>but i have NEVER met a non passoid troon.
meant to say i've never met a non passoid short troon

>>42037852
notice how tall cis women are just all legs. If u have a normal inseam above 5’8 passing is impossible

i wanted to debate troons about height what happend

>>42038019
i will find my inseam now thanks

>>42038035
a normal inseam is around 45% of height but tall women often have inseams 50% of height or more

>>42038063
Crotch height is basically the same for males and females of a given height

>>42038076
idk some nba players seem like they're like 60% torso

>>42037865
>meant to say i've never met a non passoid short troon
that's funny because i kind of have the opposite experiences, i've known far more tall passoid than short one, the tall one tend to have better proportion

>>42038076
not at extreme heights

>>42038112
hm you got any examples? it could be my HATRED for short troons is clouding my vision

>>42037852
i'm 5'8.5"
i'm fucked

>>42038132
define extreme
at 5'10" the difference is about 0.3" (ansur 1) / 0.5" (ansur 2)

>>42038229
ansur doesn’t have enough female data at those heights to be accurate

>>42037852
>5’9”
You have to be kidding me. You have no idea what it’s like the really be a heighthon
>t. 5’11”

>>42038272
> You have no idea what it’s like the really be a heighthon
I guess I forgot how to even form sentences. I meant to say that YOU have no idea what it’s like to be a heighthon!

>>42038259
Keep whining then ig

>>42038168
i mean, can't really give you example, it's just people i've known
i've known like 50 trannies in my life and the one would passed the best(and it wasn't even close) was a 6'3 curvy one

>>42037852
Being a 5'7"-5'11" mtf with naturally feminine shoulders, ribcage, waist etc. is infinitely better than being a 5'4"-5'6" brick. Build is so much more important than height because it determines whether you'll pass without hrt which is the determinant of how well you'll pass with hrt

>t. 5'5" brickhon

>>42038342
tall trannies often pass better in pictures bc better proportions but short trannies pass wayyyyy easier irl even if bricky

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>>42038342
picrel
short trannies who go on about their height do so because it's the only actually feminine skeletal feature they have
otherwise they'd be like cis women in wishing they were taller so they could reach further

>>42038361
>but short trannies pass wayyyyy easier irl even if bricky
naaaah

>>42038361
Let me give you an example. My shoe size would be unremarkable for a tranny 5'4" tall, but for a tranny 5'9" tall? To most people, there's no way a male could have feet that small.

>>42038361
What tf is this cope, better proportions mean you can wear clothes that don't have to constantly hide your disgusting body, and when you get naked with a partner they won't be repulsed

>>42038463
jeeps love wearing frumpy dresses that only get made for short women

>>42038463
better proportions doesn’t mean you look cis and you’re gonna get stared at way more in public if ur tall

>>42038491
>feminine proportions don't make you feminine
Every passoid I see on tiktok that has narrower bones than me with 3 inches of height on me is the biggest ropefuel ever, I'm gonna have to fatmaxx into a horrible ugly monster to even have a chance

>>42038367
ppl who post this pic never realize that heighthons usually have broad shoulders too. it's not like we all are klienfeltershits.
we are broad and tall more times than not.
and tall cis women have even more ridiculous height/shoulder ratios.

Idk I'm tallish (5'9" 1/2) and I dont think im too tall esp. in Sweden
I'm also thin boned which ig helps like i wear S sized clothes despite being a bit pudgy

try not to cry about being 5'10" i just know i cant wear heels anymore ;v;

>>42038413
but your feet would grow in proportion to your height. Your shoulders, ribcage too. It's not like the rest of your body would be bigger and your feet would still be the same size. The tall troon likely has larger everything including feet. being tall wouldn't make one less bricky unless they are have luckshit proportions in some way, usually they just have more pronounced male proportions

>>42039134
same. makes me wanna rope

>>42039157
being a tall lady sucks :(

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>>42037852
i'm 6'5" it's fucking over iwnbaw.

everything i do is to cope with this. i'm never going to make it. because there is no making it for us. we cannot be women.

i have not gone one week since i was 13 without having a breakdown.

