Being tranny is an endless humiliation ritual.How are you living as a trans? > If you're not a passoid, you will be constantly seen as a man by the regular population.> If you're a passoid, you will have to always live with a secret that you’re trans. And if they eventually come to know the truth, they will start to see you as a liar/traitor, and a man.No matter how many surgeries you get, if your voice or anything still clockable (which is most likely if you do not transition before 18), people will see you as a man. Liberals will pretend that you're a woman but will always be transphobic inside and just treat you as your gender, so they will feel that they're doing something good and progressive.It's a constant spiral when you programming yourself that you're something that almost no one else see you as."Oh, I have to quit social media, because people are so transphobic online". "Oh, I have to move to a liberal city because people here are so transphobic". Then you move to a liberal city and delete all social media and remove transphobic friends/family members from your life, and someone still will call you sir because of your voice or something else, even if you pass. The loop of self-delusion is endless. Takes so much strength and brain games. We are social creatures, and being rejected by society and making yourself believe that it's okay and avoiding it is not normal or healthy in any way. It's not going to be a game you can win.You spend 200-300k on all the surgeries to pass and still are seen as a man by the majority of the people, sometimes government and doctors.So what's the point of living life like that?
Who's spending 300k on surgeries to pass? The only surgery I needed was SRS which cost me a tenth of that.
people who treat you that way are pieces of shit. so there is no reason to concern yourself with their views. >what is the point of livingbuild a good life, surround yourself with people who love you for you and who you love as well, build your career, develop your hobbies, enjoy the beauty and richness of life on the earth instead of trying to win the approval of soulless, unthinking, uncaring monsters
>>42068306well I need ffs, srs, shoulders reduction, boobs augmentation at least. i transitioned after 20 and hormones didn't do a lot for me. i dont want to go to bad doctors. The cost of only FFS is 80k for me.
>>42068289Um, just pass bro. Idk what to tell you. It's more than just looks. Your voice, mannerisms, speech patterns, etc have to match as well. Some trannies will and some won't. If you weren't one of the girls before hrt, you wont be after all the hrt and surgeries in the world. Your soul doesn't pass and that's what people see you as
>>42068429I transitioned at 21 and I didn't need all those surgeries. Maybe you should've stayed a man?
>>42068429Brainworms>>42068525Honfidence
>>42068505you don't pass. the way you type, totally male
>>42068546>ella no sabe jajajajaja
>>42068525its easy to stay that, what do you even mean by staying a man? why u didnt you stay a man then?maybe because of dysphoria and inability to live as a man stops u from staying a man? god
>>42068562I did stay a man, until my boyfriend told me he wouldn't stay with me unless I transitioned.
>>42068585nice so when u break up u detrans?
>>42068560oh, well, good on ya, "bro." aside from the belief in souls. that is very fembrained
>>42068600Yeah prolly. Not sure what I'm gonna do about the SRS tho.
>>42068289> If you're a passoid, you will have to always live with a secret that you’re transAnd? I also live with the secret that my dad died when I was 3 and was thus a fatherless child in a time when this was rare and shameful (in addition to rightfully being seen as a bad thing).I also live with the secret that i was involuntarily committed to the psychward for several weeks (which by the standards of my country is a lot).It's also not too different from the secrets a lot of cissoids live with.>So what's the point of living life like that?I like living rather than mere surviving or roping.
>>42068780your whole way of being is predicated on the article of faith that you pass. doesn't that make you anxious? you only have to not pass to one person, and it all comes undone
>>42068780if you live with secrets, u will never feel or be free.
>>42068814Therefore no one is free because we all have secrets. The only reason some of us don't think we do is because we haven't thought hard enough about what it is we don't want getting out
>>42068811>doesn't that make you anxious?No, not really.>you only have to not pass to one person, and it all comes undoneNo, not really.Although it's been several years since I've had to pull the "boys make the best women" card, but I always have it ready when need be.I suppose it's because I don't have any other serious disorders. It's also why the psychiatrists took longer than usual to give the GD diagnosis. They couldn't believe it either that I didn't have other issues besides being wired wrong.As such, it was easier for me to simply build a life as a woman and... that's it. I don't feel the need to justify or lie to myself.Having a cute face and the correct height also makes anyone look ridiculous if they try too hard to insist that I was born XY.Outside of internet echo-chambers, normies really don't give af that much if you reasonably pass.
