If you're MtF and you don't get SRS, then why should you be considered a woman or allowed to change your legal sex?
>>42038549I think MtFs should be expected to get surgery, but it would be weird to call an obvious woman a man.
getting srs make no difference in regard to how people see you, you're just saying that shit to be like "i'm one of the good one" but nobody gives a fuck, they will still hate you for being a tranny either way
>>42038549They shouldn't be allowed to change their sex unless they have srs. They're going to ruin it for the few of us who really want to be female
>>42038572If you're going to be in possibly rapey situations, you should lose your rapestick.
>>42038572If you pass and you're really quiet about, no one will hassle you, whatsoever
Because in burgerworld don't you have to live as a woman for like 2 years before you're allowed to get the big snip?Like I know iwnbaw but instead of just cutting off my tumors i have to pretend I'm more then just a troon until the freakmakers know I'm not pretending to be a faggot
>>42038565>>42038580>>42038572We need to do away with the notion of "Trans woman = Penis" which has sadly become the popular one. We will not be accepted otherwise. Losing the dick is necessary.
srs is expensive and often not very goodmake it cheap and easy to go to skilled surgeons, and make sure everyone gets proper time off work to recover first
>>42038598No.If there aren't enough good surgeons then it becomes an auction for the available surgery slots, which is fine, because we don't want NEETs transitioning.
>>42038609>because we don't want NEETs transitioningwhy not?sounds like maybe you don't actually have the best interests in trans people in mind
>>42038593i mean, yeah obviously, passing matters far more than if you had srs or not
>>42038615The point of transition is to enable people to be more productive members of society. There is no reason to believe a NEET will become anything else after SRS. Would-be transsexuals must demonstrate capability.
>>42038597retarded take
>>42038676>The point of transition is to enable people to be more productive members of societythey're not going to give you a raise for this
>>42038676NEETrannies who don't have jobs and spend all their time sending death threats to politicians and powermodding reddit and wikipedia are the reason everyone hates trannies.
>>42038639What if you asked fairly well not perfect but fairly well where nobody called you on it. Now for the suppose you didn't like living as a woman because you didn't like it. Would you detransition, even if you had SRS?
>>42038693If they're prohibited from transitioning before they stop being NEETs, then either they'll stop being NEETs and doing that type of thing, or they'll never transition and won't be viewed as trannies. A win either way.
>>42038700did you had a stroke while writing that message?
>>42038700There's nothing wrong with being a man with a neovag.
>>42038639>>42038639 #What if you passed fairly well, not perfect, but fairly well ,where nobody called you on it. Now suppose you didn't like living as a woman, because you didn't like it. Would you detransition, even if you had SRS?
>>42038549Ples gib money :( insurance is too expensive
>>42038719I think that's the craziest thing I've ever seen anyone write .
>>42038710They won't stop being NEETs, though.
>>42038721i'm not a tranny so i can't really answer that question anonbut if someone want to detroon, they can do it, nobody really care about if they are post op or not(with the obvious exception of their sex partner but you get the idea)
>>42038749I don't get the idea because I think it would be total checkmate. You'd have to kill yourself or you'd go insane. I can't imagine living having made such a horrible mistake!
>>42038760Bruh it's fine just a custom loadout, tactical pussy
>>42038734Okay, then they won't get to transition and they'll just be weird men, not trannies.
>>42038772You're being silly and you know it it would be the worst thing that could happen to anyone and it should be something where you could walk into a doctor's office and they should give you the kill yourself immediately. You'd be the biggest fucked up person in the world
>>42038760i mean, if they got srs that probably mean they had really strong bottom dysphoria and if they want to detrans it's probably because they didn't have much dysphoria outside of thatfor a detrooner like that it's probably an improvement not a horrible mistake
>>42038792It would be so disgusting I think there should be a law saying you can't live that way. I think it should be mandatory death sentence Capital punishments for doing that to yourself. It should be a form of self-murder punishable by cap offense
>>42038549>Jewish thead>>42038565>>42038580>>42038587>>42038593>>42038597>>42038609>>42038676>>42038693>>42038700>Jewish posts
>>42038809anon i don't want to be mean but do you have brain damage?
>>42038549Which one is the srsoid? And which one's "womanhood" is taken more seriously?
>>42038818It's a Jew trying to create a division between post-op and non-op trans women.
>>42038818Oh, you think I do huh? Because I think the most disgusting thing a man can do to himself is live like a sissy woman
>>42038850The one on the left identifies as a man. Just saying.
>>42038789The thing is that hussies only actually get dysphoric over using their dicks. If they could get a vagina but not have to socially transition then many would take that option
>>42038865>Retarded shit I just made upYour semitism is showing.
>>42038850Where is probably the one closest to being honestly gay I don't think she's fully gay I think she's one of those bisexuals who want to be gay so make sure the good one. The other one is too disgusting even mentioned looks like a human version of a pig
>>42038886Blaire is 100% AGP
>>42038865Hussies are short little men who do not make it successfully as handsome gay men. They have absolutely no interest in women and putting on a female body is sexually degrading. They transition to attract masculine men.
>>42038906It's about the first thing I agree with. She's not really a typical homosexual male who can't make it in the gay world because he never gets taken a night even though he's under 30 and he always gets attention when he dresses up and drag and does drag shows these are the ones that turn into hsts
>>42038916Jews are short ugly goblins who make shit up on 4chan to try to sow hatred and division in the trans community. There's no such thing as HSTS or AGP. There's just trans, and we all love and support each other.
