>republicans are trying to kill usWe need to banned together and protest the new ban
>>42043544There is no 'new ban'.This is a performative measure that is going to die in the senate.Please learn about how the political system works.
>>42043552Regardless, the fact that they even tried there should be remembered and should be punished by the way & they need to be destroyed for literally everything they've done so far
You guys suck
>>42043594Grifter echosystem>transphobic lawyers and politicians get paid to draft bills that will never go anywhere, the more extreme the more attention they get>trans influencers get paid to sell fear and doomsday rhetoric, the more extreme the more attention they getat least gooner influencers like finn and co. arent weaponizing fear to milk the trans community
>>42043640Instead they weaponize lonliness and horniness, only slightly less bad
>>42043552Wow that makes me feel better about the "kill all trannies, TTD now"-bill
>>42043544They are trying to kill you by protecting miniors WTF?
>>42043544How exactly are they trying to kill you?
>4 republicans voted againstExpected this to pass, but didn't expect 4 republicans to vote against it lmao.
>>42043544I thought medical transition wasnt happening for minors anyway, just social?
>>42043825You must be pretty new to tranny stuff, some folks do get hormones or puberty delayers as kids with family consent. It's not common but every tranny wishes this was them because these folks bypass puberty which is really good for passing but obviously it gives normies the ick.
>>42043844also i guess its just nice to not have to waste your teenage years living in the wrong meat shell like most of us did
>>42043715>protecting minorslmao>>42043807LMAO>>42043825MEGAKEKthanks for the laughs. you retards can go back now.
>>42043844>but obviously it gives normies the ick.Yeah, most people think sterilizing children and cutting off the healthy breasys if young girls is icky, who would have thought.
>>42043855i mean, its not common and these aren't really normal kids your dealing with (they do get screened to make sure its genuine and all that). Even with it being legal most of the time trannies end up waiting until adulthood anyways, this is more the exception than anything.
>>42043861I agree, the average of transitioning is 30. Literally no reason to allow minors to do it.
>>42043873Well why wouldn't you? If you can't come up with a reason for the government to invervene, it shouldn't.
>>42043844>every tranny wishes this was themUntrue, some trans ppl for example voice their pride in biological children they had as adults before transitioning. Also I have never seen anyone express a wish they were jazz for example.
>>42043544>its just performativeit is and it isnt, its not meant to pass at this moment but it is new that a bill like this is proposed, written up, and successfully voted on, and then pass the house on top of thatthe failure to understand politics here is to believe the aspect of performance isnt important in and of itself, its further normalization of the concept of banning hrt for minors, which is itself in service of the concept of banning hrt for trannies in generalthe long term goal has been and remains to eliminate hrt for trannies outright, and this is simply further progression towards that goal, i seriously dont understand how trannies are STILL doing the "erm akshully they wont get rid of me" thing, like are you guys just seriously not putting two and two together and figuring out theyre literally slowly working towards making transitioning outright criminal? either by the end of trumps presidency or partway through the next right wing presidency you will NOT be able to obtain hrt as a troon in the us, i %100 guarantee itstg trannies are so dumb sometimes i think they deserve this shit, thank god theyre sterile
>>42043877Minors can't consent to sterilization or the many other side effects and complications from hormones and surgeries. It's so obvious. To justify this harm you have to give a very strong reason as to why these minors need such extreme treatments, and there's no good reason whatsoever. These procedures are about aesthetics in the first place, they are not curing any physical and tangible danger.
>>42043911Trve sadly constantly suffering is the trans experience and to try and prevent that regardless of casualties is transphobia.
>>42043853>LMAOthat’s what I thought. Y’all can’t argue for shit. Just throw random attacks and over exaggerate every little bit of media
>>42043934I don’t talk to retards, sorry lil bro. You still have to go back btw
>>42043855>oh my, not the healthy untouched teenage breastsNobody thinks like that pedophile
>>42043911The government of Utah commissioned of study which found it to be quite capable of being a net negative due to the mental benefit (similar to trany stuff for adults). I don't get all this opposition to things that sort of just work.
