Cis women dress like this for corporate events, tell me what your excuse is now
>>42061235I miss having nipple piercings but they got infected
>>42061256Owww that sounds painful
>>42061235I'm a kneehon
>>42061276Just get knee surgery you'll soon pass
>>42061293Unfortunately I am not filthy mega rich and only rich by tranny standards (aka middle class)
>>42061235yikes that shoulder hip ratio is ropefuelthose arms are rough too
>>42061325Ok this is just brain worms
>>42061306I want height reduction surgery its so much money, im 6'1
>>42061398pretty manly feet too.the larger issue is her figure is very top heavy
>>42061438Anon, no joke, have you got any help around you?
>>42061235the way her upper body's bigger than mine
>>42061472fat on the hands make them look masculineflattness on the front hairs make her skull look biggerthe hairtie is not around the the smallest part of her wrist so in turn makes her hands look largerthe dress sits plain awkwardly and does not imphasize the hips (instead the thighs)her right arm is also held to her body giving a more boxy visual shapetrying to pass will poison your brain. i am merely pragmatic
>>42061528Ok this is worse than anything ive seen in mumsnet
>>42061905this is what goes through the average girl (cis or not)'s head when shes trying on clothes/ making outfits/ getting ready
>>42061930I have schizophrenia and it doesnt go through my head
>>42061235shoulders
>>42061986you could be hotter if it did
>>42061235based slut (if she lets me disappoint her in bed)
>>42061235i want to sniff her feet desu
>>42061235Women are whores dude, is this news to you? Corporate events? Its jewish daycare
>>42061235I'm not an attractive cistacy I'm an ugly twinkhon becky
>>42061438Its taken from top angle you stupid fuck, it enlarges the top>>42061930Nope, only in misogynistic moid head
>>42061306How much is rich by tranny standards? Like 10k annually?
>>42064818there is no "rich" by tranny standardsyou're either a passoid making just enough to pay all your bills every month renting room from a hispanic who steals your panties from the laundry, or you're a balding gigahon with a walk-in closet just for your breastforms and flies business class to make blacked videos in a hotel in Atlanta
>>42064818$70k/yrIt's sad knowing I'm often the one making the most money in a room full of trannies because it's really not that much.
>>42065080that's peanuts how do you even live by yourself on that
>>42065352Low cost of living area. It's substantially above the national median, and trannies tend to take in only 60% relative to the median.
>>420612351) fat2) male skeleton3) have bf
>>42065381pretty cucked to work at all and only >70kfake ur resume
>>42065438It's basically my first non-service job and this job market is ass. I'm not a passoid which really limits hireability.
>>42061235She’s asking if it’s appropriate, indicating that she thinks it might not be. Are you stupid or just baiting?
>>42065499Yes
>>42065482I'd say fuck the system shotot people or destroy infrastructure. I look like a man and never get hired.
>>42065516I don't really have a major work drive (and HRT killed most of what I had). I'd much prefer something like academia but unfortunately there's no money in that.
>>42065543the west is collapsing and falling and you are worried about these shitty jobs>should be training>should be organizing and gathering weapons to kill nons and blacks for the collapse that college degree will be good for toilet paper
>>42065585nta and you are a glowie but the collapse of the us and west in general is going to take a couple decades, just as empires arent built in a day they dont collapse in one eithertf kind of training and organizing can anyone be doing while homeless
>>42065714Also building communities and contacts is, uh, kind of important?
>>42065714>tf kind of training and organizing can anyone be doing while homelessblade training I guess. our country is just going to become browner and browner. our social credit system we have where saying the 'n word' is bad when it is merely a word. Canada is collapsing quicker and is further along.
