The book argues that, contrary to common feminist and women's rights rhetoric, women in industrialized cultures are not oppressed, but rather exploit a well-established system of manipulating men.Vilar writes, "Men have been trained and conditioned by women, not unlike the way Pavlov conditioned his dogs, into becoming their slaves. As compensation for their labours men are given periodic use of a woman's vagina." The book contends that young boys are encouraged to associate their masculinity with their ability to be sexually intimate with a woman, and that a woman can control a man by socially empowering herself to be the gate-keeper to his sense of masculinity. Vilar states that this has been going on for some time.The author says that social definitions and norms, such as the idea that women are weak, are constructed by women with their needs in mind. Vilar explains how it works: if women are viewed as weak, less is expected of them; and therefore they are given more leeway in society than men. Vilar states that women are generally "gold diggers" who attempt to extract money and other material resources from men. One means by which women control men to effect this transfer of resources is praise. Women dole out praise to men only when their needs are met in some way.
>>42040961We already knew this. Good to have a cisf admitting it, though.
i do thid to my choid with my buttholr
>>42040978Another means of manipulation is the calculated use of emotional displays. Vilar claims that women can control their emotional reactions whereas men cannot, and that women create overly-dramatized emotional reactions to get their way: they "blackmail" men emotionally. Women also use sex as a tool of manipulation and control but also traditional concepts of love and romance, which are seen more positively than sex, to control men's sexual lives. Vilar writes that men gain nothing from marriage and that women coerce them into it under the pretense that it fulfills their romantic desires.The book closes with Vilar stating that it would be difficult to change the situation by appealing to women, as women are unsympathetic to the plight of men, and unwilling to give up their comfortable position in society. It is up to men to see past the deception and emotional blackmail and subject it to open criticism before any meaningful changes can occur.
>>42040961And yet if you're honest, you will admit that Gay men are free from this
>>42041012And straight men who date MtFs.
>Biography>Vilar's parents were jewish-German emigrants.Haha.
>>42040961Well if it is the case, it would mean men are not as strong and superior as they keep saying, and thus this woman supremacy would be actually deserved.God I hate moids.
>>42041203women evolved specifically to manipulate men though
>>42041221This is the proof that men are inferior then.
how the fuck do any of u read with this shit and not feel sick to ur stomach oh my fucking god ew if ur a mtf and agree with this ur literally just a man >>42041203yeah i wish misandry was real>>42041221fuck off
>>42041203It’s not as clear cut as “women are just superior”. Men could still easily enslave them tomorrow without any fear of retribution but in the history of Western culture & ethics women will always be & have been a protected class. Everyone just likes to focus on what “obstructions” used to be placed on them and many were also placed on pretty much every man as well.
>In her book Das Ende der Dressur (The End of Dressage) (1977), Vilar denounced the alleged leadership of lesbians, whom she accused of wanting to seduce heterosexual women "who would normally be completely inaccessible to their fanciful desires". To do this, they would use the feminist movement, which consists almost exclusively of lesbians and "masculinized women."I can see it now. Some dyke hit on her and she had gay panic so hard she declared war on feminism. lmao
>>42040961what does this have to do with the topic of this board
>>42041261>in the history of Western culture & ethics women will always be & have been a protected classI FUCKING LOVE BEING RAPED AND FORCED INTO ARRANGED MARRIAGES AND PREGNANCY AGAINST MY WILL AND SOLD AS A COMMODITY AND BEING KEPT AS A PRISONER IN MY OWN HOME AND BEING A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN AND BEING BEATEN AND RAPED BY MY VIOLENT DRUNK HUSBAND WHEN I ACCIDENTALLY OVERCOOK HIS SANDWICH WHO I HAD TO MARRY TO GET A CREDIT CARD AND I LOVE THAT I CANT TELL THE POLICE BECAUSE ITS NOT EVEN ILLEGAL AND I LOVE BEING PUT IN MENTAL ASYLUMS AND LOBOTOMIZED AND PUT ON LITHIUM AND A BARBITUATES WHEN I SHOW NORMAL HUMAN REACTIONS I LOVE STARVING MYSELF TO LOOK MORE DESIRABLE I LOVE BEING HUMAN TRAFFICKED AND HAVING TO KEEP A WEAPON ON ME JUST TO WALK ALONE AT NIGHT OR IN PARKING GARAGES>but men fight in the hecking wars tho!!!!!!karmic debt/culling.
