather be
morning
*me+ ?
but i don’t know who i am
i’m
completely just nothing


save
yourselves from being me


who am i
am
i a man or a woman


just
help
(without
the dumb trans ideology bullshit—nobody is “really trans” desu
)
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yk i thought you guys would maybe have been some more help :8!;4 tttt was slay more skeptical of his bs, but now you’re all redddit fags attached to their zmoyomx
i just want to be me, not you
but who am i ? what hsllw ed tk me to make me this way ? doctors and drugs and internet commh jokes
fuck
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>>42022220
you’re spiraling, and posting online and getting responses from other people isn’t helping you. idk why the fuck you thought drugs would help or why you would want to do that while arguing online about your very identity.

it’s okay to think about this stuff, but sit on these thoughts for a little bit (at least a week) before you post again
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>>42022220
>youre all mentally ill
>also plz give me advice on my identity
bro look in the mirror, the only mentally ill one here is you.
>proceeds to type dribble in an inebriated haze
maybe stop blaming an entire vulnerable group for your own decisions and trauma?



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