>>42031947
this is said by people who already don't really have any ambitions. consider how many trannies are also incredibly talented artists, musicians, scientists, and engineers, and you will see that this is a non-issue.

>>42031947
also PLEASEEEE tell me that losing all will to be an independent being is not as guaranteed as people say it is?
I enjoy my space, I enjoy work I can say I did alone, I enjoy being self sufficient, please please please tell me there's not some shit estrogen will do to my brain that makes me one of those people that genuinely gets depressed when they go like 2 days without talking to someone pleaseeeeeeeee

>>42031947
>please level with me here. this isn't a guarantee right?
no these people are having an emotional phase where can slowly start to accept themselves fully
its cringe but i wish i had the imagination and hope of a baby trans

>>42031947
it will make you more behaviourally feminine. it will not automatically make you a burnout puppygirl loser.

personally, i am very high functioning in my career. i did have a period of realizing my ambition was a cope driven by insecurity (it was, repper mtfs are like this) but then i sort of found other reasons to keep putting in the effort and now im far, far more professionally successful than i was before

My partner broke up with me and I went completely insane. Threatened to pipe bomb his friend who I later found out he was fucking (just a hunch at the time) and then I sent him a pic of me holding my pistol saying I'm going to do it this time.

>And that's how I ended up impatient for a few days
>Pretty sure I've got BPD

>>42031947
i was ambitious before HRT and i am just as ambitious as i was when i started. started out a depressed teenager and now im a lawyer. absolutely not “guaranteed” that you’ll lose ambition that’s just cope

>>42032045
we should be friends nona

for me im babytrans boymoder turbo autismo but im tryna still do kinda hard stuff maybe

i think i care more about the stuff i beleive in than i ever did, but for me i think that looks like changing ambitions rather than losing them.

like i wanted to do the right thing before, but now i like...it'll hurt, if i don't fix things, nobody else is coming for them so it has to be me, and i cannot stop or get cynical or stop caring or give up because there won't be anybody that will without me.

which i think was true before, still, but i can feel it now, i think. it feels that way. i'm still v much learning how to feelings and i think they've like....moved around a little? they don't make much more sense than they ever did. i'm kind of worried about if i might get dumber, if i'll still be able to do the stuff i need to, but i don't...

yeah, i don't know. my brain's not like...exploding or anything? it is different but only a little/kinda subtle so far. girlpuberty is annoying and my boobs hurt, also being alone is harder yes but sorta cuz i can actually feel when people touch me now (incl me i guess. well exclusively me desu.)

anyway thank u for coming to my ted talk

>>42032113
Oh for the record I was a lazy POS before and during (4.5 months in now). Honestly I think it comes down to what level of self discipline you have before and hormones will just bring out your emotions more. They won't change every innate characteristic you have.

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OK, but, we all see that picture, right?
Jon Arbuckle is pretty much my reaction to the picture.
It's not just me, right?

>>42031947
you only lose your ambition if your ambition was related to you trying to navigate the social expectations placed on men. if you genuinely like doing ambitious shit for its own sake you arent gonna stop liking it.

>>42031947
I been in het 2 years and am still a tomboy. I feel more emotions now and my adhd is much better but thats about it

>>42032181
Yeah I didn’t read OPs post at all
Why is Nicki being punished for witchcraft while Twilight isn’t?

>>42031947
I'm 3 years hrt and I've hand nothing happen to my emotional experiences I just stopped feeling like absolute shit due to repping

>>42031947
All of this is complete bs, none of it happened to me, i still struggle with being over ambitious and enjoy all my hobbies i did before, and if anything getting on hrt finally pushed me to change who i hang around with to be people who are actually my friends, my life is way less dramatic now. Also i still boymode 3 years in
Get on hrt nona, youll be fine, please dont wait and let t destroy your body
Also fwiw i remember hearing bs about hrt removing your inner thoughts but none of that happened even a little

Basically nothing is guaranteed but it's very likely you will at least become more emotional and empathetic/sensitive to other peoples emotion. That's a super common one.

You MAY get depression. You MAY get mood swings. Everything is very luck of the draw, same with physical effects

>>42031947
Was a thread on this the other day.
Consensus was it's hondosing causing this. Horns low dose and send themselves through menopause.
Trans women with decent levels have none of this and think just fine.

