Trying to deduce if the she/they I met in a videogame is cis woman enby, trans woman enby, cis man enby, or trans man enby and I'm at a loss. She has the cards close-to-the-chest demure muffled behavior of every nerdy cis woman and trans man I've ever talked to (someone made a thread about this behavior before and its so difficult to describe it but I instantly knew exactly what OP was talking about) yet at the same time says stuff that just feels so millennial male. Sorry if a trans man reads this and feels bad about it, you can in retaliation tell me I behave like a man and I'd understand. I think I've ruled out cis man enby because someone amab and confident enough to use she/they pronouns while not taking hrt wouldn't be this apologetic and passive. So I think she is either the she/they ftm on testosterone lesbian type, or a cis/trans woman that doesn't feel entirely like a woman but mostly is.
>>42063726I wanna look like left
>>42063726just listen to the voice>ftm = frog loli>cis woman = normal>trans woman = autistic nerd doing a girlvoice
>>42063726Why would a male identifying person use she pronouns?
>>42063853I haven't gotten her into a voice chat yet and there is novelty in trying to figure it out through text before I hear her speak >>42063892I don't mean an actual ftm I just mean someone who takes hrt, was dysphoric but still kind of feels like a woman and identifies with womanhood and so she uses she/they pronouns while having used test. Not dissimilar from those hrt femboys that still identify with maleness and getting called a he. For cis man enby I just mean someone who physically and materially exists as a normal guy in day to day life, doesn't want to take hrt but insists they have a female identity online because of a pfp and pronoun tags.
>>42063945Literally what part of this has anything to do with male enbies at all?
>>42064090Both people I described would have male testosterone levels
>>42064116What's the point of trying to figure out what this person is if you just decide based on their hormone levels? Do you just look at people's blood tests and go "ah yes you are a male enby"
>>42064126I mean hormone levels = appearance. Basically I just want to know if the person on the other side of the screen looks like a man or a woman.
>>42064167Clearly it's not indicative of their appearance since you can't tell
>>42064230Reread the OP, "I met in a videogame". Basically we had been playing together for a few weeks and I just assumed it was a guy because 99% of the people in that game are. Then she asked if I wanted to talk outside of the game and I said sure okay. She has she/they in her discord bio and at first I assumed it was 100% either a trans woman or a cis guy with female pronouns on internet profiles. But then as time has gone on she has been showing that muffled gentle personality that made me start deducing.
>>42064436Why did you start to doubt them based on personality? When you first assumed they're a girl you should've had a hormone test to back you up
>>42063726have you considered asking them what gay ass archetype they consider themselves to fall under such as transbian or ftm or whatever thingy gives you a better picutre in your head of what they want you to have in there of themnot cuz u were thinking about them or anything but like jic u know
>>42063726I guess the problem w/ this is that it implies everyone is exactly the same but only differentiable by identification to those labels, which is never the case if posting here should tell u anything
>>42064467I mean she behaves like someone that was born with a vagina as I said but I do not know if she has cis female levels or has been taking test like an ftm, that wouldn't change anything for me though but she'd look pretty different. But if she were born male and not on estrogen I'd feel pretty offput >>42064484I know the thing I am thinking is pretty rude so I wouldn't say it to someone directly, only ponder about it anonymously
>>42064592>she behaves like someone that was born with a vaginaYou should unironically tell her that
