grace by which i stand edition previous: >>41986907
>>42017674take your HRT, retards
>>42017674watch animation memes, buddies
>>42017674man i haven't seen this dude in years
>>42017674do ppl think that picrel is really less pathetic and humiliating than being an agp tranny
>>42017706>animation memeslike what?
>>42017726go on youtube.com and search up animation memes i'm sure you'll find something
>>42017721both are humiliating. there is no escape from humiliation for reppers
>>42017721its just sad but not creep and gross like an agp tranny (other than hunter schafer i guess)
>>42017746"semen retention" is such a gross phrase
>>42017674>no qott: :(>>42017749i dont think you have to start on pills i did because i really didnt want to do injections but the pills were not working so i decided fuck this may try to do it all the way if i was going to try at all. now doing my injection is not that bad.
>>42017706Back in my day we had AMVs.
>>42017721picrel is inwardly pathetic and humiliating, while being a tranny is outwardly, so it's all just a trade off
>>42017800It's also not been shown to have any benefit after 10 days.
>>42017706
The dysphoria is currently at its low point. If I trooned out I would probably experience reverse dysphoria right now. This is the Cycle that's kept me stuck in the repping stage this whole time. I think about all the people in my life who would turn on me for being this way, and my unwillingness to sacrifice physical strength and sexual health to feed into this illness. My mother wouldnt even believe I had a feminine side
"transitioning" is so dumb when you think about it.>low chance of success if you start after puberty>forces you to become part of a minority hated worldwide>doesn't even do what you want, you become a shoddy copy of the gender you want to be>somehow troons will say you're the dumb one for having second thoughtstrue transition is still impossible with current tech, there's simply nothing that can be done to help men become women. repping gets easier when you realize transitioning is not even a thing yet lol
>>42018053>voregle.pngDON'T CALL HIM THAT
>>42018089What should I call him instead?
>>42017800>fermented anal nectar t. Smeggy Meggy (Grool Griefer, PhD)
>>42018107his divine self, the lord god almighty, bringer of light, all-powerful sovereign ruler of the universesomething like that
>>42018180this is a new way for me to want to throw up while reading this thread, I'll give you that
>>42017674out of alcohol again but I don't wanna leave my house to drive to the storeblech
>>42018208I think that's too big for the filename field.
>>42018247i'm out too. i'm lying in bed trying to sleep until the shop opens in 6 hours
just be a very feminine man without taking hrt, and letting yourself date the same birth sex if that appeals to you!
>>42017833>no qottFirst thing I thought too.>>42018062>repping gets easier whenThere is no accurate way to finish this statement with anything but a question mark.>>42018247>>42018286What would you get, frens? I just got some White Claws. I can't be a girl, but at least I can drink like one.
>>42018286hang in there anon>>42018319liquor store is farther and closes earlier so probably some port wine or a pack of beers if they have anything particularly goodotherwise vodka mixed with lemonade is hard to beat
>>42018062>repping gets easierPomni wouldn't say this.
>>42018377it gets easier if you abandon being a slave to gender roles
>>42018403honestly it makes it worsei try to do things like act more fem and paint my nails and it just feels like I look like more of a mess
>>42018247>>42018286>>42018319>>42018347Lasses, Lads, And everyone in between. We've got about six hours until we start seizing. What's the go to for keeping the DTs at bay?
>>42018424>only focusing on the superficial
>>42018311I have no desire to be effeminate, I want a physically feminine body>>42018424exactly, it just highlights how much of a man you are
>>42017937he’s still publicly identifying as agp tho how is that better
>>42018450you can't have a physically feminine body your chromosomes code for a masculine one, taking estrogen or getting lots of surgery would only change that superficially and wouldn't touch all sorts of still masculine traitsyou DO want feminine behavior, if you have a physically female body you would act in a way that was different from now
>>42018211And yet, you're aroused, hm?
>>42018445okay well I would also like to think that I'm not following gender roles in non-superficial ways and I still feel like I'm intruding and not worth anything>>42018440vodka + water + mio
>>42018503>you can't have a physically feminine body your chromosomes code for a masculine oneyes I'm quite aware, that's why I hate being alive>you DO want feminine behaviorI really don't. The only women who I don't find obnoxious are the ones with at least somewhat masculine personalities.>if you have a physically female body you would act in a way that was different from nowyeah, I would act happyyou would flunk out of psychology school gincel
>>42018619intruding on whom? female sanctity? their government enforced monopoly on feminine behavior?
>>42018377gooseworx is a tranny, so there's a non-zero percent chance pomni is actually a dude who secretly enjoys being stuck in a female avatar as some twisted repper representation.i will believe this until the final episode.
>>42018653Wrong. Jax is the repchad of the show.
>>42018700beat me to it
>>42018319i make a mean margarita fuck being sober
>>42018653Wrong. There's no head drilling so Gooseworx has not inserted her fetish into the show yet.