>>42041377men get bad grades and get told to read and study and they feel suicidal and oppressed because of that.They are so lame it's insane.
Looking at her other books>"Old". Manifesto against the rule of the young. >Old means beautiful. Manifesto against the cult of youth.It's not just the women, it's the evil young people ruling the world!
>>42041387noooooo sister it’s sooooooooooo true they ARE oppressed because their 3rd grade teacher was mean to them once and their mom told them to set the dinner table for her. worst of all?? women they talk to on the street DONT EVEN immediately drop to their knees and start sucking their dicks when they compliment them…
>>42041377Close to all of those things stopped happening in the 1960s or are extremely rare in developed countries.I was sold into a prostitution ring and eventually a concentration camp as a child for being mtf by my mother. My entire memories of my childhood and life was women torturing me for fun and saying they would kill me if I didn't stop being a queer and man up to provide for them. I was homeless until 18 after that.As an adult I was told by women my whole life that I didn't get raped or tortured because only women can be victims, and if it did happen, then I deserved it for being born male, the incorrect sex. And if I ever try to say that I had a shitty life and AMABS can experience trauma and suffering just like all humans then I am immediately called a woman raping serial killer and exiled.The entirety of human society is women dehumanizing and controlling and subjugating men. They pretend to be the gender of empathy but it's actually the funniest thing ever to them when anyone who dares displease the sacred vagina are beaten to death by a man defending milady.Nobody is putting lesbians or ftms into conversion camps btw. But the whole of the world is perfectly ok with torturing and killing little boys and young men because that's what women want, and women control the world - to make money for them and to suffer and die if you won't.
>>42041399Ah yes. The young people who are barred from serving in Congress or becoming President because of their age are the ones ruling the world
>>42041431>HOW CAN SHE SLAP
>>42041431Your childhood must be fake. Vilar wrote the young rule this world.
>>42041377>All of this was so bad & heckin cruel that’s why women are the most lonely & sad they’ve ever been todaySounds like despite all of that it was preferable to now
>>42041431>Close to all of those things stopped happening in the 1960s>The entirety of human society is women dehumanizing and controlling and subjugating men.?if ur story’s real tho then im sorry and no one deserves that. if fake then W larp >>42041470what does this even mean? the present day is way better i literally never said the opposite.
>>42040961ts has real phenomena kinda... but also not rly. also it's explained through the wrong lens.. idk.. too tired to go thru all this but very interesting thread.>>42041431the whole "AFAB trauma" shit is so evil. overgeneralizing statistics and essentializing that into the identity of womanhood erases all the trauma that the patriarchy can inflict on the other 50% of the population too.But also i don't think this means that society is controlled by women. Just that viewing women as "innocent/weak/helpless" and men as "strong/tough/protectors" causes a lot of issues that can impose violence on both men and women.So many complicted scenarios:- Men who don't live up to those standards are violently punished. This includes people seen as failed men like trans women and gay men. Men are supposed to be "strong"- Women are violently pushed back into their role too. But it has to happen in certain scenarios- a father beating his daughter for cutting her hair is more socially acceptable. But a man doing that to a woman would get him beat up- because other men are taught to be "protector"- The belief cannot be sexually assaulted or it's not as bad because they are "tougher" and women are "weak" so it's "his fault"- Women are more innocent so they are trusted more. But they are also more weak so they are respected less.- The belief women should be raped/SAd to put them in their place as lesser- Men encouraged to repress emotions because they are "tougher" creating horrible emotional constipation and mental health issues- Women viewed as more dramatic so health issues not taken seriously (deadly)This isn't even really considering the intersectionality of transness and race and class.But yeah everything gender-y stems from this and men (not amabs!!!) do have more social power than women. But that doesn't mean they aren't tortured by the patriarchy and I hate when midwit twitter "radfems" think male-on-male violence/oppression is a male exclusive issue lol
>>42041667>"AFAB trauma">"OMG my bf dumped me this is so traumatic for me i have no choice but to become he/they"
>>42041710that's not usually what they are talking about tbf.it's more like "my mother scolded me for wearing a dress that showed too much cleavage at 8" "multiple men were creepy and touchy to me at church at 12" "i couldn't go outside at night alone because i was told to be scared of rapists hiding in the alleys" (justified precaution) "i have been told my whole life that my body is helpless and i am weak and need to be scared of everything" (complex mix of bigotry/biology/fearmongering/learned helplessness) "i was afraid to break up with my boyfriend who raped me because he would beat me" "i was told i was evil for showing my body (sometimes hair)" etc.it's not that it doesn't happen to amabs, it is bioessentialist, interphobic, and transphobic to say so. but it's not like women don't get a unique flavor of trauma that is different to the kind men get growing up.
