from what i can tell i am wholly nb. i feel an immense amount of dysphoria about people perceiving me as a guy. this is basically the only trans feeling i have. when i dress more femme i feel relieved that i am farther away from being perceived as a guy. when ive had people use she/her n stuff i dont feel dysphoria but it makes me cringe because i know i dont pass at all and i can feel how others are just doing a performance just to appease me. if i could id be a theymab but since no one ever takes a theymab seriously i think that being a passing trans woman is my best bet for not feeling dysphoria. also i have good enough features to be able to pass once im on estrogen for a couple years.
>>42044999>also i have good enough features to be able to pass once im on estrogen for a couple years.lol
>>42044999also i act feminine. i had mostly female friends growing up and so ive just picked up on it and now its my default. currently i hold back from being super flamboyant because i dont wanna be called a fag again
>>42045012i feel like thats a valid part to bring up tho? im not trying to make those who cant pass feel bad
>>42045040You are most likely a malnourished male who thinks being thin is the same as being feminine.
>>42045012>>42045040orr were you impying im lying? i dont wanna post myself. can you for the sake of this thread just believe me?
>>42045090I'll see you in the manmoder thread in a year anon
>>42044999Do it I guess, I'm in the same boat and doing the same thing, I rather be perceived as a woman than a man anyways, I wouldn't even mind tits
>>42045101ughhh fine ill post myself, maybe itll give better judgement on if i should try
>>42045119and like yes i know i dont pass now but i really dont think im fucked to be a hon>>42045118yeah same,
>>42045133You've got honfidence I'll give you thatYou'll prolly land in twinkhon territory
>>42045140whats exactly holding my face back? cus from what i can tell i look feminine for my ethnic group (greek)
>>42045161You look like a grumpy boy with long hair.
>>42045176 okay so i feel like you are just trolling cus we both understand we are talking about years down the road with estrogen and maybe ffs. on top of that i could use make up. like obviously i look like a guy rn? i never said i passed
>>42045118what made you decide to transition?
>>42045198>grumpy boy>"I have good enough features to transition!"
>>42045330well i still dont see your point? most people who end up passing looked like a boy before hrtanyways heres me smiling (:
>>42045119cute as fuck, lots of potentialHOWEVER, I'm a cis guy, and this may be a bit of an old school take, but you shouldnt stumble-logicize your way into being transthere's a lot of room to play with inner self-perception, and outward self-expression, of gender, and you shouldnt feel like you have to prove that youre really a woman to your yourself nor to anyone elsebasically it just seems like you're in an eager rush to force self-identityalso how that ass look??
>>42045290I hated being a man so much, everything felt wrong which led me to being so scared and depressed during my teens that I messed up high school and couldn't even look myself in the mirror, everything was wrong and it felt like I was being forced to be someone I despised, the moment I got on HRT which mind you was only a recently was pure bliss, I'm happy I'm still young enough to do this at 19 but it's so good being able to feel again, it quite literally cured a brainfog i I had for years and I'm pretty sure it's only going to get better from here
>>42045368>cute as fuck, lots of potentialthank u (: ig the other anon was just being mean>you shouldnt stumble-logicize your way into being transhmm idrk what u mean>you're in an eager rush to force self-identityi am, i feel really dysphoric so im trying to fix it fast>also how that ass look??i dont post nudes but since you were really nice ill send this. you can get an idea
>>42045382omg seriously? i ordered e for the first time a couple days ago. i really really hoping for this effect. thank you for hope (:
>>42045355ngl you look like a cis woman to me
>>42045433bbygurl wtf is you wearinglooks like something someone squarely between a king and a peasant would wear in the 17th century>hmm idrk what u meanyou're trying to make the puzzle fit the pieces, when it should be vice-versa
>>42045513its like the only pic i have that shows my butt from the sidethis pic kinda is better. i dont really have any good outfits atm
>>42045501really?? thank u (: idk y the other anon was so presistent that i wnmi
>>42044999youre describing what it feels like to be trans>>42045119>>42045355>>42045541giga luckshit. start diy hrt and voice training now and never look back. also dont post yourself on 4chin
>>42045588>youre describing what it feels like to be transreally? cus i see ppl talking about feeling super euphoria being a trans woman or agp n stuff. i just feel dysphoria>giga luckshit. start diy hrt and voice training now and never look back. also dont post yourself on 4chinthank u, i didnt really want to post myself but i felt like i had to make a point. do you think since im giga luckshit im basically guaranteed to pass?