>>42018754>yet
>>42018347I've tried to shy away from hard liquor, but vodka and lemonade is pretty classic. I prefer white rum when I go that route. Almost making me rethink my purchases...>>42018403>just be a feminine manAre you even a repper?>>42018440I mean, hair of the dog is the classic, innit? I like a light breakfast beer or a mimosa myself.>>42018720Being sober has little to recommend desu
>>42018809gincel is not a repper no. honestly it's nice that even in the repper thread there's someone even more braindead that i can feel bad for though
reminder that if you take any amount of estrogen you are NOT a repper and don’t belong here
you guys should watch this video, it's made by someone who was reduced to NEETdom for other reasons than dysphoria but I still relate heavilyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43QZ60dFi9Q
>>42018809>Are you even a repper?no, im a cis man who is feminine and likes being feminine and views estrogen as harmful
>>42018874gincel leave the reppers alone there are plenty of twinks to turn you down already
does the innawoods fantasy go away?
>>42018842why try to divide dry reppers and hrtreppers? we are all reppers and all suffer the same affliction. we just cope with it very slightly differently
>>42019055Probably not.It is human nature to imagine/desire ourselves to be better, more capable, than we are.
why i can't just forget about it and feel sick after every major social interaction? i just want to go over it but i can't
>>42019148Being an hrt”””repper””” is far closer to being a full blown tranny than being a dry repper. they only serve to discourage real reppers from the proper path
>>42017706holy poonslop
i fucking hate mirrorsnot even because i get dysphoric from my reflection but because i keep getting these fucking. glimpses. into something. like i can't quite describe it but i glance into a mirror when i'm tired and i see a girl there and i look and she's gonei fucking hate this i want it excised
>>42019278the proper path? the fuck are you talking about? there is no right or wrong way of coping, we're just a bunch of gender failures trying to do the best we can
>>42019278it's funny to act like there's some kind of valor in this. also not like there are that many people that would post here to begin with so might as well as let whoever hang outside of gincel
i <3 wet repping
>>42019339The proper path is to eventually stop thinking about all this gender bs and become a normal male. if u don’t agree with that then you’ve already given up so no wonder ur on e
>>42019278>dry repperNew autistic terminology just dropped.Not a dig. I kinda like it.
>>42019425>stop thinking about all this gender bs and become a normal malewhy are you posting here if you're trying to avoid the tranny thoughts? maybe it's because you know there's no escape from them
>>42019375what does that mean
>>42019375<3
>>42019513its the opposite of dry repping
>>42019512I didn’t post here for over a year but relapsed a few months ago. just bc I’m failing at my goal doesn’t mean it’s not the right path for me
>>42019536>relapsedWhat do you mean by this? Posting or tranny thoughts or something else?
>>42019536so you cope by deluding yourself that the dysphoria will magically go away and i cope by hrtrepping. who cares? we're both still retarded reppers at the end of the day
>>42019148we are definitonally not the same, "hrtreppers" are not repping and therefore not reppers>>42019375>>42019513the only real "wet repping" is drinking a lot to help you repress
Despite making me into a 6'3 gorillahon at 28 I'm going to start hrtIs there any way for me to explain away why I'm going to have boobsAnd also, I need to lose about 10kg, can I still lose weight on hrt or will it fuck shit up
>>42019547just posting and thinking about tranny shit everyday. I genuinely barely thought about gender bs at all for all of 2024.>>42019570taking hrt isn’t a cope it’s complete failure, you’re a tranny now. It’s like saying you cope with drug addiction by ODing
>>42019638>cope with drug addiction by ODingor by taking a reduced amount as part of a maintenance treatment, which is literally how they treat drug dependence
>>42019669oh so then you plan to eventually stop hrt right? right???
The unhappiness is taking a physical toll again
>>42019706nta but there are people who take methadone indefinitely iirc
>>42019706maybe, maybe not. as long as i don't troon then the hrtrepping is working, or at least not hurting
>>42019752you have trooned tho, like I can agree taking estrogen helps you cope but to say ur a repper is like saying you’re sober just because you only drink occasionally
Crushing my skull into little splinters of bone and a puddle of mush with the biggest boulder I can lift, over and over and over again
>>42019828i'm a repper because i have zero intention to socially transition. that's surely the key factor that makes someone a repper or not. a person's hormonal profile is irrelevant. what if someone naturally had low t and high e, as many men do? does that mean they could never be reppers? the only thing that matters is whether or not someone socially troons
>>42019899medically transitioning is the only thing that matters, "social transitioning" is a spookyou will NEVER be a repper (congrats btw)
>>42019899men don’t just suddenly develop high e and low t in adulthood. Even if you’re getting meds illegally and not getting blood test any doctor could tell something is up just by looking at your body and your medical history. So you’re only not “socially trans” insofar as you are able to hide it
misery and suffering edition
>>42019899>repper medicalism you hate to see it
living hell edition
MODS this thread is off topic, move it to bant or pol
>>42020014>queer infighitng>"off topic for /tttt/!"Huh?