>>42041667Men don't have more social power than women. The only power men have over women is physical strength. Stop doing methamphetamine for a minute before posting. Patriarchy was created by women, for women, because under this system, the vast majority of women but only 0.1% of men can achieve happiness, and they will fight and kill you to maintain that.I don't know any women who had daddy beat them because they cut their hair. My mom covered me in boiling oil at 6 because she found me in a dress though. My aunt pulled out my teeth and locked me in a bathroom for a year at 8 because I said I wanted to be a girl.My female cousin would bring her college aged friends over to beat me every day and make me eat their excrement out of the toilet because I said I liked a boy at 10I remember pretty well there weren't any girls at the camps. I was there for almost 700 days being forced to memorize the bible naked and handcuffed and in a cage and remember very distinctively it was only boys and trannies like me.My mom had my father shave me bald when kicking me out at 14 because they found my HRT because I was trying to grow my hair out and onLy GIrlS CAN HAVE long HaIRWomen aren't punished for masculinity AT ALL because you control the world and it benefits you to restrict only the opposite sex. You get to have a career, you get to choose to have kids, you get to choose how you express yourselves and live. Meanwhile as a man if I don't become a mass produced soulless emotionless ATM who provides for women so they can have a relaxing easy life, I am a subhuman killer freak and need to be put in prison or killed to protect women. Do you know who it is that says these things, enforces these things?Women don't like soft emotional men so they beat and torture boys into becoming the traumatized monsters that they imagine oppress them and then blame boys for existing against their will.
>>42041012I love watching homos clap back and refuse to simpLike, they can out-woman the womanPathetic when transwomen do it, however
>>42041377Glad you love it, femrepper!Cause it's COMING THE FUCK BACK.You're my future tomboy wife with psych issues!
>>42041746>i can't dress as a street corner hooker at 8>i had to interact with old people at 12>omg AFAB traumaAFABs' lives are on easy mode. Always.
>>42041810Nobody's gonna believe all that here.Maybe you should've taken the hint and been a boy though.Hussies accept reality long before puberty sets in and try to make the whole boy thing work. They're not sneaking HRT and growing their hair out because repping is so hard and just gotta be performatively feminine :'( That's an early onset jeep thing.
>>42041830i’m mtf lol
>>42041875oh so you have nothing to worry about
>>42041882wdym
>>42041848observe how boys regularly being sexually abused by priests and beaten up in school for being physically small gets ignored by the anon who is desperate to simp for afabs
>>42041891why would we enslave you like women?Trannies aren't accountable for the crimes of women and you can't make breeding sows.You can just keep being programmers and whatever
>>42041810> Men don't have more social power than women. The only power men have over women is physical strength.i mean they do tho. men have more opportunity education and are in more positions of power than women.idk i'm assuming you write off the "third world" too because it "doesn't count"? those women don't count bc their society is "less evolved".. (and women are more oppressed?)> the vast majority of women but only 0.1% of men can achieve happinessi mean.. men violently oppress other men who go against this system...> idk any women who had daddy beat them because they cut their hairi do. and im giving an acceptable example which wouldn't justify other men fulfilling their "protector" role.> [everything that happened]..i'm so sorry. okay desu i don't think i want to like debate or convince you of anything idk. you didn't deserve that.i do agree men and boys are violently oppressed though for violating their role. that's so cruel that shit happened nona :( women can be evil.> Women aren't punished for masculinity AT ALL i just.. this is where i have to disagree tho. i know girls who were too. it wasn't nearly as violent as ur experiences, but i knew some girls in my church who got fucked upbut yeah i do think queer AMABs have it far worse> because you control the world and it benefits you to restrict only the opposite sex...i'm a tranny who was violently/sexually/mentally/etc abused for it too nona.. i don't control any more than u. i just think that women suffer too.but i agree men (and ppl they see as men) suffer so much too and it's ignored :(1/2
>>42041922Trans women were socialized to be useful, not useless, after all.