>>42065738>saying the n word is badtell that to the adult white woman who made $1,000,000 for calling a black kid the n word
>>42065738>blade training I guesswonderful, we can starve to death while twirling a temu katana around on the corner of the street in preparation for smth 15 years from now>>42065736yeah i dunno, tranny employment in general is super fucked, employement is itself already bad, i dont have a future and i suspect a lotta other trannies dont either
>>42065754I did not sya it was bad you brown retard but nevermind shitskins aren't as smart as me>>42065764oh you were insinuating I am homeless You are a retard. I'd sulfuric acid attack you or another trnas person for how cringe you are.
>>42065778>oh you were insinuating I am homeless You are a retard. I'd sulfuric acid attack you or another trnas person for how cringe you are.you have a really hard time parsing conversation on the internetim not very surprised you seem giga retarded, also your autism is way too strong so im glad you will never procreate
>>42065764I'm doing my best to stay in the glass closet (which has done its own kind of damage, I probably should have come out earlier) but I'm very clearly not "male" in the traditional sense. I want a more secure job rather than contractor work.
>>42065798>says the giga retard himself obviously projecting onto othersgiga retard detected really awkward think you're smart because you went to the indocrination centre
>>42065800honestly even having contractor work rn puts you above an obscene portion of the populationi understand what youre saying tho, but shit is gonna get so bad when the ai bubble pops and the economy implodes>>42065833you dont even understand what im saying, i dunno maybe learn how to read first or smth
>>42065833Yeah they probably went to school while you weren't even allowed on the short bus.
>>42065847Luckily my company is fairly cautious of AI. Like I got my job in part because I said I wasn't a fan of using AI because it's very good at seeming reliable when it's mostly smoke and mirrors, and that relying on it would hinder my personal growth.
>>42065871waow employers that arent desperately trying to make gen ai a part of their business modelamazin
>>42065880I mean there's still some AI push but they're not gleefully rushing to overincorporate it. Part of this is for security reasons ofc.
>>42065499Stupid moid, she isnt asking for an honest appraisal, you autistic twat, she is humble bragging and asking as an excuse to show off her dressLike when a clearly pretty sends a selfie and asks if she is ugly. You dumb moid
>>42065714Honestly I can see civilisation ending one of two ways:1) AI and an increasingly corporate world slowly poisons everyone's brains until we're functionally retarded and need companies to feed us our thoughts.2) AI generated images and comments drive half the population utterly off the wall batshit crazy, and they elect gigahitler out of sheer hatred of the shitty Midjourney depictions of groups they don't like.I just hope that they'll leave us alone. Maybe there are still some places on the web too small or unprofitable for companies and AIs to touch. We can have our own little communities while everyone else kills each other.
>>42065900I don't get what the point of all this AI even is. What are they going to do when no one has any money or computers or anything to give them for their shitty chatbots? Are they just going to pass VC investor money around in a circle while we all starve? Is the AI bubble ever going to burst and return to a reasonable, but irritating, tool for officer workers?
>>42066070>What are they going to do when no one has any moneyLol you still havent worked this all out. Read Patchwork
>>42066209Which one? I'm only seeing a bunch of children's books and books on quilting. To be fair taking up quilting might be good for my health.
>>42066070the point of ai is to replace labor, it needs to be understood the bourgeoisie are not human and their end goal is closer to something out of the matt damon elysium film than it is anything you hear western governments tell you about some "liberal democracy" utopic depiction of a more egalitarian future as imagined by neoliberalsif labor is automated they dont actually need to worry about being eaten by proles anymorethe issue is that llms are glorified chatbots and have no functional conciousness, actual literal stochastic parrots that are simply not capable of fundamentally replacing human labor, and no amount of money or investment into llms is going to change that, it really doesnt matter how much computational power in the form of infinite datacenters are thrown at it, they just wont achieve what their end goal is, the market is simply irrational and is going to implode; the question is only when and what happens as a result
>>42066278Basically the concept of money will be eliminated for us, the serfs. Instead we will work for company scrip. The super rich will continue to live in luxury and exchange money amongst themsleves. So imagine a cut off point, where you fall below a line and you become enslaved.It will happen, people are too stupid and hateful to understand the negative implications. I say it *will* happen, it already is. How many people complain they work and sleep and can never seem to get ahead. I've read the government reports on this, its linked to the 996https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2008/11/patchwork-positive-vision-part-1/
>>42066317 >closer to something out of the matt damon elysium film than it is anything you hear western governments tell you about some "liberal democracy"This is the fundamental crux. Fundamental. If you want a vision of the future, watch that film. The abolishment of workers rights. Automated systems that are kafkaesque. A ruling elite permanently detached from the serfs they rule over. Failing healthcare for the masses, whilst the rich have their lifespans artificially expanded.A very depressing movie and i see no way it can be avoided. It would require us all to see one another as human and we do not, we fight over nonsense whilst the system enslaves us. I wish humanity wasnt so hateful and stupid
>>42061235cover up those fucking twisted toes. it'd her eat out from the back though; thanks for the pic of the hot slut!