>>42019991resorting to it to keep posting on the worst gen on the board is pretty funny though>>42020014:(
>>42020031reppers aren’t queer t. repper
>>42020046Lies. Possibly.If queer just means "not straight," then reppers are queer.We are asexual in that we hate our own sexuality, whatever the fuck it is.
>>42020071reppers are super straight alpha chads
this is so silly though! estrogen doesn't make someone a troon, socially transitioning does! are you saying that an hrtrepper who takes estrogen but doesn't socially transition is a troon? but a tranny who socially transitions but doesn't take estrogen isn't a troon? your criteria for deciding who is and isn't a troon obviously makes no fucking sense
>>42020071if I tell other people I’m straight then I’m straight even if I don’t engage in any sexual activities
>>42020156>are you saying that an hrtrepper who takes estrogen but doesn't socially transition is a troon? but a tranny who socially transitions but doesn't take estrogen isn't a troon?yes in the sense of troon=transitioningall of the above are potentially troons in the sense that they have trannybrain
>>42020156>intentionally manipulates hormone levels to be that of opposite sex>not transyeah for sure whatever you say
>>42020156its a combination of social and medical transition in most cases but some people are limited to social transition. whether or not you are a troon is determined by whether or nor you are seen in society as a troon or as a woman. therefore those who medically transition but are not seen by society as a troon or a woman are not troons and therefore reppers.
>>42020178I see. I too haven't been in a relationship for years, and call myself "passing for straight."
>>42018843Good video. Every now and then I get videos from schizo NEET reppers in my recommended. https://youtu.be/KK9j0k77O2w
the deserved fate of cowards edition
>>42020194everyone in this thread has trannybrain! what length of hair are reppers allowed before they magically become troons? what pitch of voice makes you a troon? how much skincare makes you a troon? what sort of clothes are you allowed to wear before you magically transform into a troon? how many cocks can you suck before your repper licence is revoked? fucking hell, it's all so tiresome
>>42020282Purity tests are how some people cope.
>>42020282men can have long hair, have a high pitched voice, do skincare, cross dress, and suck cock. men cannot take estrogen
>>42020282obfuscation.>>42020315trvke
>>42020315what amount of estrogen is permitted then? zero?
>>42020315Well said. So what if I wear my sister's underwear?
>>42020347yes. detrans reppers are accepted tho
I honestly dont care who's in here as lo g as it still fits the theme of repression. Ive gone in mmg and bmg while not being either of those
>>42020014newfag
>>4202024413 seconds in and i want to rip this guy's fucking tongue out i can't fucking stand his voice omg get me back on estrogen the testosterone rage is
>Take to the hills, run away>I'm gonna get my perfect body back someday>If not by faith then by the sword>I'm going to be restored
>>42019536>>42019425>if i simply stop thinking about the tranny thoughts they will go awayruh rohnever have any kids anon, youre gonna fuck up a family some day if you do
have you ever feel like a huge fag for cuddling with an inanimate object to try and feel better
>>42020761i have a stuffed animal i cuddle when i sleep, sometimes i think about how it'll never be seen as cute or anything just weird>>42020742okay but what if it does work for me
>>42020769>okay but what if it does work for meit wont
>>42020742yeah that guy is a ticking john50 timebomb
>>42020782but i really want it to? and it'd be cool if it did?
>>42020742no I won’t have kids, my parents already genetically fucked me by racemixing so I refuse to continue the pain. doesn’t mean it’s ok to be a cringe tranny tho
>>42019536I was gone for 4 years. It still came back
>>42020835you are already cringeyou will never not be cringerepping is cringebeing a troon is cringethe no kids thing tho is good you wont spread the tranny gene and wont troon out on your kids when your mind finally snaps
>>42020790How much worse is John 50 than John 40? Or John 40 from John 30? Or John 50 from John 60? Does it just hit a level where it's equal, or is each one worse than the one before?
>>42020911I can outside, interact with society and never get stared at or hollered at or spit at. most of the time ppl don’t even notice I exist. the same cannot be said for most trannies
>>42020761Hugging something makes it easier to sleep but it feels infantilizing to actually do it desu.