You cant spell happenis without saying "ah-penis."
>>42041930I'm not reading any of your stupid bullshit if you are a tranny. Performative misandry is why our lives are so fucking miserable.
>>42041810> as a man if I don't become a mass produced soulless emotionless ATM who provides for women ... I am a subhuman killer freak and need to be put in prison or killed ... Do you know who it is that says these things, enforces these things?(ur not a man) but for me, it was men who said that.. yeah.my pastor. my father. men in my church. they said that was my role and purpose and i had to be able to suffer for them. to protect/provide for women and family was my purpose. they "trained" me to be able to suffer for others. to be a good "godly" worker.i was supposed to get a job and have a family or serve the church.and women were supposed to serve me at home (no church serving or job having) and pump out babies and shut up if men did anything to them.. it was disgusting.> Women don't like soft emotional men so they beat and torture boys into becoming the traumatized monsters that they imagine oppress them and then blame boys for existing against their will.women perpetuate it too i know.. but it was my dad who trained this into me. and i know his father did before him. men perpetuate it as well. (and his father would fuck off randomly so it's not like his mother was in control of him)it benefits them because they do put themselves in positions of power. though yes women do get the "protected" role... it doesn't mean they are safeidk. ig i don't rly want to try to convince u of anything..i do understand that feeling of jealousy towards cis women who got to grow up more outwardly queer and have less horrific violence directed at them.. yeah :(
>>42041810>>42041949Strong evidence that males who were damaged as children shouldn't be allowed to troon out. Ever. They're too unstable.
>>42041949i'm not misandristic i don't hate men... :\ i don't hate women eitheri hate the system that punishes both genders in different ways (and especially deviation from them)
>>42041963> anon wants unstable "males" who were violently abused by women to be depressed dysphoric jealous - increasingly moreso over time - who already hate women - to have testosterone in their system and get even more dysphoric (and jealous)wow great idea!!!!
>>42041973You need psychiatric help, not sex change as a warped reaction to try to escape the memory of abuse.
>>42041963males are unstable molested or not anyway
>>42041922programming is for agps id just get killed for being a fag or what ever in ur scenario. whatever the “crimes of women” are i totally participate in cus i partially socially transitoned at 14>>42041949misandry is lit as fuck tho
>>42041979> trans kid comes out as trans bc they had dysphoria> horrific stuff ensues because of it> sent to conversion camp> "we need to send them to therapy for this!!!"> "we need to abuse young trans kids MORE that will surely stop the trans issue"are you retarded genuinely why do you think that would help? can you not read?t.nta
>>42041992>I say misandrist stuff and I transitioned slightly earlier than median so I am a girl teeheesilence, bottom
>>42041992>i partially socially transitoned at 14lmao lil jeep grew out his hair and wore makeup in high school!!!>>42041993>trans kid comes out as trans bc they had dysphoriaactual trans kids aren't dysphoric, lil jeep
>>42040961when you copy your homework from chat gpt you should edit it a bit to make it less obvious
>>42040961This sounds a little ridiculous, but I think there are some hints of truth in here about how sexism can cut both ways and how some feminists have manipulated the essentialist gender norms for their own ends rather than seeking to dismantle them.
>>42040961>here's my dumb unsubstantiated opinion in book form, please ignore the plethora of contradictory dataclassic culture war grifter.