>>42031978
>also PLEASEEEE tell me that losing all will to be an independent being
no but theres a pretty good chance it makes you a bottom.

>>42031947
>>42031947

>cherry picking
>yes people admit they are bad people online of course
>literally no one said this
>that's probably a good idea

OP you're the misogynist one and a retard, if you are going to not take HRT because you want to remain a teenage boy then by all means please continue not taking HRT

>>42031947
>I just totally threw away every single masculine thing in my life because I no longer identified with it haha :), I'm such a girl now!
whats wrong with this one?

>>42031947
Art is sublimated libido. And dudes have both a greater physiological need for it, AND a harder time fulfilling it. So yeah, you'll 100% come out the other side "less ambitious." Doesn't mean you won't produce anything, as trannies are fairly renowned for interesting work in all fields, but they don't do it with the intensity of a man desperate to signal value. Not that they call it that, but basically that's what it is.

>>42031947
You'll likely become more feminine and no longer be able to be 'one of the boys', but you probably won't become ambitionless and hysterical.
Tbh even if you weren't trans, I still think it would be a bad idea to cling to the notion that you'll never change and simply stay who you are at the moment forever, that just isn't realistic. Change is a normal part of life, HRT can just have a habit of turbocharging it because of the mental changes from HRT combined with letting go of repression.

>>42031969
>talented artists
lol
>musicians
a handful are good yea
>scientists and engineers
LOL
You are not close to being overrepresented in those field ecen controlling for per capita. And some old guy trooning out randomly at middle age doesn’t count it’s a fetish cope

>>42033063
cope

>>42033073
Is it? I can't think of a single notable mtf good with a pencil. Sonic witches on the other hand, and emulator programmers...

You won't. Ambition has metabolic components that change slightly when you take estrogen, especially if you take spironolactone as it dries you out. This can be taken care of. Presumably you go to the gym and give nonzero shit about your diet, you should also have your micronutrients, vitamins, iron, etc analyzed when you go get a blood test.

There is also a social aspect, people with no self awareness before they trans wind up in looking like annoying caricatures and "losing themselves" because they were always shallow people in the first place or they thought estrogen would solve everything, sometimes when they were already exactly the type to create problems for themselves out of hubris. It feels unjust, but it's honestly not your or my business especially if watching these living trainwrecks makes you sad, unless of course you made the mistake of letting one control some important aspect of your life. This can be another form of hubris.

My advice, remember your values and be openminded. There is no reason to accept and perform things you don't believe in, I would add however that the cringe trannies you witness at times weren't openminded enough, they accepted an idea of what womanhood is from a very mainstream place. I think I get what you mean though. The tendency within trans community to refer to adults as trans girls (most of us are not kids ffs) makes me uncomfortable as do many other things that I try to forget.

>>42033081
NTA but I'm a writer. I just don't think I could ever publish my short stories no one wants to hear about eroticisation of sexual trauma from a tranny pov

>>42031947
i became the first, not that i ever had much ambition to begin with. sit around, sob 5 times in a day, hug my stuffies & get high. meanwhile my friend (same girl who convinced me to start taking hrt) makes almost $80 an hour in some genetic research lab, and she's only 2 years & some change older.

>>42031947
Just stay a man if you like being a man so much

>>42031947
holy shit where did you read all those experiences. are you lurking sissy infested spaces like r/mtf?????

you can just take hrt and still act the same. yeah some people have drastic changes cuz living a lie gets you john 50 levels of dissociation and shame, but if you already were living like you wanted to, hrt doesnt have all that symbolic weight - its a tool. tools are meant to be used. wanna be a tomboy? transition. that's it. dont wanna age like a man? transition.

>>42033146
just make it less explicitly trans, you absolutely could sell erotica. there are transbian porn VNs that the authors make quite a bit from too

>>42033435
But it's not porn i mean it is erotic but in a horrific way. I'm very inspired by erotic horror and postmodern fiction. So that makes it hard to market lol ig. Not everything is tranny centric obviously I have short stories where I take some cis girl's perspective