>>42068814In addition to what >>42068988 said, I'll also add that it's legit self-harm to stake your own sense of freedom on an impossible standard.It's a brainworm to think it's somehow wrong or rare or oppressing to have secrets. Everyone has secrets. Successful people find ways to work with that.I preferred to learn from successful people.Being a perpetual victim is a choice. And it's a very bad choice when all is said and done.
>>42069293when is your whole identity is your secret its a bit different from having regular secrets =)
>>42069360Honey, I live in Germany. Specifically east Germany.You have no idea how many people here have such secrets. They either hide they're russians, or hide from their nazi past, or their generic criminal past (all of the drug dealers of the 1990s now have manufactured past to reintegrate into the mainstream society), and so on.Comparatively speaking, my "secret" is mild lol.Yes, it is different. I don't hide a criminal past or collaboration with a genocidal regime (be it nazi, DDR or USSR).There are ex-tranny porn stars who now live stealthily around here.It helps to live in a privacy-oriented country.
>>42069426europe is more skeletons than soil, at this point
>>42068289trvke. i’m just hoping things will get better eventually, even if i know it probably won’t that hope is the only thing keeping me going sometimes. i’ll probably give it a good shot for like 10 years and if nothing i did worked to fix me then i’ll probably call it. it’s genuinely soul crushing to fail the gender coin flip AND role the astronomically low odds of being a tranny
>>42068505I shouldn't need to pass to be respected.
>>42069717Just go be a man? Bed her instead of trying to be her? Go do some physical exercise to get some endorphins going and feel better?
> just live your life be happy, surround urself with people whos are smart > meanwhile this happens constantly to us, and we're supposed to have no reaction to that and not feel like being trans is a humiliation ritual over and over again? this is a delusion
>>42069741tried that, didn’t work
>>42069741read what gender dysphoria is and its symptoms. its not possible to just live as a man and cope if you want not to shoot urself eventually
>>42069798I don't see what the problem is. I became a vag bro after getting SRS and it's fine.
>>42069839nta but you make getting srs out to be much easier than it really is
>>42069839totally mentally stable and normal
>>42069877My insurance approved it no questions asked.>>42069878What's the problem?
>>42069877Cheap SRS is easy to get but quality SRS is harder. No way in hell am I getting penile inversion over robot-assisted PPT.
>>42069910Penile inversion = possibility of touch sensation inside the vaginaPPT = no possibility of touch sensation inside the vaginaBut hey, if you want a numb vagina, then go for it
>>42069888What is the problem with removing your dick and then deciding to live as a guy again? no problems at all
>>42069888well good for you, mine won’t but i’m happy it’s something you were able to get easily
>>42069919I want some amount of depth please. There's been so much shrinkage that PPT is not gonna be viable.
>>42069942*Inversion won't be viable fmstl
>>42069931Exactly. As long as I take HRT to avoid health problems it's fine.>>42069942I assume you mean that shrinkage means PI is not gonna be viable. In which case... I think some surgeons offer a hybrid PI/PPT technique: PI for the near portion of the canal, PPT for the far portion.
>>42069963Interdasting. Know their names?
>>42069979Check the trans surgeries reddit wiki.
>>42068289> they will start to see you as a liar/traitor, and a manyou just ain't passing enough. if you act like a bitch, talk like a bitch and look like a bitch nothing will change in their approach or you just told the wrong person. take your schizo pills, faggot
>>42069963>hybrid PI/PPT techniqueStill need hair removal for this
>>42070508Cissoids are evil morons who will turn on you simply for "having deceived them" if you ever get unstealthed, like they believe they have the right to know you're a tranny from day 1.
>>42068289>Be me bi mtf> live okay as a femme bifag from 13->22>hair falls out and twinkdeath>like miserably from 22->28>make the decision to gonon hormones>3 years in and my quality of life has shot up, I no longer think about suicide and I'm a happily married mom>before that I felt terrible and blew up my life every few yearsLiterally who give a fuck if Djon at the Walmart calls me a man Or if I have to deal with schlubby contractors talking shit?I come home to a loving family and everyone respects me, I hwve a big friends group and they all respect me.If anything this has made me a borderline advocate of dropping dealing with cis het society and just enjoying the other queers.
>>42070547at least someone interacted with people here and understands
>>42068289I give in to the humiliation and let the frisson dissolve me. It's a left-hand spiritual path in preparation for death.
>>420697361 no one owes you respect 2 no one is required to take you seriously Both of these things are earned through action on your part
>>42069919penile inversion = prolapsed pussyppt = no possibility of prolapsenobody has touch sensation inside anyway that's not normal