>>42037852
I'm 6'2, 5'9 is short lol

>>42038063
I normally don't get brainworms like this shit but I just checked my percentage versus inseam and I'm at around 49-50% with 68" tall

>>42039173
>i'm 6'5"
hot

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>>42037852

> "oh your so tall that you just look like freakishly giant not male height!"
height is the most dimorphic feature on humans second only to genitals.
if a trans woman had shoulders broader than 99.9% of men. you would not say this to her, that would be obviously cruel and a lie.
nobody says this about shoulders, or hips, or chest size or browbone or jaw. and all of those things are possible in theory to change.
so why is this okay to say about height?

all of my short friends grew out their hair and get to be women month 6.

i will never be a woman in my life.

>>42039135
Idk about other tall trannies but I have like 41 sized feet (EU size idk yank bs) which is like very normal? Like so normal it's in every shop ever?
I also have very small hands and wrists

>>42039207
women size 10/10.5 according to google. What I have at 5'11" but its still giving ogre

>>42039173
I'm "just" 6'2 but I feel you, I think I'm going to be manmoding forever
>>42039197
kys
>>42039203
>Walmart fired her
this can't be real wtf???

>>42037852
>passoid
And seething you have no idea how lucky you are. You are not that tall either

>>42039080
Nobody is saying that being tall makes people pass.
But having a 15" biacromial is fine at 5'11" whereas it's very clocky at 5'6".
>>42039135
The point is that being tall doesn't matter if you're a luckshit. It can even emphasize luckshittery.

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>>42039203
that's not to mention how height affects everything:

- q-angle (lower)
- weight (higher)
- curves (flatter)
- hunger (higher)
- balance (lower)
- shoulders (broader) (shortoids love to larp this one it's very funny)
- feet (bigger)
- hands (giant)
- social (assumed dominance)
- gender (assumed masculine/male)
- hair (shorter looking)
etc.

EVERYTHING in transition you do, will be hindered by your height.

> i wish i was taller so i could pass better
> no i don't want any of the changes that come with being taller

>>42039256
yeah obviously.
but people post that meme to tall trans women. who 99% of the time do not just get stretched out. they actually are *TALL* women and are broad.
people act like it's just a single variable on a character builder and whine to heighthons about their one (1) issue that would look relatively better: >>42039303

>>42039303
And normies expect all of those features in tall cis women already.

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>>42037852
There is no surgery to fix you. You cannot transition this away
The only way to overcome this is through mental changes and accepting yourself. And god help you if that's tied to gender dysphoria.

> "i wish conversion therapy worked so i didn't wish i was trans"
conversion therapy is the ONLY hope for getting rid of these desires.
You have to break your ego down into nothingness and build an identity that fits with your body.
That is the only way to fix this.

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>>42039354
> You have to break your ego down into nothingness and build an identity that fits with your body.

You are not supposed to be small. That is not who you get to be.
You are not cute. That is not who you are.
You are not petite. That's gross of you to desire.
You are not feminine. That is not you're aesthetic.
You do not get to wear those clothes. Those are for women.
You do not get protected. You protect others.
You are not innocent. You are scary.
You are intimidating.
You are dominant.
You are powerful.
You are masculine.
You are tough.
You can take it.
You are tall.
And that is who you will always be.

>>42037852
that rodgers guy in la apparently does it. limb lengthening or shortening alongside entire ribcage surgery next year. bdd surgery for the rich. expected to cost well over 100k american.

I’m a 5'5 manmoder and get gendered male by everyone

>>42039383
Yeah, no. PAIS means I'm not intimidating, powerful, masculine, nor tough.

>>42039397
It's not the entire ribcage, only ribs 7 through 12 and sometimes 6.

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>>42039197
i have been dissociating this away since i was a preteen. so i often forget what happened when i wake up in the morning.. only to be reminded when my feet hang off the bed.
i am too big to ever be held by someone who wants to protect me.

>>42039249
>this can't be real wtf???
it is. cis women at that height are masculinized to the point of losing their womanhood in the eyes of others so much

>>42039236
Ur retarded then and not my problem maybe ur just ogre soul

>>42039401
intershits try not to brag about it everywhere becuse they have a cope that makes them more truwomen than other trannies:

glad you have ur cope at least hon.