>>42038549This is why I don't call myself a woman or even a trans woman, because I don't want SRS. I don't love or ever even use my penis, I just have cartoonish vaginal disgust.I'm a femboy. And that's okay.
>>42038954You call yourself a femboy because Jews on 4chan have retarded takes on SRS?That's a dumb reason.
>>42038968>Antisemite calling anyone else retarded
>>42038979to be fair, they are still right about what you're saying being stupid
>>42038979Except you actually are retarded. https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jewish-genetic-diseases/
>>42038948Okay, whatever you say I, for one, was definitely a gay guy who transition because I thought I was too ugly to attract other gay guys who are handsome looking Chad types. I was just foolish. I would swing like pendulum between being butch and going femme; one time I swung too far in the feminine direction and that's accounts for my change
>>42038997I'm not Jewish. Believe it or not even non-Jews have a limit with your BS.
>>42038916>Hussies are short little men who do not make it successfully as handsome gay men.Zero empirical evidence of this, nice cope though.
>>42038999You're a larping Jew. >>42039004Cool, have fun support your own oppression then you fucking retard. This thread was created by professional Hasbara trolls specifically to sow hatred and division in the trans community. So sage the fucking thread next time.
>>42039013It's what I know from personal experience. The only gay guys I knew that were interested in looking like women with drag queens to get it to get attention because they didn't have the body of a sexy looking man and they got attention from being creative instead of good looking. I know what I'm talking about I live in the gay community most of all my younger life
>>42039023>It's what I know from personal experience.So anecdotes. So honscience.
>>42039045I don't care what you think about it I only care about explaining it to myself. I should have stayed a gay man. This is the only truth that matters to me and the only one I'm sure about
>>42039111>Jewish bump
>>42038916>Hussies are short little menNot really.Caroline Cossey is 6'0" and HSTS.Carmen Carrera is 5'10" and HSTS.Blaire White is 5'5" and AGP.A bunch of the posters on this board are 5'7" or less and AGP. (They think that their height makes them feminine.)
>>42038549most of us that want to get it are too poor to get it anon.....if only we had a chaser hubby to pay it for us.
>>42039237Get a job and pay for it yourself? I did. No insurance, either. Full self-pay.
>>42039222You can't say that about them it's unless you know them. You don't know if they're attracted a man or women I'm not talking about Blanchard. His whole explanation thing about Autogynephilia. I'm talking about a gay male who transitioned
>>42039264I never had a job. I'm on disability
>>42039264are u american?
>>42038549Due to peculiarities of my biology I now have unambiguously female secondary sex characteristics, and was consistently seen as a woman faster than the absolute theoretical fastest I could get SRS even if I found a bargain basement surgeon with no waitlist. (It took 10 months--seriously. They make you go through a year of RLE and hair removal can take 18 months and I hear occasionally even longer if you're unlucky.)>>42038572>>42038593>>42038639Also this. Don't flash your genitals in public and they'll never be what outs you. Easy.>>42038597>>42038693Nah actually it's the worst of us getting infinite attention from the Daily Male and such for the last decade or so. Basically welcome to a well-funded hate campaign from people who want to roll gay and women's rights back to the 1850s.>>42038850And then this for good measure.
>>42038549it seems weird to have a view on other people that requires an unironic genital inspection
>>42038549legal sex doesn’t matter. pass irl or don’t. if you pass as female and are estrogen dominant it’s ridiculous to be gendered male on any id
>>42039237>>42039629>>42039698Please stop reponding to Jewish threads unironically.
>>42039733but I love Jews.
>>42039757They don't love you.
>>42038549Because this requirement forces trannies into the surgery which is a violation of human rights ( I personally don't think so but that is what was decided)So the current rules are the consequence of that because you can't force the surgery which you would do indirectly by only letting you change your ID stuff this way. (since it brings you harm and lowers your quality of life if you get outed every time you have to show ID stuff, and also because the goal should be to eventually complete your transition)
SRS is disgusting. you freaks need some containment ward. literally no one else wakes up and wants a fake pussy.
>>42040846>enter containment ward>ughh why are there trannies in the tranny containment wardIt's always nice to know what the down syndrome population of 4chan is up to anon, please give my regards to your fellow retards
>>42040884>>42040829Please remember to sage chud threads.
>>42040829>Because this requirement forces trannies into the surgery which is a violation of human rightsHahaha no it fucking doesn'tDon't want SRS? Then you don't get to change your legal sex. That's not a human rights violation.
>>42040930>Jewish post
>>42040930We need to get beyond this two sexes bullshit. We need to have a special category for people like me who live in Thailand. Like a ladyboy, shemale, Kathoey category. I started out in this category and then end up in the assist passing female category and I've lived a boring life. You need to stay with your queen mentality
>>42040974>assist passingIs that another way of saying "non-passing"?
>>42041006As cis passing
>>42041027sure anon. you need a secret third category becauseyou don't pass as female
>>42041054Why are you so hung up on this? Do you think you'd like me better, if I didn't have to look passing, or kind of boyish
>>42041103>Why are you so hung up on my lying through my teeth, huh?"We need more than two sexes" is what non-passers say. Passers don't need there to be more than two sexes.
>>42041133I had a lot more fun being a little queen. Living straight is safe but boring
>>42040930I have changed sex on all my documents and I have zero intention to ever have bottom surgery hope u die mad
the solution: those without SRS get gender recognition certificate like uk saying they are trans women with penises. if you do srs, you can change your birth certificate
>>42041700So basically an official tranny card?
>>42041700bro why not make a gold star that they can wear on their chest?