>>42020761manly straight men can hug pillows and stuffies it’s ok
>>42020935and? you will die one day the same as all the rest of us and will do so without having truly livedthat is deeply and inherently cringe, more so than the honmoders that manage to find some real deep contentment and happiness in life, even if they are cringetroon or dont troon its up to you but dont fool yourself into thinking repping is actually "honorable" in some fashion
trooning or taking estrogen doesn't make you a woman it just makes you a sissy faggot, deep down that's what you'll always be in everyone's eyesyou need to man up and fuck pussy and have sex with your mother
>>42020989I will die without having humiliated myself, without anyone knowing that I was actually a disgusting gender confused fetishist, and that’s what really matters
>>42021025>I will die without having humiliated myselfto waste your entire life is inherently humiliating, youll understand this as you move through life, however long it takes you to reach this conclusionyou are obsessed with approval form others, it wont bring you any satisfaction or happiness in life in the long run
>>42021078You have to think about someone's quality of life and how it will be when trooningFor some it will be equal or fine but for others it will be a significant decline. Just because you're "doing the right thing" by trooning doesn't mean it will actually make your life better all things considered. Trooning won't necessarily bring satisfaction or happiness in the long run either and many trannies just assume it does or spout the john50 meme without really considering the sum of the pros and cons for each individual case
>>42021128yea agreelike at a certain point it's already too far gone both physically and mentally and i don't get why everyone acts like it'll always be better. if it's going to be shit anyway might as well stall while i can keep my career etc going and then fail miserably later. maybe i'll finally get the guts to kill myself
>>42021128>just assume it does or spout the john50 memeim not implying youll be happy if you troon out, im implying its the only potential case for happinessyoure on the troon board talking about your troon feelings, its already over for youthe j50 "meme" is just an accurate depiction of a man living with crippling dysphoria that eventually overwhelms everything else in his life no matter how hard he tries to ignore iti honestly dont actually care that much whether you troon out or not, i just despise the way reppers genuinely lie to themselves>i will make the thoughts go away>i will just find happiness elsewhere>i can do this forever>i will not regret this horribly>its gonna work out in the endnone of this is true, and if you want to rep despite that go for it, but be honest with yourself, its why i tell reppers to never have kids or get married, theyre going to seriously fuck up a family some day down the line if they do, whether thats trooning out on them or suicide or just plainly not being emotionally healthy enough to be a good parent
>>42017721being alive is a humiliation ritual for people like us
>>42021128i think what trannies dont accept is that by the time you get to 40 you are basically over everything anyway. like who cares what your gender is at that point. trannyism is the kind of thing young people care about because they wanna have sex or be seen, then aging rapes them to death and you give up, we are just giving up a little earlier
>>42021192>its why i tell reppers to never have kids or get married, theyre going to seriously fuck up a family some day down the line if they do, whether thats trooning out on them or suicide or just plainly not being emotionally healthy enough to be a good parentnta but this is why i dont even try to date anyone and havent for all of my 20si would be a horrible parent and even if they dont want kids, nobody deserves to be saddled with all my tranny repping brainworms
>>42021233theres an absolute metric shit pile of old trannies that troon out in their 40s +, like an insane amountlike the for the longest time the average tranny was age wise old afthis just really isnt true, youre forcing your perspective of why a tranny is a tranny through a fetishistic mindset (trannies are just fulfilling a sexual fetish and thats it), if that were true youd just be able to chemically castrate yourself and youd have no desire to transition but in practice this literally has been tried and doesnt workjust cope, it wont work either, also an example of the lying reppers do to themselves so they dont go insane
>>42021192but anyone can see it if they're on this board for a bit: look how miserable most trannies are on this board after trooning. You'll trade the miserable repper shit with agonizing about all your features that still don't pass and you may never have the money to fix. But it's even worse because now you're actually in the thick of it, trying to troon. Even after all the surgeries there's still no guarantee it'll make you pass or alleviate the dysphoria to a point where you're satisfied. You see this with some tranners that are post FFS and still post about being sad hons, even if they aren'tI wouldn't say repping is the best path for everyone but neither is trooning, but I feel the rhetoric of this place is always "you absolutely HAVE to troon or else you 100% factually will at 50 and if you just do it now you'll be a hot woman and live happily ever after". Just think more needs to be taken into each particular reppers case and what they want or need out of their life and that trooning is sold as a simple miracle fix
i want a girl voicenot a tranny voice i want a real girl voice
>>42021411Finally someone in this miserable thread understands, sure it's hell now but I can see it getting a lot worse.The constant torrent of >toon now while you still can is so tiresome only matched by the equally retarded>just forget about the tranny thoughtsnether helpful in the slightest
>>42021411ive pretty explicitly stated repeatedly i dont believe repping is guaranteed to make you happy, i really dont know why you keep implying that im arguing that, im really not, im arguing that repping wont make you happy either and guarantees you wont ever be happyat the least trooning might offer a possibility of happiness, also i dont see how you can compare 4tran trannies to trannies at large, most trannies arent 4channers that sit around handwringing about whether they zygal bone plane chungus ratio is the same size as it were on a cis womanim promising you in no uncertain terms the thoughts will not just go away and you will live with some deep hole in the very core of your being that no amount of lying to yourself can plug, again, troon or dont, just dont convince yourself you know for certain you are better reppingby the very fact youre on this board rn i would bet every dollar ive ever made you will end up on E at some point in your life, whether thats a year or 20 years from now, just my betthe only reppers that manage to dredge their way through life however miserable they might be do so by never even acknowledging any of these feelings in the first place, you are already far past that point
>>42021276I dont think a sexual fetish is something to be dismissed or somehow less meaningful than "real" reasons to transition. In any case the fetishistic side of this is often developed through repression.But youre somewhat right, there are two sides to this. There are the people who repress hard and dont learn how to accept it until it explodes out of them at age 40. But then there are also the ones who it gets easier as they age and they accept it and give up on it. You think these people dont exist because they are invisible to you.