>>42039383
I've never found clothes that didnt fit me at 1m77 idk what y'all are on about
+ I'm treated like a girl and ppl always want to help me
You just dont aurapass

>>42039399
> i'm too lazy to put in effort even tho i'm a gigaluckshit
> what i want doesn't magically get handed to me
i hate shortoids
i hate shortoids
i hate shortoids
you will never understand trying as hard as you can and being told the only thing holding you back is height (unfixable!!)

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>>42039506
> I've never found clothes that didnt fit me at 1m77 idk what y'all are on about
i'm 20cm taller than you.
obviously you can find clothes you are a female height lmao. (though yes cissies are much lazier it is funny what they consider "hard". they also consider heights much shorter than "tall" to be tall- tho shorthons do that too)
i do find clothes though. i do dress cute. i modify clothes to fit me.
i do get compliments.
it is just a struggle just like it is for every other woman at this height because the fashion industry does not really care as much.

glad you are short tho.

>>42039473
>i am too big to ever be held by someone
wrong, there is just more of you to hold and love

>>42039249
>kys
that's not very nice anon

>>42039570
>1m97
Oh shit nona yeah that's fucking tall I dont think ive ever met anyone irl that tall
That said I've met a cis woman 1m93 or sth. She was fat af too fkn huge like
I thought you were just another brainwormed tranny i get told im a heighthon by retards otb constantly so I assumed
I hope you're a transbian at least otherwise shit must suck ass

>>42039589
people have said this to me so many times. then its always:
> can we take turns
okay..
> them curled up in my arms while i try not to cry

i just need to learn not to want it.

>>42039473
I guess I should just kill myself then

>>42038212
no you're not
>>42038272
neither of us are heighthons.
>>42038322
that makes me feel better desu. the friend whom i know passes the best is 6'1
>>42038342
nope as ive said the brickiest of hons that are your height are treated 100% better than tall "passoids"
>>42038413
feet doesnt mean anything to anyone. im happy u have small feet tho. dont topple over.

>>42038463
thats my point short troons can wear clothes that hide their body and pass because at that height its ASSUMED you're female. heighthons cant
>>42038491
>>42039080
truth nuke alert!!

>>42039118
>sweden
no duh u live in tall central

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>>42039617
> I hope you're a transbian at least
hahahahaha! i hope so too!!!!!!!!!

>>42039203
this is the biggest truth nuke ive ever heard im saving this to cry to later. thank you nona
>>42039255
this post isnt really about me its about the people taller than me
>>42039383
6'5 repping hands wrote this
>>42039515
TRUTH NUKEEEEEEEEEE (saving this)

im the op btw thank you for this bounty of ropefuel and hopefuel

>>42039723
>no duh u live in tall central
Yeah i know! I dont feel tall at all here lmao but I still get ppl argue "omg you mog Swedish women the average Swedish women is 1m68cm youre like 10000 standard deviations away" all the fkn time when I tell them girls my height are fkn common and I see girls way taller every day

>>42039676
i oscillate between making suicide plans and burying myself in work.

edging suicide can be such stress relief if you get yourself to believe it will be over soon.

>>42039759
anyone can find love at any height. I know it's difficult and it will be hard but you will find a man. I know it.
>>42039636
that sounds awful nona. If I were a top (which I am unfortunately not then i would never do this to you) Everyone deserves to be the little spoon.

>>42039718
>that makes me feel better desu. the friend whom i know passes the best is 6'1
happy to give some positivity, height isn't as important as what people like to say on here
it can make you stand out more but it will never be the reason why you don't pass

>>42039764
>this is the biggest truth nuke ive ever heard im saving this to cry to later. thank you nona
>6'5 repping hands wrote this
>TRUTH NUKEEEEEEEEEE (saving this)
i am the same person.. this thread baited me into second mental breakdown of the week over this. sorry for spamming. thanks tho, i needed to get it out of my system today.

also i am proudly not a repper and am even a girlmoder despite my luck.
i used to have so much more hope. but i am still trying..

>>42039809
lol thats funny... sorry for calling you a repper and im glad u are girlmoding!!! i am trying to do so...