>>42043950>I don’t talk to retardsClearly introspection isn’t a common practice in your lifeAlso go back to where?
>>42043977Isn’t the government of Utah controlled by a bunch of conservative Mormons?
>>42043855>>42043891>>42043923Absolutely nobody is jealous of John 50's, get it through your head that not everyone wants the height of their existence to be "being breedmule chattel" and you might begin to comprehend the conversation being had. If happiness to you is basically being a mindless pig then fine, but don't try to force that shit on others
>>42044027John 50 with kids and a military carewe wasnt dysphoric as a kid, so they’re not the same patient as the dysphoric child. So john 50 saying i wish i transitioned as 10 shouldnt guide the treatment as it means nothing. But at the same time, Im right in that people dont envy jazz. The trans people envied are rich and transitioned as adults, albeit not 50.
>>42043985>ermmm clearly introspection isn’t ermmmYou are onions and type like a redditfag. Go back now, faggot
>>42044067You really don't know how John50s work, do you? Most are dysphoric for life but didn't even have knowledge on what transition really was (plus social pressures) so just repped for most of their lives.
>>42043544No one here started transition as a minor.
>>42044098> Most are dysphoric for lifeFalse> didn't even have knowledge on what transition really wasThis is such a fucking lie. Trannies have been in the public consciousness for damn near 70 years. And even if you didn’t know what a tranny is, people were trooning out from their dysphoria BEFORE trannies were in the public consciousness. This is such a fucking cope. The truth of John 50s is many of them are narcissistic, have a midlife crisis, and/or goon themselves into trooning with excessive porn and then they start to skin walk their wives and daughters.
>>42044094>Go back now, faggotCompelling argument. >You are onions and type like a reddit fagOh no, you were dropped as a child sorry I didn’t mean to pick on the mentally challenged my bad
>>42044098>if the 7yo doesnt get hrt they’ll suicide out of depression>the 50yo who never suicided but rather had a long lucrative career and social life, married with children etcthese are the same person somehow???
>>42044067>"B-b-but John 50 has a cool m-m-medhul"And a terrible marriage & kids that hate their repper parents to match retard, but at least he got to rape a few Brown kids in Iraq in between schizo meltdowns. Also picking Jazz Jennings when plenty of people with stale trade places with her in a heartbeat is hilarious, the only reason she got on popular was because she got obese and had complications because of it. I love how you ignore Hunter schafer Consani, Ethel Cain or basically every other well known youngshit considering they're objectively the best off cohort of trans people, not dysfunctional reppers.
>>42044124>7yo>HRTYou may be retarded
>>42044117And you made them that way retard. This is what happens when you try to ban youth transition & push conversion therapy. John 50's are the dysfunction that your society caused. You and everything that your useless hands try to build will be nothing but worthless failures, if you want things to turn out well stay the fuck away from the building process you idiot & leave trans people & our healthcare alone forever or deal with the consequences.
>>42044147Thanks for proving my point. Hunter didnt go on pb and doesnt appear to have started medical transition as a minor at all. So as I said you dont envy the actual minor transitioners like jazz, you admire people that are rich. >>42044151PB* now address the point.Why is it impossible to accept that some people are afflicted with GD as a kid and some as an adult?
ITT: retards arguing about hypothetical J50 shitwe should just put chuds and troons in the thunderdome and determine who is right via trial by combat
>>42043977These extremely short term studies don't mean shit. When you tell a kid "you have this super special condition, you'll get to be part of this super special community", etc, of course they'll like it, even more so if they were always awkward autists. Let's see how they are feeling 20 years from now, if they are even alive that is.