>>42021756>But then there are also the ones who it gets easier as they age and they accept it and give up on it. You think these people dont exist because they are invisible to you.Nta but what's your evidence for believing these people even exist, other than wishful thinking on your part?
>>42021756>But then there are also the ones who it gets easier as they age and they accept it and give up on it. You think these people dont exist because they are invisible to you.i absolutely think these people existcrucially they arent posting about tranny thoughts on the tranny board surrounded by other trannies talking about their tranny thoughtstheyre busy living their lives, largely because they dont experience the same amount of dysphoria, these people arent thinking about their dysphoria in the way literally ANY poster on this entire board is, whatever they experience is a fleeting feeling that is readily disregarded, but no one with crippling dysphoria is having those feelings "fade" away, if they did you wouldnt see the absolute barrage of old trannies who troon out half way past their expiration dateim also not implying a fetish is shameful, im directly suggesting that whatever gender dysphoria is isnt intrinsically a sexual fetish even if it might express that way to an extent as a coping mechanism for repressed feelings
>>42021794Whats more likely, these people do not exist at all and no one in human history has ever been able to resist dysphoria indefinitely? Think of how unlikely that is. it always struck me as weird how you take it at face value that dysphoria is some irresistable thing, that everyone will be john 50. based on no evidence besides stereotype, but totally dismiss the idea that people could just thug it out. its almost like you want to believe its irresistable and you have no choice...
>>42021800i mean just for starters, being in this thread means you are thinking about tranny shit all the time, im sure there are a lot of reppers who used to feel dysphoria and now are just focusing on their careers and arent thinking about it. not even in a coping way, just if you stop feeding the fire it will atrophy and fade into the background.
>>42021852>What's more likely, these Reptilians do not exist at all and no one in human history has ever been secretly an evil lizard alien? Think of how unlikely that is.
>>42021852Anyway I've been thugging it our longer than you and seeing it get worse so I've got a lot less delusions about the situation than the youngbloods here.
>>42021794nta but the john 50 study:>Some gender dysphoric individuals proceed into their senior years with their needs and desires to be female still unresolved... Little is known about these individuals. That they exist, however, is indisputable... Senior gender dysphoric males typically report they have been waiting, many since childhood in the hope that their desire to be female would simply "go away."
>>42021867>bro gender dysphoria is totally genetic and you cant do anything about it or resist it bro dont worry about how there are no studies at all on this topic its totally irresistable and you have to take estrogen or you will do it when its too late i know lik a trillion people that have ever lived on earth is a lot of people but trust me every single one that had dysphoria threw themselves down the town well or drank mare urine to become a tranny you need to be a tranny bro
>>42021880Anon, we're not debating the existence of John 70s, or even John 90s. Anon's premise is the idea that there are people who stop feeling dysphoric eventually even when this shit followed them into adulthood. What you just cited to me were examples of people who's dysphoria did NOT stop even when they were seniors, who dealt with it their whole lives. The question here isn't about how long someone can rep, but the theoretical concept of someone who somehow stops the feeling entirely.
>>42021411I have a good amount of trans friends and maybe 2 of them are happy out of like 10the happy ones dont focus on the gender stuff at all and were ray of sunshine type people already who stay totally engaged with their partners and careers
>>42021880There is an unanswered question here about the nature of desire. Is a desire something that is without you, something that you dont choose to have. Or is it something you choose to engage in, to feed?So for example, if im addicted to a drug, on one end i desire that drug because im physically addicted and i have no choice, but at the same time i am choosing to continue the cycle by feeding the desire with my actions.I seriously doubt there are 70 year olds out there who have been dysphoric for 50 something years. The only way that is happening is if they spent the last few decades gooning to sissy porn or smething. Like dude they are 70, fucking 70. Life is long and eventuallly you get bored with yourself and even your deepest desires.
>>42021898Not the point I was engaging you over at all. This hyperbolic tangent is just a defense mechanism on your part for not wanting to confront that, though. Look, you'll be here next year saying the same shit you are now, and the next, and the next. As long as this dogshit hellsite persists. I'm not going to question your ability to rep, or how long you'll do it, but I can definitively say that outside of taking a power tool to your braincase you're not going to stop yourself from feeling dysphoria for good. That's something you're going to need to fight forever, just like gays and their desire for cocks.
>>42021926im not talking about my personal ability to rep because i am a weak person, i was more being critical of your blanket judgement that people dont get over this shit. like really its not that big of a deal. you know there are big fat people out there with totally ruined bodies who hate it and they dont go and kill themselves over it.. you just get used to it.