>>42039831
how long have you been on hrt?
if > 2 years and not yet girlmoding then it's over and you should detransition

>>42037852
>complains about being tall
>5'9"
are you fucking kidding me you're the person you're complaining about you're not even that tall

>>42039834
are you the same guy who made the thread all about this wildly absurd concept of yours.
6 months wbu?

>>42039831
no it's okay! it was kinda reppercoded.
good luck yourself it is actually very rewarding if it's safe and you don't expect to pass

>>42039842
>are you fucking kidding me you're the person you're complaining about you're not even that tall
wait holy shit OP are you serious?? >>42039617
u are so right i hate these people

>>42039853
the "wildly absurd" concept that "hrt takes 5, no wait 7, no wait 10 years!" is a cope?

>>42039842
bro its just like the french revolution. the people who are taller are too busy having to deal with being tall. so like the middleclass (5'9-5'11) are the ones with the privlege to speak up for ourselves against the kings and queens (5'2'-5'6). you would unmderstand if you READ A THING OR TWo

>>42039876
im asian 5'9 is taller than for WHITIES. i do live in the us tho

>>42039303
their palms arent lined up

>>42039891
i (>>42039842) am asian and 6'2" please actually shut the fuck up already 5'9" is legitimately normal height

>>42039896
your palms arent lined up

>>42037852
Tall trannies are yummy as hell

>>42039891
heighthon means you cannot pass because of your height, not because you are dysphoric about not being 4'11

seing trannies complaining about being 5'9/5'10 is so funny considering i see cis woman who are taller than them literally everyday

>>42039924
Being 5'10" isn't a problem if you're not a brick.

>>42039924
They're just coping because they don't wanna admit it's because of other factors

>>42039924
>>42039903
>>42039921
this is not about me. its about how short trannies are bad. no infighting mk? THEY are the enemy not ME not YOU THEM. them and the cissies...

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>>42039924
exactly my cister is 5'9 and she never has any issues if you get clocked at that height you're looking at the wrong issue.

at least 6'7 troons have a valid excuse

>>42039950
i get clocked because of my massive penis which swings from side to side like a grandfather clock in my tights

>>42039958
based

>>42039958
hngg

>>42039948
you need therapy

>>42039948
you ARE the short tranny mf

I am 6'2", you need use clothing and your hair to hide your height, or you need to just own it and go some alt style with giant combat boots or something. It sucks and is horrible and my height hands and feet make me want to KMS but other ppl seem not to care nearly as much as I do inrl u can hide most of it by distracting ppl, big hands get tattoos or clothes that hide them

>>42040009
arent' hand tats rly ugly tho???

>>42037852
im 5'5 and white and i will never pass lol. even after ffs in a few months

>>42040079
if you get ugly tats, it's on you anon

>>42040119
no but they blur fast and also what if you want to be fem..

>>42039169
being a tall translady* sucks

>>42040091
bait but u still should rope

>>42039597
yes!!! give me a fucking huge tranny dommy mommy who blaps my boyhole

>>42040134
>also what if you want to be fem..
tf does that have to do with hands tattoos?
if anything, 99% of people with hands tattoo i see are women

>>42040149
it's not bait i actually am 5'5
i am just a brick with conetits and a square jaw and moid browbone

face is 40% voice is 40% body is 20%
my voice is mostly good but face and body are fucked

your proportions >>>>>>>>>>> your height

>>42040154
are you ok?

>>42037852
>>42037865
>>42038025

Society's really dumb anon. It's a simple IQ check to realise the irrelevancy of height but people can't get over it(hehe..I'm sorry about the pun..still correct though).

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>>42040163
bitch height is part of your body lmao.
and brick is actually fixable (t. used to be a brick but hten i put in effort)

i have K cups and a .68 whr now (and kind voice trained it's hard but i do my best)

but i'm 197cm and i'm routinely misgendered (before i speak)
and i've ASKED why and everyone says it's cause i'm tall. my tranny friends say that it's cause i'm tall.

so idk why u gotta brag like this here. i hate shortshits sm.
>>42039515
this

>>42040243
It is what it is. Cis women who are extremely gender nonconforming often get gendered male by strangers.
What trannies misunderstand is that that basically means being 99.9th percentile height for a woman, or 99th percentile height and presenting masc, or similar large deviations from the norm. Not being 80th percentile height and presenting fem. Cis women who fit that last one basically never get gendered male by strangers.