>>42044999youre describing what it feels like to be trans>>42045119>>42045355>>42045541holy luckshit. start diy hrt and voice training now and never look back. also dont post yourself on 4chin
>>42045616>i just feel dysphoriathats what being trans is. all the other bullshit is whatever, dysphoria is what makes you trans and why people transition. and ye youre gonna pass just go for it>>42045626sorry for the double post i fucked up with the new captcha
>>42045616are you looking for someone to tell you that you are a tranny or just perspective? it’s pretty common to just have dysphoria over being perceived male, and feel nothing at the idea of being perceived female. it usually changes as your transition progresses. but i am coming at this from the idea that transition was what i wanted
>>42045686>are you looking for someone to tell you that you are a tranny or just perspective? i guess both. i wanna know if ill regret transitioning since i dont feel a huge draw to being a woman atm>it’s pretty common to just have dysphoria over being perceived male, and feel nothing at the idea of being perceived female. it usually changes as your transition progresses.i didnt know this, so most trans women feel like me? will i feel gender euphoria or wtvr eventually?>the idea that transition was what i wantedyeah idk i just feel like i wanna escape being a guy and being a passing trans woman seems like the ideal way to do that
>>42045541oofit was just visible at first but now the tranny radar is on fire
>>42045541well at least you went from 1680s to 1980sbut don't you just have a pair of leggings and some tennis shoes?or a skirt that doesn't literally go down to your ankles?why do greek girls dress even weirder than eastern european girls haha
>>42045742if you are dysphoric, you will regret NOT transitioning because dysphoria doesnt go away, it only gets worse. i didnt have much euohoria initially either, and even if you do get it its temporary because eventually thibga that uses to give you euphoria become normal. if you have dysphoria you should make an attempt at transitioning
>>42045815yeah happens when someone is doing nothing to pass>>42045818>but don't you just have a pair of leggings and some tennis shoes?i have too much of a bulge lol>or a skirt that doesn't literally go down to your ankles?kinda silly but i enjoy being modest idk why>why do greek girls dress even weirder than eastern european girls hahai didnt know this was a greek thing lol. most greek girls just wear sundresses or jeans and a tank top
>>42045836that makes sense yeah, i dont really see any other way to cure my dysphoria tbhon. like if i kept repping im just gonna devolpe ocd/schizophrenia like the rest of my family or kms
>>42045742no one can give you the answer. but i will tell you that you seriously sound like a tranny. i literally had pretty much the exact same thoughts as you. i just hated being a man. nobody takes estrogen for 5 years and one day wakes up and is like “FUUUCK I HATE THIS AND REGRET EVERYTHING”, most regret and detranstion comes from being treated like shit because you are visibly trans. which you won’t have to worry about, because you have a good starting point. another question you should think about is if you want to age like a man or a woman. can you see yourself as a 30 year old man or 30 year old woman?
>>42045858How's it like in Greece? Still hating on the Turkish? (Don't worry, I don't like them too)
>>42045883>you seriously sound like a tranny.lol>most regret and detranstion comes from being treated like shit because you are visibly trans. which you won’t have to worry aboutthats good but now i just feel really bad for the trans girls that cant ):>can you see yourself as a 30 year old man or 30 year old woman?yeah no i literally am so scared of ending up looking my dad. i couldnt do that id just kms. youre right id much rather be a 30 year old woman
>>42045945Typical agp. Wholly unremarkable.
>>42045934i left greece a while ago, i grew up in a small village of 400 ppl. prob one of the worst places to come out as trans so glad im not there anymore.>Still hating on the Turkish?most ppl dont hate the avg turk but as a collective they are bad. especially their government. but tbf our government sucks too. we started supporting israel a couple years ago only because they would harass turkey. if i didnt leave id have be in forced military training service working with israelis lmao
>>42045966i dont get the agp thing, it seems to be thrown around just as an insult or smth. like what exactly in my behavior shows that i am turned on by being a woman? i feel like ive made it very clear my transition stems from my dysphoria
>>42045979Yeah, I don't really like that region of europe that much tbdesu (Turkey isn't europe), it's a shame really since I'm scottish but I found the more east and south you go the more the people genuinely start to suck, it sucks since I liked a lot of eastern europeans mainly from poland and lithuania due to homm3 being somewhat popular there, I wouldn't stand romania though
>>42046015Dysphoria is frustration at not seeing your partnering target (yourself) as female. You have an erotic target location error. That's all AGP is.