>>42021657I'm saying this because pinkpillers argue for a position without fully knowing the individuals material and psychological conditions It's not really something you should be telling someone you don't know "I know you will never find happiness if you rep and your only chance at it is trooning"I'm saying this as a detranny, so you're right I ended up on E at some point, but I know both sides of repping and trooning, trooning isn't necessarily always the answer. I'm not saying repping is correct either but each individuals case has to be understood
>>42021944I personally think GD and being a tranny is a brain divergence like autism or ADHD, it's not something you can just 'get over'. Hell, even someone's sexuality is something they can't just 'get over'. The fundamental issue here is that you think having GD is like having an intrusive thought or a paraphilia, but the research doesn't indicate it's like that at all. It indicates there's something up with the raw meat of our brains, and conditions like that can't be willed away.
>>42021862>if you stop feeding the fire it will atrophy and fade into the background.i promise you this doesnt work, i truly absolutely dont believe there are reppers who experience their dysphoria simply going away long forever because they stopped thinking about itanyone who can simply ignore it and have it disappear didnt have the dysphoria that anyone here does, and i think this is another one of the repper lies under>itll go awayit just isnt going to go away, you cannot escape your own self no matter how hard you try to
>>42021982id argue that i am explicitly considering the "individuals case" when i state that trooning might not work out for them and they may continue to be a dysphoric mess, im only arguing that repping does not successfully lead to the dysphoria simply going away, that self aware, genuinely dysphoric reppers dont find happiness in their roles as men in life, even in this thread half the reppers here are still hinging this shit on the "its gonna go away some day so i just have to hold out until then" lie, and i honestly think if youre going to rep you NEED to understand this isnt true and that only from that position can you actually determine whether or not its "optimal" for you to transition or noti dont believe you can accurately assess that transition isnt for you if you cant be entirely honest with yourself and come to that conclusion at least partially on the basis of lies you feed yourselfalso this is saying nothing of people like hrtreppers or troons that troon out anyways and still dont really succeed but know absolutely wouldnt go back to not being on hrt/trooning outmost of the miserable trannies here STILL wouldnt detransition, so its clearly not as simple as either troon out if youre gonna pass or dont troon out, youre framing it this way mentally as an ultimatum so you can more easily reject the idea that it may be in your interest to troon out
i found the cure to repression
estrogen would have saved me
>>42020244will watch later, thanks
ugly cry
make me a girl go back in time and make me a girl right fucking now
me too thankscaptcha aw2hrt
>>42022050I agree that you need to know it's not going to go away but I think many actually do. And some can make peace with that because your gender isn't the only thing in your life and isn't the only thing that can bring you happiness. For most of human history we've had no other option for this and currently our solution for is far from perfect. Like look at videos of people born horribly disfigured or burn victims, how do they find happiness? It's definitely not in their physical appearance or gender. Even if you do troon out successfully you might get to the point where you think, "well what now?" you may even start to feel some emptiness and try looking for happiness in things outside your gender or appearance doing some creative pursuit or something. And even so, trooning can sometimes even just make it worse. Because like I said, now you're actually trying to look feminine, so those masculine features are now even more painful to look at.>youre framing it this way mentally as an ultimatum so you can more easily reject the idea that it may be in your interest to troon outThat's the problem though, pinkpillers are the ones who always do this and always frame it as a deadly serious ultimatum of "either you troon or john50/suicide those are the only options" at the point where it's become baked into everyone's mind here. that's why reppers see it as an ultimatum and what I'm trying to point out is there is a massive variation for everyone where "repping" can be the overall better/happier path for some people, or it can be equally as shitty as trooning
>>42022280im not suggesting trooning will make you happy in and of itself, im suggesting if you have dysphoria it is something that needs to be treated in some manneri dont think the argument of what people did before transition applies well to be honest with you, namely because the option of trooning never existed back then largely, so there was no awareness of this fact and there was no potential other than to move forward in whatever fashion they can, im also skeptical these people that could match the dypshoria of those that exist here and choose the transition, actually did manage to move through life happily, yet again im not saying you must troon, im saying you must accept that you will never get rid of the thoughts and it will always be a hole inside of youyoure still hinging this "on its going to go away", maybe this is a fundamental disagreeance for you, i just truly do not believe it will go away for anyone here, i would bet everything that every single serious poster in this thread that deals with these feelings and finds themselves coming back here time to time will have to deal with their feelings for the entirety of their life time, and i do think that transition to whatever degree can seriously help achieve a more meaningful and authentic life, regardless of whether or not it improves their material conditionsagain, if trooning were such a terrible thing to engage in that is worse than repping, why then does most everyone who ever troons never return to repping, even if they are fucking miserable as a troon? theyve obviously concluded its still the better option for their own selves, as much as j50 or start now is an ultimatum so is "i must pass or i will never troon"
>>42020244Big fan of this video. There's a really sad/weird moment where he calls getting sexually assaulted a "forced handjob" which just reeks of rule34 tagging. It's so obvious the dude has probably spent years coping with gooning and only knows about the depths of his own sexuality through his experiences with a screen. I know it, because I've done it myself. Life is sad.