>>42040290
> Cis women who are extremely gender nonconforming often get gendered male by strangers.
exactly like i'm not gnc tho!! i'm not gnc! i'm fem! i'm a woman!! this isn't in my control this is the one thing i can't change! :(((

> What trannies misunderstand is that that basically means being 99.9th percentile height for a woman,
yeah.... which is why no matter how hard i try iwnbaw.

> Cis women who fit that last one basically never get gendered male by strangers.
exactly :\

>>42040310
Gender nonconformity isn't just about presentation. Being 6'5" is nonconforming for a woman. It's a type of nonconforming you can't do anything about.

>>42040243
i'm not bragging retard i would easily take any deal to grow 6 inches and become a gigapassoid because it's not happening any other way

i have permastunted conetits (they haven't grown an iota for a year) a fucking 18 inch bideltoid, 30 inch underbust, and the narrowest hips i've ever seen. and i will never be able to afford throwing money at clavicle and i have no desire to get ba/bbl. fuck u luckshit.

>>42040379
let this be a warning to other shorties who think they'll pass effortlessly because of their height

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>>42040379
> i would easily take any deal to grow 6 inches and become a gigapassoid because it's not happening any other way
shortoids are always skull luckshits too their brain has such little room to grow :(

like that's such a weird hypothetical idk why shortoids always say that to tallhons???? i don't get it why is that always brought up??
okay some magical genie makes up a weird scenario to you
>"you can be gigapassoid butttt you have to be taller than men!!"
sure anyone would take that!!
but you don't wish you could be *taller* you just wish you could be *curvier/prettier/cuter/skinnier* and would pay the price of being taller.
> oh i wish i had bigger feet because then my boobs are bigger-
> i mean no um i wish i had bigger boobs and if that meant my feet were bigger so be it
like see how stupid that is??
and you are saying that to people who aren't necessarily any curvier/prettier/passier than you. you people say it to fridges too... and then do weird backpedaling shit and think self deprecating makes them look normal.
you don't. you're an arse.

and even if they *are* lucky, shortfags always say weird shit when tall girls r venting about their height.

and then on top of that literally everything you can change about your body except height.
tits can be grown. hips can be grown. waist can be snatched. but height can't be shrunk.

so it's completely pointless to say unless you are trying to brag!!
(which you obviously are because of the FFS consult shit)

> fuck u luckshit.
hehe. reveling in this while i can.

have fun being a woman one day nona..

>>42040486
i like this. this is funny. i love all my tall passoids. tall passoids are the best kind of people

tall dom troon are the apex of trannoid

>>42040792
kys
kys
kys
kys

>>42040808
cope all you want, i'm right

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>>42040876
i know ur right bc i'm a tall sub troon nd that's the bottom of troons

>>42040897
eh i wouldn't say it's the bottom, plenty of people want to dom tall trannies, domming someone taller than yourself is seen as a challenge for a lot of them

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>>42040924
> is seen as a challenge
heighthon existence is ropefuel

>>42039958
dude same but its my balls, cant even tuck cus they are so big

>>42041424
proof?

>>42041366
>turning someone on is ropefuel
ok i guess?

>>42041426
no i am not posting my balls

>>42041484
do it or i RAPE YOUUUUU ANALYYYYYY!~~~~~~ how tall are you

i am a regular heterosexual man and i had severe height related BDD when i was a teenager. fortunately i have a fiance now so i no longer resent my height. but this is all so fascinating because i wanted to be taller, and you all want to be shorter.