>>42046080then why have i felt like this since i was a child? and also i feel the least dysphoric while having sex even when its with a cis woman and im topping. i get all my dysphoria from social perception
>>42046065yeah i dont like how culturally conservative they are. yk its kinda funny im half scotish and ppl in greece used to make a point of it to make me feel like a foreigner. i still love my culture and history tho. i dont think any greek dislikes their culture
okay so it seems like im just a trans woman. welp glad to figure that out
>>42046117Platonic "puppy love" crush on yourself as the opposite sex
>>42046233what? i dont understand this? r u saying i had a platonic crush of myself being a girl growing up? thats like insane i dont even know how to respond to that. also wtf is "puppy love"
>>42046264Same way heterosexual boys can develop platonic crushes on girls before puberty.
>>42046286isnt that impying that im a narcissist? i never once remembered being into myself lmao. as a child my dysphoria was mostly just not being able to be the same as my friends (who were all girls) and that i was treated differently cus of that. also sports, boys were so aggressive with sports and i was expected to act like that and it made super uncomfy
>>42046136Could I ask which parent is Scottish and which town? I'll probably know the place
>>42046325Yep, just more AGP. Narcissism is common in AGPs.You think kids who develop platonic crushes see it as being into the other kid? They just see it was wanting to spend more and more time with them, same way as you wanted to spend more and more time as a fantasy girl version of yourself."Oh no sports scary boys aggressive I refuse to try to act like a boy I gotta be girly instead" is classic behavioral AGP.
>>42046338its my dad and sorry we arent like scotish scotish im like 3rd gen but my last name is common apparently in wigtownshire. idk shit abt scotland tho
>>42046355>They just see it was wanting to spend more and more time with them, same way as you wanted to spend more and more time as a fantasy girl version of yourself.i wanted to be w my FRIENDS ):< but being a boy made it WEIRD >Narcissism is common in AGPs.ok but u gotta prove the agp part first lols>"Oh no sports scary boys aggressive I refuse to try to act like a boy I gotta be girly instead" is classic behavioral AGP.oh so would i be trutrans if i liked sports lmao?
honestly you seem like a sweet girl from a small townwhether you transition or not, you should definitely leave this board and even this website, it's no place for girls early in transitionfind somewhere without all the bullshit, cutie
>>42046402AGP is trutrans. I don't know why y'all get so hot and bothered about it. AGPs are the ones who talk about having an inner female gender identity. The rest of us are just intersex weirdos who wanted to make it as men but failed because of our physiology.
>>42046455idk agp grosses me out. im not some sex freak whos into being a woman. i just want to be me. having sex has nothing to do with it why does all trans stuff on this board have to circle back to sex
>>42046367>Third gen yet says half scottishI don't want to sound bad but please, this is like some american saying they're scottish or something, I figured that with the maths I was given it was a parent was from there but anyways, I would say transition since I am too, but I'm definitely bias with my own experience
>>42046485AGP is about sexual orientation, not sex. You can be celibate your whole life and still be AGP. AGP is male autoheterosexuality.
>>42044999>i feel an immense amount of dysphoria about people perceiving me as a guythat's not what dysphoria is, so no, transition is not right for you, congrats!!!
>>42046494>this is like some american saying they're scottish or somethingi never tell ppl im scotish usually and i know that im neither culturally or nationally scotish but i am ethnically so itd be a lie to say im not. i usually just say im greek cus anyways i got more features from that side and actually am culturally and nationally greek.
>>42046512what is then?
>>42046553Dysphoria is hating having a physically normal and healthy body for your birth sex.
>>42046553I'm not gonna say cuz that would be helping pretenders
>>42046576yeah i guess i dont dislike my body. i dislike that it can signal to people im a guy but i dont intrinsically hate it. i do tho fear twinkdeath. i dont want to look more masculine then i already do>>42046578okay so what im feeling then. if its not dysphoria then why do i hate being seen as a guy
>>42046590idk probably attention seeking like you're doing with this whole thread
>>42046604my dislike of being seen as a man is cus i want attention?? i literally want to just be stealth. i want to have every default to me being she/her and never tell them im trans so that ill never have to hear he/him again
>>42046628everyone*
>>42046420>honestly you seem like a sweet girl from a small townthanks but im kinda a dick>it's no place for girls early in transitionfind somewhere without all the bullshit,yeah this place isnt much help
>>42046511"Autogynephilia is a term for a male's sexual arousal from the thought or image of himself as a female"is there some other definition im not aware of?
>>42045330you never really gave me a proper response
>>42046947i mean its not like you were talking in good faith anyways, itd be nice tho if u came up w valid points other than "grumpy"
>>42046604tbf attention seeking is pretty fembrained
>>42045119>>42045355>>42045433>>42045541why not? you will pass
>>42048889yeah prob but it had more to do w how i felt
>>42045082this is kinda funny ngl