>>42022053Not necessarily the best solution... But based Aronofsky poster all the same.
On hrtrepping: there is no hrtrepping. That's just fucking boymoding. Repression is a commitment to misery, if you aren't choosing to commit yourself to misery because of how bad transitioning is, then you're not repping. I could probably make myself 100% happier if I transitioned but why would I when I know everything around me transitioning is just pure shame and degeneracy no matter how much I want it? >>42021926Nta but this is what I'm talking against here. If you're not intentionally making yourself miserable then you're not choosing to repress.
>check r/transtimelines for some good ol' repfuel>80% of the posts on the first page today almost kinda sorta pass rather than the usual 10%goddamnit
>>42021657your bet is correcti repped for longer than most on this board have been alivestarting hrt in 26
>>42021862>there are a lot of reppers who used to feel dysphoria and now are just focusing on their careers and arent thinking about it. not even in a coping way, just if you stop feeding the fire it will atrophy and fade into the background.thats me from 2007 to 2015. genuinely believed i "grew out of it" as the studies say that most gender nonconforming kids do.then again from 2018 to 2024it works until it doesent
>>42023193that sub stopped being repfuel a long time ago
Hey guy, I used to post here many years ago.At some point I got convinced maybe transitioning would help, so I went on hrt, I got ffs, then another round of ffs, laser etc.I still look like a man, I still am gendered male, I still feel extremely dysphoric and look like shit.Don't do it, it's just not worth it.Leave this place, get a job, a gf, and forget about this as much as you can.
>>42023193its as rare as like 1/500 but i sometimes see cute crossdressers on reddit
>>42023973holy larp to try and counteract the actual long term repper lmao
>>42024053What does that even mean, why would I be LARPing, and why would I "counteract the long term repper" when I am telling people to keep repping?Tf?Fucking schizo.
>>42024086go back
>>42024089Kys
>>42018620>The only women who I don't find obnoxious are the ones with at least somewhat masculine personalities.You have a mother wound. You hate women yet all you want is to be one. Youre the worst type of transgender, your fucked up gender stuff is all a product of hate and misogyny. Are you a gay man? I try so hard to be accepting and i have sympathy for so many trannies but the woman hating ones i just can’t understand. You have the soul forever of a male if you don’t feel kinship to all women of this earth
I got molested as a kid.
What have you been up to today? I've purchased christmas gifts
>>42023973>get a job, a gfAlready did that. Didnt help.Any other genious ideas?
>>42024432Get kids, find God, get into politics, basically anything you can to stop thinking about it.Transitioning (lol) doesn't help, period.
>>42024504go back
>>42024517Go back to mtfg, troon.
>>42022403Ideological repping is fucking retarded.
>>42024504>Dude join my cult worship the Jews right now!Nah fuck off.
every kind of repping is retarded except for what i'm doing, which is deserved because i am fundamentally a bad person
>>42024852It's better than trooning.I hate that I have destroyed my relationship with my parents over nothing.A lot of money gone too.For what? Nothing.Ffs is a scam and so is hrt.>>42024863I'm not telling you which religion to convert to anon.
>>42024887Do you think it's fair finding a partner, maybe have kids, and never telling them about your feelings?
>>42024887My parents are bastards so I'm never going to sympathize with people who still feel this servile urge towards people who will never accept them for who they are into adulthood. Been there, done that, it was a mistake to ever care.
>>42024898I don't see any issue desu.
>>42024902Waow aren't you an edgy boy?And my family "accepted" (tolerated) me.It's still fucking cringe and pathetic and humiliating that they think I'm a troon.
>>42024909i think the troony feelings will remain with you until they break you sooner or later, hope it'll be before you're John, 50 desu
>>42024918>You're so edgySure anon, let's pretend people can't have legitimate family issues.>My family accepted meOh wow so you're extra retarded, you had supportive parents and you still decided to make yourself miserable out of some strange fixation. My parents would've beaten the shit out of me if I came out when I first started feeling this way.
>>42024931Nigga I've had ffs and everything.I tried, and I failed, I still look like an old ugly man because transitioning is a scam if you aren't very lucky. That's why I am telling people here not to repeat my mistake and just live.>>42024944>let's pretend people can't have legitimate family issues.The way you said it and wanting to generalize it for generalized contempt to those who care for their kin was the edgy part.>Oh wow so you're extra retarded, you had supportive parents and you still decided to make yourself miserable out of some strange fixation.Supportive or not it really doesn't change anything. They will see you as a subhuman either way because trooning is fucking ridiculous unless you are a super effeminate gay Twink which no one here is.Transitioning is a mistake, may all heed my advice.
