How do I know for sure if I am *just* a slightly unusual effeminate gay man with a taste for girly behavior and whimsy, or a straight woman trapped in a female body who needs to take estrogen to be set free?
>do you want a female body and/or vaginais a pretty good place to start. as others have said, "gender dysphoria" is mostly a misnomer for "sex dysphoria"
also nice fucking picrel btw ugh need
>>42052938Do you want to be a dude or a chick when you're 40Thats pretty much the choice you're making at the end of the day
>>42052945I kinda would like to be treated how women are but I would find a female body alienating but I don't really love being hairy either but it doesn't like make me THAT upset.
>>42052977if you don't want a female body you probably aren't gender dysphoric. you are allowed to remove your hair, though, temporarily or permanently, and you are also allowed to be yourself, whatever that means. you're allowed to take hrt, even; it is your life. though it doesn't sound like you would enjoy that. but you probably will never be "treated how women are" unless you seriously appear to be female, unfortunately.also think about this >>42052972
>>42053036what if people are willing to treat you female even if you aren't convincingly female, it's just clear you are making an effort beyond how you would naturally look?
>>42052938Do you want to have a vagina? If no, you are not trans
>>42053037You will never be treated like a female unless you stealth. Pitypassing is not the same
>>42053051no, but I feel like I kinda act a bit more like a woman than most men and whatever you call a neo vagina isn't really a vagina and wouldn't be satisfying anyways its just the current bits rearranged it doesn't follow the meticulous human genetic design for a vagina internally or externally
>>42053055>I feel like I kinda act a bit more like a woman than most menYour gender does not dictate how you should act. You have internalized homophobia, and you are not trans.
>>42053079>You have internalized homophobiaI like being gay, but I feel like other people don't really accept me having any sort of femininity.
>>42053037i don't know, honestly...sorry :( i would think that this >>42053054 anon is probably correct, in most cases, but i have broken stealth plenty of times and it seems like people treat me the same before and after. i say they are probably correct though because i am likely too socially inept to even notice whatever nuanced differences there might be in the way i am treated by those who know vs those who do not>>42053055also there is no one way that women act. culturally there are ways women are expected to behave, but people are just people anon. you can be yourself without being a woman. but again everything is up to you and you deserve the freedom to determine your own future
>>42053099>also there is no one way that women actI didn't enjoy rough play at all as a little boy and it felt like a lot of male activities were physical games and competitions and I had no interest in that.
>>42052938>How do I know for sure if I am *just* a slightly unusual effeminate gay man with a taste for girly behavior and whims...You're a straight woman trapped in a male body who needs to take estrogen to be set free. Dont become an srsoid though
>>42053103anon that's just your personality. tomboys are the opposite of this and they definitely exist, too. like i said, culturally, boys and girls are taught or encouraged to behave certain ways and then grow up to be men and women who behave derivitavely, but only very little of that is innate. and that innate stuff is mostly hormone-driven. you are just you and that's okay. being feminine does not make you dysphoric or transgender; that would be a real desire to BE female. or more loosely, in the latter case, be a woman. do you want either of those things, really, deep down? if the answer is "yes", then maybe you should transition. and like i said you can take hormones either way; it's your life. but it sounds to me like you're just gay and sort of carried away by the idea that there might be something wrong with the way you are, as a man.
>>42053125well but im not really allowed to socialize with females im still seen as a predator for being male even though im gay the whole system is stupid and I just don't want to participate in it because its unfair and biased against my kind
>>42053145stop trying to bait whatever answer you're looking for
>>42053145biases are stupid, yes. good people will love you no matter what you are, if you yourself are good. there are very few men i've men whom i've gotten weird or predatory vibes from. the internet amplifies certain perspectives and encourages us to believe divisive things (eg that all women view all men as predators) which aren't really true in the real world. if you want to be friends with women you can. you don't want to hang out with biased people, anyways.>>42053173i've been seeing this lately, since the new anti-bait psa thread was posted, actually. makes me wonder if chuds are just developing more covert and insidious ways to rope posters here into time-wasting arguments lol. though i don't necessarily think that's what this is....or i hope not, anyhow.
>>42053217>men i've menmen i've met* lol
>>42053217I don't believe in good people
>>42053232well it seems i have egg on my face after allfair play, i suppose
>>42052972personally I'll kill myself before that so it's not a concern
>>42053145>really allowed to socialize with females im still seen as a predatorThat would not change in the current political climate, you would actually feel worse
>>42053408under what political climate would that change?
>>42053583Its not gonna change
>>42053118She was rude to me on Grindr one time
>>42052938Well do you want the effects of estrogen or not? The metaphysics are bullshit.