>>420441727yos don't take puberty blockers outside of precocious puberty (and puberty blockers are the standard treatment for that regardless of GD status) either, dumbfuck
>>42044181>You have this "super special condition">It's the condition that makes everyone hate you>You will lose basically all community you have with everyone you knowThis is not encouraging
>>42044027>Absolutely nobody is jealous of John 50'sThey don't need to wait until 50, they need to wait until they are adults. Can you just let kids fucking alone?
>>42044183Ok it doesnt happen, so no harm in banning it
>>42044005Yes, they were quite surprised when the study they paid for gave the opposite result of what they expected. The promptly decided to ignore it and vote to ban trooning for teens anyways though, it's all feels over reals with righttards.
>>42044192>>It's the condition that makes everyone hate you>>You will lose basically all community you have with everyone you knowExcept if they are transitioning as minors they have "supporting" parents who will make sure they live inside a hugbox.
>>42044198>it’s feels over reals with righttards Cause lefties are always the rational ones and never bring emotion into play
>>42044124suicide is not the only outcome; lifelong dysphoric depression is the norm among those who repress. nb neither of these things are good. children deserve access to healthcare that can avert both entirely.>>42044194willful ignorance; puberty blockers ARE prescribed for preteens.
>>42044124The 50yo is an exhibistionistic sissy with a compulsive obsession with developing girls, which can happen with lifelong depression and should not be an aspired outcome
>>42044151These "people" are incubating parasites unseen in humans for thousands of years because they were stupid enough to start eating raw meat and dairy are they still narcissistically believe that they should determine anything in Society because nothing gets through their thick skulls and "me me me" complexes except a whip>>42044172>Hunter didn't go on hrt or pb as a minorYou do know her tall stature is owed to being on puberty blockers right?I swear every immigrant struggling in some field should be given a real job so animals like you can be treated like the beast of burden you truly are. It's not like you contribute anything of real value.>>42044193No the fuck we won't, we determine our own healthcare and will leave trash like you the fuck behind. Cry about it.
>>42044241Every famous trans person still admits to dysphoria despite 10+ years of transitioning. And it hasnt been proven that john 50 was a depressed repper when 10yo, its just taken as a premise that john 50 must necessarily have been. This isnt science, its a dogmatic premise.Without the dogma we’d say some get dysphoria as a kid, some later in life.
>>42044261>John50s report dysphoria during the childhood>Blanchtards accuse them of lyingEvery time
>>42044258Are you retarded? You think hunter being tall is proof they were on PB, when being tall is actually just expected of males from the same heritage?
>>42044258Lil bro so mad rn
>>42043544sabre should kill herselfdiy is good if it a available, but the admin could very easily crack down on it and fuck us all. diy needs to remain dl
>>42044269Hunter is proof that early transition doesn't work
>>42043544Why do you people constantly threaten violence on others but when someone tries to stop you from abusing minors you call it genocide and have a screaming and crying meltdown?
>>42044267I’d believe it if it was recorded as a child. But lacking that and objective manifestations of depression I disbelieve it. But keep in mind, its not intentional lying per se. Its a matter of interpretation. If you start with the premise that every john 50 MUST have been a trans child, them they necessarily MUST have been dysphoric and simply repressed the memories.So the problem is the premise(it being unproven and not plausible), rather than john being an intentional liar.
>>42044294All trannies lie about their childhoods.What actually matters is being physically and behaviorally involuntarily gnc to the point that it causes problems functioning.Dysphoria doesn't count. Demanding to cross-dress or do opposite sex activities doesn't count.
>>42044117>Trannies have been in the public consciousness for damn near 70 yearsNonsense.70 years ago was 1955. There was ONE single case of a tranny somewhat discussed in public at the time. And it was discussed ONCE. Those who missed the TV report, missed it and that was it. You can't even find that show anymore. It's been lost.It's ridiculous to claim trannies have been in public consciousness for 70 years. It's simply not true.
>>42044294Given that we have so much independent reporting of childhood dysphoria from John50s either manifesting at identity formation (ages 4-6) or the onset of puberty (10-13), the simplest explanation is that those who report childhood dysphoria, especially when there's no gatekeeping based on it, are likely not making it up.