>>42024992>Nigga I've had ffs and everythingSucks that you turned out unhappy and unfortunate looking, but acting like everyone would end up like that is just silly. Did you buy into the hrt is magic meme?
>>42024992>The way you said it and wanting to generalize it for generalized contempt to those who care for their kin was the edgy part.Because it is generalized contempt. You are an adult, you have a duty to live for your own happiness, you are not a slave to nor an object for your parents. We can argue all day about if one has a 'duty' to their parents and to what extent that is, but ultimately YOU are your own person and YOU have a right to your own happiness.>They will see you as a a subhumanYou have paranoid fixations and consider yourself, as an adult, to still be subordinate to your parents. This is malignant.
>>42025020Most people on this board imagine that spending a long time on hrt + ffs will save most people, which isn't true.I am simply trying to inform reppers of that lie.>>42025025Trooning doesn't bring happiness.Reppers should try other things, I think having kids and embracing some kind of ideology would probably be good for them.
>>42025048Trooning doesn't bring some people happiness, but I'm not really shilling trooning here. I'm opposing this idea of yours that one should subordinate their happiness to their parents.
>>42025048Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anyone who is thinking straight believes trooning will bring happiness. I think it's more that it allows one to have a neutral baseline, since we're all so naturally miserable.
>>42025048>I am simply trying to inform reppers of that lie. I don't mind detrannies, but they have the same mindset as trannies. From personal experience they know best, anyone saying they prefer to rep is retarded, and anyone who wants to troon is retarded too because i had a bad experience with it. Even if people giga fail at trooning, they can always go back anyway. Think they'll have figured it out before long. There'll always be people who detroon, but instead of self reflecting they blame others and then pester people who are already retardedly Indecisive. While back on scandi tv there was some fat detrooner who whined and cried because he got his balls snipped, blaming everyone from the doctor to the community that supported him. No room for accountability
>>42024432lol you got a gf how?am i the only fucking repper that is actually a failed male?
Gf makes a comment about taking hrt (she knows). Instead of saying "I might" like it should have, i go "BUT THEN MY DICK WONT WORK"
>>42025117nta; don't worry, you're not>t. still looking for work, refuses to engage in relationships
>>42025117same. feels bad enough to lie to myself idk how you guys are also doing it to other people
>>42024235same desu
>>42018440benzos are effective at preventing DTs
>On finasteride and minoxidil for two years bc i've been balding since adolescence>Shave it short recently just so i can apply more min better(topically.)>Uh oh i'm like 100% thinned out baldspot on my entire head and i just didn't notice for all this time somehow.>Bought a dermaroller, started massaging the scalp, supplements and started paying more attention to actually rubbing min into the scalp. Will try to get dutasteride.Genuinely thinking about killing myself since it's probably not going to get better.
Repping is a luxury. The ability to sit there and waste your life, pondering over impossibilities is a luxury afforded only to those of this century and the wealthy of those past.Pining endlessly over some impossibility. Making absolutely nothing meaningful of your life so you can have reason to break at 30 and point back to the shell of an existence you lived up to there as justification. Those who spend their time here are just slowly marching towards the inevitable future trannydom, just at a snails pace all whilst ruining any prospects and potential they once had. All this instead of taking charge and changing course. Living a real life. Transing isn't the answer. Reality always wins.
>>42026511No because i'm a 100% bald at an early age so i will kill myself before ever trooning out.
>>42026511Lots of projecting. You don't need to waste your life just because you're unhappy and rep. Get a good education, a job, friends, be social, etc. but that doesn't mean you're comfortable with your physical reality.>Those who spend their time here are just slowly marching towards the inevitable future trannydomprobably true tbf, i happily envy those with the willpower to go tranner early in life. Life's just odd, and difficult to figure out even if you can mask pretty well. Would prefer not having these feelings, but that's not realistic. I'm happy there's a place to talk with others about this, even if some people are going through a bit of a downer phase. think repping will never really be understood by others desu
>>42026511>slowly marching towards the inevitable future trannydom, just at a snails pace all whilst ruining any prospects and potential they once hadThis but trooning out when I was 16 was the answer, or at least part of it. Not doing it was one of the things I did to 'ruin any prospects and potential I once had." There's other things and other aspects ruined by the same cowardice, yes, but if I wasn't a coward, I'd have also trooned. That's simply the reality of it.
>>42024235I think I did as a kid, by a dark man on vacation because my mother left me alone at a clothes store. I was a pasty white kid and I remember the employees pressuring me to try the shirts I was holding on and they may have touched me idk. All I remember is comments on how beautiful my skin was. So now I'm racist with a race fetish. WMBF, BWC, that kind of thing.
Sorting junk mail today, including catalogs.Every time I see someone advertising happy, dressed in some chaste fashion that would be appropriate for an adult woman, I dump it cos I don't want to be reminded of what I'm missing, of what I missed.Hopefully not the only one like this.