>>42041999but im unironically misandrist and yeah i am a girl why r u malding r u jealous. how is bottom an insult?>>42042003On “lil jeep,” Peep shows in a chorus filled with jealousy his love for Emma Harris, as well as the pain he feels when seeing her with other boys. It is during a Masked Gorilla interview, given for the fourth anniversary of the album, that Peep’s mother confirmed the identity of the girl Gus is referring to
>>42041024No such thing, they are faggots
>>42042003>actual trans kids aren't dysphoric, lil jeepactual transgenders aren't sissy pedophiles nigger
>>42042100actual transsexuals are intershits who only transition after repeatedly trying and failing to make it as adult members of their birth sex
>>42041431Yet everything you described would had been so much worse if you were an afab. You would had been pregnant, and forced to incubate or forced to abort against your will.Thats your amab priviledge.Why even bother calling yourself an mtf you are clearly a man, not a female.
>>42042112>t. pedophile "hussy" or chaseri don't respect your opinions, go to r/sissy where you belong and kys
>>42042116true mtf transsexuals love menthey love them so much yet they cannot serve them adequately as men, for they are too feminine to be up to the task as menso they transitionmany are male chauvinistsbecause females made their childhoods and adolescences horrible by siccing weak-minded males on them>>42042122stop grooming kids and trying to make them look permanently underdeveloped you sick pedo fuck
>>42041431>The entirety of human society is women dehumanizing and controlling and subjugating men.Yet there are no 100000 people telegram group chats of women asking people to rape their spouses, no 100000 group chats of women making child abuse material of their own kids.Violence that males face is mostly from other men and not systemic, unlike the violence that women experience.There are no men dying cause a male might be pregnant and doctors are scared to treat them.And this is just in first world western countries.
>>42042112>>42042003yk i was gonna acc reply to this but i honestly can’t afford the cortisol spike im just gonna shower and eat and go to bed u sound really annoying and retarded and u should like probably stop being like that or something cause it’s not good for you>>42042145real shit tell them
>>42042145exctly
>>42042156truth hurts huh lil jeeperino
>>42041810>Women aren't punished for masculinity AT ALLYet for some reason trans men (masc females), enbies and wlw women are the most raped groups of people specially cause men try teach them their place. Their SA stats are way above any male (cis men or trans women)Males cry cause they are seen as rapists but females cry cause they are raped etc
being transgender is homophobicit suggests gayness is a social disease cured medically by chemical castration
>>42042112It’s weird that some people seem to think transitioning because of extrinsic circumstances like being unable to fit in as one’s assigned birth sex or wanting to fuck straight guys is more “valid” than doing it out of an intrinsic motivation like desire to resemble/become the opposite sex or despair and distress at possessing the traits of one’s natal sex.
>>42042203bruh transition was the only way for me to look like a real adult after male puberty stopped partway through and trt didn't help
>>42042206cissoids think the innate and natural is truethey are tied down by their obsession over what they view as "truth" and will forever be blind to full self actualization
>>42042131>true mtf transsexuals love menI hate men.
>>42042206>desire to resemble/become the opposite sex or despair and distress at possessing the traits of one’s natal sex.An autosexual paraphilia is indeed less valid as a reason to transition.
>>42042209>i never looked male to begin withthere's no reason to take you seriously you just want to justify your weird sexist larpingwhat I don't get is why you think others are just gonna eventually give in and regard you as something you are notI will go to my grave never calling a penisborn male a she
>>42042211okay lil jeep
>>42042222you're never even gonna know.
>>42042212Why, because it’s sexual and therefore le bad?
>>42042228I can always tell if I can examine you in motion fully and clearly in good lighting for at least a minute. I know exactly what to look for and have carefully evaluated irl masculine afabs to know the difference. Trannies are delusional autists who think they are tricking everyone around them. I will never be tricked.
>>42041964pretending patriarchy exists is misandry. we live in a gynarchy and its ridiculous peiple pretend otherwise. women have all the social power and zero responsibility. its a misandrist lie to deny something as obvious as this. like saying water isnt wet: aggressive gaslighting.
>>42042244"Dysphoria" can be relieved by periodically cross-dressing and jerking off. It's how support groups used to stabilize it and keep members from trooning out.>>42042250No, you can't always tell. You are as autistic as stereotypical transbians.