>>42066388you act like there has ever been a system capable of subjugating humanity so effectively with so little actual human input. it's really quite unprecedented
>>42066388>A very depressing movie and i see no way it can be avoided.i know we prob dont see to eye to eye on this but i think there isi think the chinese model has been extraordinarily successful, in 40 years theyve moved from starving peasant farmers to the beginning of eclipsing the westi think the issue is more that the west will NEVER allow itself to actually envision a future that is beneficial to the whole of mankind and not just those that pull the stringsmaybe this is sort of blackpilled but i think the west NEEDS to collapse, like entirely, i have no idea if the chinese can pull off a better future but i know almost beyond a doubt the west cannotat this stage i honestly think its worth turning the future over to a fundamentally different group of people with a different vision as a hail mary
>>42066317That's what I'm thinking. The philosophy of tech, in the last 20 years, has shifted from "We're going to use this to make the world a better place" to "This is going to utterly fuck everything up, but someone is going to do it so I'm going to do it as well." It's just tech for the sake of tech, not to solve any kind of problem.They genuinely do not care about anyone except themselves. They want to see themselves as underdog heroes in a world where they're very obviously despicably evil, so the only solution is to see us as some sort of insignificant insect.I really just wish we could lock all the powerful men in a room with a copy of Cookie Clicker. Then they can make as much number go up as they want, and delude themselves into thinking they rule the world, while the rest of us get on with our lives.
>>42066332But how would we even work? AI is going to entirely replace us, according to them. Anyone who thinks they'll let us "use it as a tool" is delusional. These men won't be happy until everyone except them has starved to death.
>>42066412There will be human input. Robots cant repair broken plumbing etc.But the concept of exchanging labour for currency will be abolished. Elon Musk has already built a company town, work in exchange for company products.
>>42066544nta but the answer would be menial labor that isnt easily automatedwork where a human prole life (worthless in the world of elysium) is fundamentally far less valuable than a machine that could be damaged and need replacementyou would not be working in an office, you would be extracting minerals from the earth or fixing machines or keeping other proles in line
>>42066455Once the West collapses it will not recover for a thousand years. The West collapsed before, in 470AD and it wasnt until 1400 years later that concepts like medicine and human rights were explored in any meaningful way.Collapse may be inevitable, but its foolish to assune anything will rise to take its place other than a subsistence economy
>>42066412The problem is that humanity wants to subjugate itself. They're flooding the net with AI-generated slop and bots and worthless corporate bullshit, and normies are happily lapping it up. We'll keep watching AI-generated videos of frappuccinos and cats cutting giant vegetables until we can't think of anything else. It feels like they're going to turn the web into some kind of baby sensory video, instead of a place where people can exchange and create and communicate.
