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stop doing this
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>>42046374
Why? Isn't it accurate?
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>>42046381
it isn’t
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>>42046374
>biological man
lmfao
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>>42046374
"Biological man" lol, very scientific
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>>42046398
I dont think this tweet proves anything one way or the other.
Why isn't OP's statement accurate? Thanks
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>>42046417
trans women are biological women
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>>42046471
I dont think that's true.
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>>42046374
You're not my boss
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>>42046381
it would be more accurate to say "biological males"; the wording is deliberately delegitimizing and stigmatic
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>>42046398
this is cope
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>>42046924
I dont understand why that would be more accurate.
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>>42046924
This is NOT more accurate.
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>>42046398
Do you have a source for this 60% claim that isn't "the lumpen maoist" in youtube comments
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>>42047032
The wording is specifically to be discriminatory to trannies while also being inaccurate (medical transition kinda stops making us "biologically male" in any medically or socially useful way)
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>>42047047
Genetic influence on gender identity is probabilistic and indirect, not deterministic, and no genetic test can identify someone as transgender or intersex.
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>>42046967
"men" refers to gender while "make" refers to sex
trans women are not men who are women they are males (most of the time) who are women
idrc abt the biological technicalities bc at that point why even refer to the sex of anyone ever
this definition works for normies and it works for me
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>>42046381
i think it’s inaccurate because i am significantly, biologically distinct from 99% of males/men
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>>42047144
If that were true, biological woken could be trans women, and biological men could be trans men.
But I dont think you believe that to be true.
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this is where the whole gender identity shtick got us. now they "respect" our right to identify as women, but still think of you as a man. we gotta start killing people who use ASAB terminology man
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>>42047388
explain how you got this because i'm not following
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>>42047822
Sure.
If "men" refers to gender, and "male" refers to sex, that would mean that in theory a biological man could claim to be a trans man, right?

I think the only criteria here excluding him from this gender is his sex, which means his sex and gender are the same thing, as his sex is dictating what his gender can/cannot be in this scenario.
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>>42047888
a male man is cisgender anon to be transgender you need to transition to or from something. a man can't transition to man because he's already that. you can claim whatever you want, i guess, yeah, but words do still mean things
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>>42047937
Okay. How about a man transitions to a woman, then transitions to a man again.

Regardless, my point is, can a man be a trans man? Or can a trans woman be a trans woman? If not, why not?
If the answer is "because of their sex", then that means sex dictates gender, if I understand the issue correctly.
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>>42047957
*or can a woman be a trans woman
Excuse me, I fucked up.
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>>42046398
Well if @lumpenmaoist says so..
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>>42047388
o neat a bot
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>>42047957
sex isn't dictating gender, here, because "trans woman" (unless you're talking to whatever fake-woke dummies created those drop-down gender-selection things in stuff like my college self-ID page or whatever) isn't it's own gender; "woman" is the gender, but "trans[gender]" describes the condition of that gender. a trans woman is a woman who is a woman because of her transition.
i can never be a cisgender woman because i am male and my sex at birth was correctly assigned. i said that most trans women are male because intersex people exist and they complicate things (eg a "biological female" assigned male at birth then transitions from male to female later in life) but that would still be a man (or probably boy, if she goes through female pubery)-to-woman transition. she may not technically be, like, biologically transgender, though, since she was always going to grow up that way.
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>>42047957
oh and about MtFtMs (sorry i forgot): that's just a detransition. returning to cisgenderism from being transgender.
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>>42048124
>>42048152
So you are saying that a man cannot be a trans man, because of their sex.
That means gender = sex, in your words.
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>>42046374
transgender term meant for people with gender dysphoria. all being spectrum in this world and you close minded baiting loser bigots like you pretend to not know exactly what you doing.
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>>42048244
A man can be a trans man because trans men are men. You're playing retarded word games because you're an amoeba.
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>>42048256
So a biological man/male can be a trans man? Just to confirm.
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>>42046398
The average tranny argument is just "yeah Blanchardism is bad because his data and methodology were unreliable. Anyway, here are some completely baseless statements I've collected from social media, and if you disagree with them, you're a meany."
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>>42048277
see >>42047937
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>>42048277
I have weird news for you about the existence of self-professed AMAB transmascs and AFAB transfemmes. Not really a gotcha when you can just tumblr your way into it working somehow.
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You guys are clowns and this is a clownish discussion over shit you made up.
Mtf trannies are men.
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>>42048404
So a biological man/male can be a trans man? Just to confirm what you said.
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>>42048494
this is a very silly thing to say in light of my real life
>>42048549
can you confirm for me first whether you are literate before i continue to waste my time
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>>42048565
I don't know if why you're so scared of answering my question.
I just want you to confirm what you said. It shouldn't be this challenging for you.
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I saw two psychologists on the NHS and both of them called me by this horrible term
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>>42048584
please reread the post wherein i did answer your question. i will make it easy:
>a man can't transition to man because he's already that.
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>>42048698
So you believe your gender is dictated by your biological sex.
Thanks for confirming this fact one final time.
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>>42048716
you are illiterate
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>>42048750
You literally said
>a man can't transition to man because he's already that.
Following your own logic, that means you believe that gender is dictated by sex.

I dont know why your own words are upsetting you so much.
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>>42048885
i don't know why you think i'm at all upset
insisting that you do not know what i'm saying, though, after i have provided a detailed explanation does not inspire confidence that you are worth speaking to at all, unfortunately
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>>42048937
Im saying g you are upset because you keep crying
>"y-y-you're illiterate!"
At me instead of explaining why you typed that.

I have not misread a single thing you wrote. You wrote, and I quote
>a man can't transition to man because he's already that
Which means you believe sex is dictated by gender. This is an example of you saying exactly that.

If you think this is incorrect, this is your chance to explain yourself, instead of crying.
Go ahead.
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>>42048986
reread: >>42048124
a man might be either male or female. a male man (cisgender) cannot transition to a man (making him a trans man) because there is nothing to transition to or from. he is simply cisgender. a male man.
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>>42049012
That means what I said was correct.
Thanks for confirming that you believe sex dictates gender for the final time.
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>>42049027
you are beyond help :(
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>>42049058
You literally said the sex of the person dictates their gender.
You are illiterate, at best.
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>>42046471
Play the game of averages.
Average number of cis women that were born with the capacity to one day (ideally post 20 years old) become pregnant.
Vs
Average number of trans women that were born with the capacity to one day (ideally post 20 years old) become pregnant.
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>>42049102
Cis women with xxy are now men, ok retard
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>>42047151
XY
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>>42047144
But, "man" is just a quicker way of saying adult male human. While merely saying "male" could mean a child or an adult, and isn't even specific to human.
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>>42046374
>tell people who hate trannies we hate this
okay they'll do it more
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>>42046374
stop tolerating faith
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>>42050810
Yeah the British establishment can be reasoned with



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