>>42044301If your philosophy relies on the belief that an entire demographic is lying to you, then your philosophy is poorly constructed.
>>42044312That reporting is from the time they were children? Or postdated stories? Huge difference
>>42044312Or they all copied each other's notes, which has been going on since the 1970s. Patients who are not lying do not all present with identical backstories.>>42044325Always postdated.
>>42044261???? transition is not a cure for dysphoria it is a treatmentyour argument is "this helpful thing doesn't completely solve the problem so we should throw it out entirely because it is better for people to suffer MORE actually"i'm trying to be nice here but you clearly do not understand gender dysphoria at all. which is fine, because, like, why would you, but if you are going to argue for the outright ban of something you should understand how it works and the condition it treats first. dysphoria may linger for a multitude of reasons. someone like i who went through puberty entirely, for example, am obviously going to have a good deal of lingering dysphoria post-transition due to the fact that i had absolutely no chance of preventing my body from masculinizing irreversibly. plus and also hrt does not turn your penis into a vagina. i still hate the thing. were i to transition earlier, i could at least have had a body i felt more comfortable living in.also i don't know or care about John 50 i'm talking about people in general. lurk and you will see so many accounts of posters who repressed and transitioned later out of misery. and i have no contention with the idea that dysphoria presents later in life, anyhow. some people do only realize as adults. that doesn't mean i didn't want a vagina as a five-year-old.
>>42044294>I’d believe it if it was recorded as a childSeriously?So now we're supposed to encourage parents to film/"record" the most embarrassing and weird experiences of their children on the off-chance that they might be trans and will need that record to convince you?Sounds creepy af.>>42044301>All trannies lie about their childhoodsYou met all trannies?I actually do have pictures and psychiatric documentation going back to 1994 or '95 that I was consistent with gender identity disorder (as it was known then).But I was lucky to be in a more privileged upbringing that could afford to access such services.Most were not that lucky.
>>42044331How do we determine failure contra success of this treatment? Eg jammidodger still has clinical depression from dysphoria despite passing and having had hormones and surgery for 13 years. Is that a failure or a success?
>>42044250Lol, these retards are a bunch repping faggots pissing themselves because the globe is rightfully leaving them behind. In a world with trans youth rights and OTC hrt their "masculine suffering" gets revealed for how pathetic, juvenile and worthless it's always been. In fact, current conditions will only create a generation of transsexuals that have absolutely zero sympathy for future reppers and John 50's. Once that happens, repper genocide can commence.>>42044269I know you're a f****** idiot, who understands absolutely nothing about the world but I'll try to get this through your head. Puberty blockers cause continuous bone growth because they block pubertal joint closure aka they make you tall. Compare Hunter's height and proportions with most of her relatives male and female & you'll see what I mean.
>>42044326>there is a nationwide flu epidemic, what do we do!>no, you idiot, they are lying, they all have identical symptoms
>>42044326>Or they all copied each other's notes, which has been going on since the 1970s. Patients who are not lying do not all present with identical backstories.I only heard of this recently. It does seem to be a real phenomenon, just not one as old as you describe.The way I heard is because I went myself for a diagnosis and the psychiatrist casually remarked that my story is indeed unique.t. repper who is done with repping
>>42044326Yes, thousands of people, who often had no communication with each other, *somehow* copied each other's notes when reporting on their childhood experiences even when there was no barrier to access. This is both logical and sane to believe.
>>42044280Ok then, enjoy getting gutted in your sleep when you deny your kids healthcare.
>>42044339By records I obviously meant medical records from their childhood where they were supposedly clinically depressed. I mean seriously, you couldnt think of this before assuming I was asking for home videos??
>>42044348You do comparative studies in populations. We have data from surveys that show that those who transition earlier in life are less likely to engage in self destructive behaviors like binge drinking and drug use as well as reporting fewer psychiatric issues.