>>42066544They're lying. They will still need human labour to do dirty, boring work. But you wont exchange labour for currency. That arrangment is now dead.The new deal will be indebted servitude, think the workhorse from Victorian England, but on a larger scale
>>42066579i dont think the west will accomplish any meaningful advance towards a better future from this point outward, again maybe blackpilled but i think a better future would have be given to us from someon else that can actually make that happen
>>42066579Lol this idiot believes in the myth of the Dark Ages
>>42066619I do. It isnt a mythThe Roman's understood not to drink from stagnant water. They didnt know abour microscopic lifeforms, but they knew it would make people ill. So they built the aqueducts. Do you have any idea how complex these structures were? How they filtered the water? Transported from the mountains of Italy to Rome?The average roman citizen had access to more drinkable water than the average cirizen right now in the West. They understood not to drink from standing water.1000 years after Rome fell, what did people drink from? Wells.
>>42066558we're pretty close to self-repairing robots. and in what sense is the individual company town different from the global company town wage-slave model in which we are currently living?>>42066604exactly. we like the easy path. and now we've made a system that practically governs for us. of course we want to keep giving up responsibility and agency. this really is the system people are least likely to "wake up" under
>>42066658The medieval era saw technological advancements the Romans could only dream of. Most notably, in the fields of metallurgy and chemistry, which the classic civilisations had been totally shit at. That's why we were able to start the Industrial Revolution and they weren't.
>>42066658medieval people understood not to drink stagnant water you moron. that's why they brewed beer and cider, and why "water-drinker" was an insult in england for hundreds of years. the dark ages are a renaissance myth
>>42066679>in what sense is the individual company town different from the global company town wage-slave model in which we are currently living?Because i have freedom to choose. If Samsung make a terrible product, i will choose another company. If i dislike my current location, i can move. If my boss is bullying me i can change industry.Under their new plans, all this will become impossible.Now you're argument will be "but that only works in concept, i cant just move i havent got the money, i cant just leave my job the job market is fucked"Yeah, no shit, that was original point that they are already in the process of doing this, so the leap between theoretical choice and no empirical choice is barely noticable. Thats why the plan is insidious, and incremental.
>>42066703>That's why we were able to start the Industrial Revolution and they weren't.Omfg you're not listening. The industrial revolution started around the 1700s. Thats liteally 1300 years after Rome fell. THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL POINT that it took millennia for progress to resume. Medical advancement was prevented due to the supremacy of the church
>>42066679>we're pretty close to self-repairing robotsi dont know where youre getting this from, we arent even remotely close to this on a technological levelwe dont even have a suitable power source yet in terms of power density that would enable serious human like automation that is commercially viable in any manner
>>42066710>that's why they brewed beer and ciderThis is literal regression from aqueducts
>>42066718but you still lack the freedom to demand the full fruits of your labor. as the "allowance" was the slave-master's manifested guilty conscience, the admission that the slave was in fact due the product of his labor, so the "wage" is the manifestation of the employer's knowledge that in reality he is nothing but a thief
>>42066760I answered your question
>>42066754we don't need "human-like automation" to make machines that are capable of making rudimentary repairs on themselves. AI could do this. even so, the automation isn't what's got out of our control, and what will subjugate us, but rather currency itself, as a sentient force>>42066759moving the goal posts. and, no, not a regression. a different technology. the greeks always mixed wine into their water, and this worked as well
>>42066796Regression. Clean drinking water from aqueducts is superior to brewing beer.I moved no goalposts. Running water was available in Rome, it was not available in medieval Europe.
>>42066745Yeah, after several hundred years of other advancements that made it possible. The Romans were nowhere near advanced enough for an Industrial Revolution. We were only able to make a steam engine because of 500 years of cannon-making tradition telling us how to make pressurised iron vessels.Also didn’t the romans all die of lead poisoning?
