I have OCD and one of my themes is questioning whether I'm transgender, how do I know if this is just an intrusive thought or actually true?
Do you want to be a women?
just an intrusive thought, men can't become women, if men were not thought of widely as evil rapists and shamed and ridiculed for having emotions or expressing themselves, you wouldn't care about being a woman or having a female body let's work to improve how feminine men are treated
>>42038092Ocd is a separate thing from gender dysphoria. Anxiety disorder only relieved when root causes are treated. So you know if you are. World is a spectrum being some gender ain't a cult. Don't stress about it get gender affirming care if you are
>>42039358gender dysphoria is an obsessive rumination that males are evil and must be castrated or they will hurt other people
>>42038092This board is honestly not a good place to get answers to this question. Too many chuds. Do you see an OCD specialist? I'm a tranny who has often wondered if my issues are OCD related, and I've spoken with several people who have had similar issues.
Hi anon.I have TOCD too, please go see an OCD specialist. It's not as uncommon as you think and help is available.
>>42038092What are your rituals? What are your intrusive thoughts specifically? Do you seek to confirm you're cis or trans? This matters
>>42038092tocd isn't a thingrogd isn't a thingmef isn't a thingagp is a thing but not like blanchard says
>>42039544No, TOCD is 100% real. Everything you listed is real except ROGD
>>42039562prove it (you can't/won't)
>>42039567Idk, speaking from personal experience I had TOCD but in reverse, I wanted to transition but feared I was cis constantly and always looked for signs to disprove I was cis. Every time I 'found' I was cis it lead me to this innate sense of wrongness and made me feel that I can't be a man. That would be called CisOCD, I don't see why it can't work the other way around for cis people.As for MEF I think it is a subtype of AGP and AGP is probably caused by repressed feelings leading to a trans person only being able to express their femininity through sexuality or it is men with an emasculation fetish and get off to the idea of being turned into an 'inferior' women.
>>42039667sounds like gender dysphoria and insecurity/self-doubt with extra steps
>>42039673gender dysphoria is obsessive internalized misandryyou cannot be trans as an amab without perceiving the nature of males as harmful to females
>>42039681proofs??
>>42039673How so? I do have GD I think, those feelings got exacerbated after I went on HRT and could actually feel things but I don't see how me having cisOCD is GD.
>>42039484>Do you seek to confirm you're cis or trans?Nta but what does seeking to confirm im trans mean
>>42039822Basically people with TOCD (should be called GIOCD because trans people can have cisOCD) know what gender they are but have intrusive thoughts about trooning or detrooning.So, a cis person will know they're cis, that they've been cis they're whole life and are comfortable being cis but will have unwanted, intrusive thoughts about transitioning, having a fear of secretly not being the right person. So, they start conducting rituals to confirm that they are cis and not trans. It would be the opposite in trans people. Trans people know that they're trans, or should transition but have intrusive thoughts about being cis even when they don't want to be cis; they conduct rituals to confirm they are trans and not cis.What resonates with you more?
>>42039906The latterDoes that really mean I'm allowed to transition I'm so scared anonI have been repressing for years not because I want to but because my brain doesn't let me transition I feel stuck I feel like I'm unable to control myself I want to transition but I feel like it's impossible and I'm not allowedI don't know what to doCan you help me
>>42039935I was like you at some point, I repressed a lot of feminine feelings and just excused my desires to be a woman since I was 6 years old as early onset AGP. When I realized I might be trans I wanted to transition but I always had this intrusive thought about actually lying to myself that I'm trans and that I'm secretly cis. I then found out my GIOCD habits were more similar to trans people than to cis people and that's what confirmed my belief that I was actually trans.I wish more people talked about this, it would've erased these doubts for myself.But yes, Nona, you're allowed to transition if you think it's right for you and think HRT will make you happier. Things will get better, don't let repression eat your life. If you find out you're not actually trans you can just stop HRT but I find this to be very rare unless you live in an unsafe environment. Just do what you think will make you happy!
>>42040016I think it will make me happy but I'm so scared Thanks for your reassuring words though It would make sense that my compulsions mean I'm a trans woman and I'm allowed to transition because I want to Right?
>>42040038I think if you have unwanted thoughts of being cis but you think transitioning is the right thing to do for yourself and you're trying to prove to yourself that it's the right thing to do, you're probably trans and should transition. I think you have cis OCD, not TOCD Nona.
>>42040093Thank you thank you thank you
>>42040123You're welcome Nona! Get on DIY and don't wait any longer, doctors are pretty gatekeepy most of the time
>>42038794Not the op, but how do I even know whether I'd want to be a woman or not?
I have TOCD, told so by a psych several years ago before there was much of any documentation out there. My obsession was "but what if I'm trans" and my compulsion was endlessly scrolling the various reddit trans forums and measuring my body multiple times a day. Sometimes looping between them and not leaving my room to eat for 16 hour days. I've had a resurgence in symptoms lately because I let my diet, exercise, and sunlight exposure slip. I found that the generic "healthy lifestyle" actually did a lot to mediate rumination. No fast food, regular lifting weights, (at least) weekly meals with friends or family, regular sleep times, etc. Now I'm back in the whole and just started Pio (but not HRT) because I just wanna fuck my shit up. Perk of TOCD is you can actively rep it easier (I will never transition). Downside is that OCD isn't limited to T as a theme. After my TOCD diagnosis I just assumed I was gay instead (HOCD) and ended up fucking two different guys that I was not at all attracted to. Then I thought I was maybe just a sociopath, then a pedophile (was gonna kms at this point ngl), then had an oedipus complex. Eventually the themes didn't land on a weird paraphilia and I got a stable life routine. I know transitioning seems like the only way out, but it's not, because you'll start getting the "but what if I'm cis" thoughts. Find actual treatment from an OCD doc or at least make sure the rest of your life is in a healthy state first.
>>42044050How were you sure it was actually TOCD? I'm at a point where I genuinely can't even distinguish whether I'm more afraid of having TOCD or more afraid of being trans.
>>42039363are you a sharty faggot or a gincel faggot
>>42039544>>42039562rogd is real i'm a cis man who developed fake dysphoria but am too stupid to act on it besides take hrt
>>42045008can attest to that myself. I've also developed fake dysphoria suddenly in my 20s, but I'm currently not on hrt anymore
>>42045923>I've also developed fake dysphoria suddenly in my 20s, but I'm currently not on hrt anymoresame except i john50ed and restarted hrt and know i'm a faketrans but wish i were trutrans