>>42041448
i don't want to be a challenge or a tree or a mountain to climb or a big girl who can take it (violently) or a fetish i want to be a woman who is treated gently and i have never and will never have that

>>42041501
5'9

>>42041522
>i want to be a woman who is treated gently
ok? that doesn't contradict what i said at all? anonette, you're projecting your insecurities a bit too hard here

>>42041565
we're the same height we should kiss mwahhwhahwamahwhahwahhawhah

Chat if any ladies below 6’4 is a personal win. Might be a skill issue

>>42041567
i'm projecting my past experiences but yeah you're right. i just wish i was normal

>>42041638
tfw personal loser ;(

reading this thread as a 6’3 tranny is doing psychic damage to my brain. i have a .85whr and am trying to gain weight, hopefully it makes my body less moid-like. anyways for the actually tall girls, do any of you wear heels to own your height? i see it as a stereotype in some media of already tall trans women wearing 4inch heels so i wonder if anyone here does.

>>42041884
>, do any of you wear heels to own your height?
i've known a girl your height who does it, looking great while doing so too
don't think she's on the board anymore tho

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>>42041906
thank you for the hope post nona! i think ill try out wearing a heel casually

>>42041884
i tried it once and felt really cute.
t.6'5" nona
not too tall tho i was like 6'7 in them (six or saevennn)

>>42038272
>5'11"
You have to be kidding me. You have no idea what it’s like the really be a heighthon
>t. 6'4"

>>42041942
i would say the most important part with height is having some confidence
for some reason i've known quite a few girl who are 6'3 and i could really see the difference
if you're still not too sure about the heels thing, just take it slow, try a bit at home, things like that, until you're in your comfort zone with them and i'm sure you will look great with them
but hey, i'm just a dude so take what i say with a grain of salt lol

>>42041983
how to get confidence please i've been trying so long and women just say they "own it" with no explanation.
HOW
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN

all i can feel is this >>42039383 ('m not cute or small i'm dominant and confident) how do i unlearn this how do i get happy with it??

> oh it sucks being tall :(((
> "hunny just own it"
> oh okay!! :)))
like i see this so often online how does that even work lol???

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>>42041981
>picrel
>>42041983
it really is true!!! if i’m being honest i wear some really atrocious outfit’s out sometimes but i still receive compliments if im holding my head high

>>42041884
permamanmoder at 6'4, which despite zoomer internet memes is taller than a majority of men ;_;

>>42042005
>how to get confidence please
i mean, i don't know, like i said i'm just some dude
>>42042011
>it really is true!!! if i’m being honest i wear some really atrocious outfit’s out sometimes but i still receive compliments if im holding my head high
honestly happy to hear that, but why are you going out with atrocious outfit? lol

>>42042038
hm.. how do u do it as a guy

>>42042038
>why are you going out in an atrocious outfit
no person who has their own personal style can claim to be well dressed every day, every outfit is an experiment. i often look back at old pictures and am like wow who is that freak and what is it wearing. at least it wasn’t boring.
>>42042014
it doesn’t have to be just a meme nona :0

>>42042043
i.... don't really know, i've never dealt with that type of issues
>>42042077
from what you're saying, seems like it wasn't that atrocious
but hey, it's nice to see someone who seem happy and confident, you go girl!

>>42042098
> i've never dealt with that type of issues
woah..
that's genuinely impressive even for a cis person to just be confident in ur body that much..

>>42042286
I wouldn't say impressive, I'm just dumb and get compliments fairly regularly so I never think about that

>>42042312
goals omg

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>>42037852
Im 172cm am i a luckshit?
But im also a shoulder hon...>_>

>>42039780
work works to keep myself distracted but honestly I don't want to be distracted anymore, I just want to die

im 7 inches taller than my boyfriend chat am i cooked

>>42043483
oh, right, european hours.
*ahem*
im 17.78 centimeters taller than my boyfriend chat am i cooked

im 5'4 but have brutal whr and shoulder breadth. im gonna wait until im like 1-2 years into hrt and tehn start working out and gaining weight and such i feel like its kind of a waste so early into my transition (3 months)

>>42041982
yesterday i visited a friend while boymoding, her sister thought i was a butch lesbian, so yeah if she thought i was a woman, ppl with 5'11 arent having it thaaat bad

I'm 5'6 and average foid in my country is 5'4. I'm still taller than them. They have smaller faces/heads. You can clock me by skull size.

>>42041610
oki <;

>>42043488
>chat am i cooked
no, that's hot