>>42042259yes i can, chromosomes have physical effects that surgeries and hormones cannot fully deletei have a highly sophisticated brain trained algorithmically to suss out fakes and fraudsyou will never be a woman >>42042254based
>>42042268confidently incorrect autistic "opinion" discarded
>>42042189just go outside no one cares about this irl. regular ppl know what gender dysphoria is now and basic cis girls fuck with hunter schafer like no one rlly gaf. women r gonna think ur weird for having these strange beliefs it’s rlly clocky and just weirdeating cheese and crackers rn btw
>>42042259If you’re saying it’s a less legitimate reason on the grounds that there are alternatives that should satisfy it other than transition, then that should apply doubly to that extrinsically motivated group since it can be fixed as easily as ameliorating those outside circumstances. One might even argue that the apparent diminishment in the number of the typical “HSTS” trans woman in the western world is because of increased acceptance of gay people accomplishing this, although I suspect this argument would rely on at least one false premise.
>>42042254Yet its only men making the laws and decisions hahaha
>>42042290hunter schafer is clocky af to everyone except jeeps come on now
>>42042291Cool, go fix society and then I'll detransition. Shame about the neovag but oh well.
>>42042303The main point is, why should anyone accept you as a woman if you would still be a man in an ideal society without any issue? By your own admission you’re just a man cynically making himself resemble a woman out of material self-interest rather than a woman who just so happened to have been a man.
>>42042298no one cares if ur like 5-10% clocky. ppl think she looks cool and she’s a loved fashion model. u aren’t getting my point
>>42042313They just kinda do accept me as a woman, regardless of "should."
>>42042314You don't bag a husband by being 5-10% clocky
>>42042330Do you think they ought to accept you as a woman, or is that a mistake on their part that happens to benefit you? And if they should, why?
>>42042344I think that if they perceive me as female without prompting then it probably makes sense for them to view me as a woman.
>>42042354So it’s all about whether or not you pass rather than motivation for transitioning, is that right? Or is a passing AGP still undeserving of being considered a woman because of the invalidity of their motivations for transitioning?
>>42042342i think you have a strong blockage in ur bottom four chakras specifically the heart chakra and an overactive throat and third eye chakra..
>>42042370I think they transitioned for detestable reasons, but if they pass then they pass. They just tend not to pass.
>>42041024>Free from itOh, you poor summer child
>>42041289Lmao
>>42042382What makes those reasons detestable? I think we kind of skipped over this question earlier.
>>42042145>no 100000 group chats of women making child abuse material of their own kidsThose do exist. And even bigger than that.You're seriously underestimating the propensity and the fascination of AFABs to abuse their sons in particular.
>>42042131>stop grooming kids and trying to make them look permanently underdeveloped you sick pedo fuckstop projecting your fetishes on teenagers sissynigger
>>42042259>It's how support groups used to stabilize it and keep members from trooning out.I wish it were that simple, anon.But it's not. And it gets progressively worse with age, not better.t. still repper but not for much longer
>>42040961She got so many death threats over that book she fled to Argentina
>>42042418Women are okay with child sex abuse as long as it is women doing it to boys. Because they don't even consider boys to be human beings they literally completely forget abusing them is even possible. I said as much in my post.
>>42042423stop grooming kids into chemically castrating themselves, pedo
>>42042397AGP is a paraphilia. They're using medical resources to indulge a paraphilia.
>>42042471And why is that bad? Those resources are quite abundant, their use in transition is largely a repurposing of their much more common uses in other areas. Viagra is used to treat pulmonary hypertension, but you seldom see anyone suggest that its usage in sex is particularly repugnant.
>>42042498Surgery waitlists are well over a year at some providers now.
>>42042511And who are those surgeries necessary for, and why? Actually, to go back to your previous point, if the non-AGP trans women are transitioning purely out of material self-interest, how are those surgeries any more medically necessary for them than any cosmetic surgery?
>>42040961It’s ironic that, despite you saying all this, you still just want the ‘easy ride’ women apparently get. You’re no man.
>>42042548this anon is a perfect example of what the book describes. "youre no man if you dont cdlebrste your slavery". women manipulate like they breathe.
Most men should troon. Then the remaining men can have harems of women and former men
>>42042577This so much lol.. Labor and die for nothing in return from someone who doesn't even like you or you are a pussy!