>>42065352I live on 30 and own a house
>>42066796>AI could do thisdefine ai here, llms, diffusion, ml? what do you mean exactly, because i seriously disagree with this, and i mean on a literal technical level we lack the literal technological capability to automate away most menial labor, your argument is super reminiscent of the "self driving cars will replace trucking" thing that tech bros have been trying to push for 15 years now and are still not even remotely close to solving because theres just way too many variables in the real worldlike yet again, we simply have NO viable power source for automation capable of serious menial labor unless the labor itself can be constrained in a way that affords more rudimentary automation (an amazon warehouse, for example)i kind of get the feeling you dont actually have any first hand familiarity with menial labor, no offense
>>42066825Technological advancements in warfare have always been a constant throughout human history. Thats the only area of human life that has never regressed. From the Bronze Age to the nuclear age, killing humans has always been a priority.The fact remains kmowledge of human rights, medicine and a fairer political system were lost for over a millenia. When/if the West falls again, it will also take a similarly time to regain progress
>>42066855Rights are a social construct, merely privileges without responsibilities attached. They can only “exist” through force to enforce them and start not universal
>>42066897A social construct can be real and have real world implications. Law is a social construct, it carries real world consequences. What point are you trying to make?
>>42066850ig my original point was more that this system requires little actual human input in terms of what we would literally call "subjugation." the function of capital causes us to cede our autonomy in the name of our individual self-interests. i was more trying to make the point to the other nona that this system is the hardest to materially fight because it hijacks individual self-interest to its own ends so effectively. there is no king or lord or even individual plutocrat to fight back against. "if you want someone to blame, throw a rock," to quote the movie "cube." but you're right about the tech and you caught me shysting when i actually have next to no knowledge. i humbly apologize and beg clemency
>>42067042>beg clemencygrantedi appreciate your thoughts on the matter though and i dont disagree with the notion that there really isnt any exact person pulling the levers behind the curtain a la wizard of oz and more that were in a self sustaining capitalist hellscape at this pointi just focus the ai claim specifically because i seriously dont think the ambitions regarding llms are going to pan out as is hoped by those funneling everything into it, whatever the outcome may be in reality
>>42067113i don't think our rulers would even want their stated ambitions to materialize. you can't fire an unproductive AI to make an example to the others, for instance
>>42067167i mean i think in reality theyve been sold a very seriously unrealistic expectation of what it can (or rather will supposedly be able to) actually perform and legitimately think theyre breaching the point of automating labor away entirely, they wouldnt try to force this as much as they are otherwise, im genuinely curious to see what happens if anything to people like altman and huang who have played such a pivotal role as premier conmen of the 21st century, when the lies truly unravel that is
>>42067167But you can make an AI do whatever you want. It has no needs or wants. It does the job, shittily and inefficiently, but without questioning you or demanding rights. This is a businessman's wet dream.What the oligarchs will do once they run out of things to own and control and dominate is anyone's guess. Even they aren't immune to getting bored of their perfect lives.
>>42067236they'll be tarred and feathered like the cryogenics people, hopefully
>>42067236I have a lot of things I hope will happen to Altman. I don't think I can vocalise them. Best we can hope for is an Elizabeth Holmes type situation, where he's disgraced and forced to live a regular life without any Forbes attention or VC funding. For him, this is a fate worse than death.>>42066855But there were plenty of other advances that made it possible. For example, we were better at making complex machines. So we understood how to utilise torque and mechanical advantage in a way the Romans never could. Even if they had the metallurgy necessary for a steam engine they could never have scaled it.Plus, we had calculus. The Romans didn't have calculus.
>>42066679>we like the easy pathBut what are we going to do about it? Will people ever realise why they feel so unsatisfied, and how wrong it is to have their entire lives exposed and censored and manipulated for their overlords' needs?I wouldn't mind it so much if it didn't bleed into every space I use. I like to take the hard way because it makes things exciting, and gives me a better perspective, and gives me more control over my life than the sanitised corporate way. But every space dedicated to that is steadily being taken over by rich silicon valley morons who think they're the saviours of the human race.
>>42068817>we had calculusWow im talking to a peasant from the 14th century
>>42069615wow i'm talking to a slave from ancient rome
>>42070670At no point did i refer to the Romans as "we". I suspect you are very sleepy and just want an argument. Nap time for you