>>42042418Kek, show us the proof! Wait, what is it? You cannot cause its not real? Of course
>>42042625Nonody is forcing you to do anything. If pussy motivates men so much, its their own problem. I think men should maybe stop doing 99% of violent crimes first, then we could seek for some peace.
>>42042511Anyway, if you ever answer >>42042540 then I’ll see it tomorrow, I’ve been up too late having this discussion. Before I go, I want to leave this post by good ol’ Blanchard, whose research must be noted as the sole source of evidence with any sort of claim to scientific rigor (though that has been disputed) for the AGP/HSTS typology which we have implicitly assumed for the purposes of this discussion.For what it’s worth, this was a very interesting conversation and I wish you a good night.
>>42042596Men can have men. Females are not sexually attracted to males. I rather just make baby with another woman since they can make sperm out of skincells now. Males can keep fucking whatever and beating each other up
>>42042649>I think men should maybe stop doing 99% of violent crimes first, then we could seek for some peace.*continues to gush geysers of vagina juice over violent rapists and vote for soft on crime parties who let rapists out*
>>42042223what's sad is lil' (more like 6'3" Freakazoid) Jeep is still seeking AMaBs while hating menLikeYou resent the second-most proximal gender to yourself
>>42042654>can't fuck a plushieI pity you...
>>42042145>Yet there are no 100000 people telegram group chats of women asking people to rape their spouses, no 100000 group chats of women making child abuse material of their own kids.those groups are outlaws, and you're exaggerating the scale anywayin a patriarchy, they would be institutional, but in our reality, women control the institutionsthat is why pedophilia accusations on a common man are radioactive but female pedophiles get a slap on the wristit's why the family courts always presume the man is the abuser and never the womanit's why lolicon is banned but women fantasizing about underage child rape is "celebrated fanfic"it's why pretty girls are banned in films and games but everything panders to female perverts from rape fantasy novels (50 shades etc) to one sided sexualizing of menetc
>>42042710>over violent rapists and vote for soft on crime parties who let rapists out*Thatd the only kind of men there is so might as well
>>42042649Women are forcing us into it, actually. I was the one sent to the conversion camp. I haven't even talked about my 20s as a non passing tranny or the terrible shit women do for fun to ugly gender non conforming men. I spent so many years of my life homeless and jobless because women wanted the ugly queer faggot to man up because only women are human beings who deserve freedom of expression.
>>42042748It's not because women control the world, but because men are just more violent and criminal than women.
>>42042757that's plainly false, most men are not violent criminalsit's women stopping 99% of men putting the bad actors out of the way, because women want to fuck violent rapist murderersit's also women voting for mass invasion of foreign rapists because women get wet over the idea of dark foreign invaders killing their own men in a fight over who gets to use their cuntswomen have no loyalty, they never needed to, since even if the invaders win, only the men diewomen are the enemies of peace and civilization
>>42042748>female pedophilesHardly any of those compared to men. >it's why the family courts always presume the man is the abuser and never the womanYet man is more likely to get custody if he so wishes and telling about abuse in court is considered trying to alienate the father, its almost like it completely favors males. >it's why pretty girls are banned in films and gamesIn what incel world that has happened
>>42042771>it's also women voting for mass invasion of foreign rapistsI didn't know women were the owners of construction companies and restaurants.Really makes you think, these women must really hate paying taxes and having contracted workers.Thankfully men are not like that and would never use an migrants as a cheap and convenient labor force.God, what a retarded moid you are...
>>42042771At least foreign men are more honest of their violent nature vs western men who try to pretend like they don't do 98% of all the violence
>>42042779>>female pedophiles>Hardly any of those compared to men.this is only true because of the way we defined pedophiliavisual depiction of it is banned, text is finewomen can jack off to millions of perfectly legal stories about 11 year old fictional boys raping each other while men get fucked for visual depictions of anything vaguely illegali would say nearly all women are pedophiles if we were going by a more sensible definition >Yet man is more likely to get custody if he so wishes and telling about abuse in court is considered trying to alienate the father, its almost like it completely favors males.look up the duluth model>In what incel world that has happenedoh please
>>42042796>while men get fucked for visual depictions of anything vaguely illegalYe, maybe don't view child porn or use ai to create it (it used real children)
>>42042796>i would say nearly all women are pedophiles if we were going by a more sensible definitionWomen are clearly the good pedos since they don't go around raping kids. Good job women for having self control, unlike men
>>42042807>>use ai to create it (it used real children)>if i use ai to create a picture of a cat eating a carrot it must have used real pictures of cats eating carrotsanyway purely drawn from the imagination lolicon is just as illegal, whereas all womens underage rape text is totes legalwomen just get a free pass for being pedos
>>42040961Vilar doesn't cite a single empirical datum in this book. Sigh.
>>42042830many such cases
>>42042827>anyway purely drawn from the imagination lolicon is just as illegalNot in my country, christfag
>>42042793>the owners of construction companies and restaurants.who make up 0.1% of the population, whereas women are the ones voting for mass invasion because hordes of foreign men arriving makes them wet
>>42042577I'm MtF, so whatever. You're dumb as hell if you think men are more oppressed than women.
>>42042991men are far, far more oppressed than any woman iswomen are "oppressed" by receiving unwanted sexual attention or the vague threat of violence, even though we have police and a whole criminal justice system of men walking around with guns to protect women from violence and unwanted sexand big brick and stone buildings with judges to lock men who hurt women in cages for years eating slop
>>42043096Haha I wish males were opressed but no
>>42040961These are all things that women CAN do but an actual loving relationship would involve trusting her NOT to
>>42041289Nope. I think this is totally accurate. Independently wealthy women are all dykes, and all of their foundations and activism are just a projection of their obsession with women.
>>42043101we cut penises not clitoral hoods
>>42043131Female genital mutilation is way worse than your little ceremonial bullshit
Well, this board is cooked.Men are chronically retarded, and as for trannies, I don't think I'll ever see them as their target gender again. Mind you, I came here back in the day as mildly supportive.Have a nice day.
>>42043165Don't let one retard tranny change your mind
>>42043144the clitoral hood and the foreskin are homologous tissue with equivalent sensationonly one is legally severed in all countriestransgenderism is a misandrist cult that seeks to castrate males to punish them for imagined sexual crimes against the matriarchy that controls all of our lives and makes us collectively miserable even if you simp hard for them they still hate all of us for being amabs
>>42041667I think this kind of abusive behavior is common in both men and women now. The stereotype of the Leon Kowalski wife beater type is WAY fucking outdated. It’s basically impossible to hit a woman now. All abuse is emotional abuse. We as a a society cracked the fuck down on wife and child beating, which is good you know, but the result is that abusive parents have just gotten more tactful and now everyone abuses like women abuse. But the twist is: women are getting away with it. Men aren’t. Everybody and their mother knows how to spot a male manipulator now but we NEVER ever even so much as talk about female manipulators. It’s so fucked up.>>42041431Yes this is the shadow that hangs over the world. It’s the boomer mindset, the Rob Reiner mindset. Women are simultaneously helpless victims of patriarchy and also empowered girlbosses who are superior to men. Aka a society that worships women, WRIT LARGE, for no reasonI’m sorry for what happened to you anon and I’m sorry, just sorry
>>42043144>Permanently mutilating male babies to make their genitals disfunctional is okay and not that big of a deal because doing the same to female babies to worse>Even though one is practiced in most important and "civilized" countries of the world that can spread their propaganda worldwide and daring to suggest maybe we shouldn't mutilate babies for no reason gets you ostracized and labeled as a weirdo>And the other is practiced only in shitty third world countries (that women want to import men from btw) and is seen universally as evil and cruel
>>42040961jesus fuck this entire thread is just a load of "my trauma is worse than your trauma"is it perhaps possible that everyone has it bad in unique ways and we should work together on improving society somewhat?
>>42043171>one
>>42043238we cannot improve society without overthrowing the matriarchy and oppressing females to give them a taste of their own medicine
>>42043253Opressing females is the only thing moids know how to do. Its literally all they do
Why is this bothering me so much? I’m not like those women I don’t want that, I hate being generalized about
>>42043253This>>42043269I mean, we also invented basically everything so there's that
>>42043269>Opressing females is the only thing moids know how to doif only we actually did it
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>>42043096Society when 5 men are murdered for every women that's murdered: