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normal happy people are not into transfolk. at all.
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>>42070216
>normal happy people
you mean, like eichmann?
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>>42070216
The lack of trans acceptance can only be placed squarely at the feet of trans people.
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>>42070216
I know, makes me want to rope
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>>42070263
how convenient for you! and, as we all know, as a cis person, your convenience is more important than my rights
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normal happy people just have to ruin everything dont they
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>>42070216
I'm not normal but I am happy and attractive
Pick your battles
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>>42070278
Why is it convenient?
It is just an observation.
The issues that trans people face are a result of the actions and rhetoric of trans people.
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How about you go after the actual reasons why trans exist in the first place
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>>42070216
I'm normal and I'm into trannies
I just use them for cheap sex though
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>>42070304
us trying to get hormones, so annoying! trying to be treated as legal equals to cis people, so stupid! we should just shut up and do what we're told like good little subhumans, then we'd get the rights we deserve, huh?
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>>42070320
evil
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>>42070328
Don't hate the player hate the game
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>>42070323
Those aren't actions and rhetoric though.
You are intentionally appearing stupid.
I refuse to believe somebody can ACTUALLY be so dumb.
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>>42070304
>It's those damn trannies fault for being trannies!
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>>42070337
>getting gender-affirming healthcare and legal documents that match your preferred gender are not "actions"
ditto and likewise, big hoss
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>>42070342
>>42070348
No they are "expectations".

"Actions" are things like rewriting language, putting out PSA's such as "If you won't date a trans woman, you're a transphobe".
Actions are intentionally looking for, and exploiting loopholes to put the worst bad faith actor in front of a TV camera after inserting bio males into female sports.
Actions are willingly creating public videos of very clearly visible males with long hair telling females that they WILL be entering the women's bathrooms, and nobody is going to stop them.

Stop your stupid "woe is me" spiel.
You don't care about any of it, and nobody else cares either
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>>42070216
Trans girls reading this thread, please explain this: Disregard the unkempt, overweight, socially retarded chasers you’re used to hearing about a second. Instead, imagine a man with a career and a social reputation to uphold. A man that is worth anything at all has the option to date a cis woman and not have to deal with the dysphoria, self-harm, brainworms, masculine features, infertility and social stigma that come with dating a trans woman. Why would he pick you over her if he was looking for anything other than a one night stand?
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>>42070278
Depends what you mean by rights. If you just mean your convenience, which you probably do, then lol
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>>42070216
>folk
thats why they're not into you
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>>42070401
This is what makes me want to rope. No decent man worth anything would want me for anything serious
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>>42070395
no, see, sweetie: for me, for ME, living in a non-shithole, where my legal documents reflect my gender, and i can access gender-affirming healthcare, they are "actions." for you, on terf island, where you loving having no rights and paying the television license, they are "expectations"
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>>42070395
>rewriting language
You mean having your legal sex status updated? Or you mean having insurance information updated so that they don't refuse care coverage?
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>>42070304
Sadly you’re not wrong, like as a member of a minority it’s lame that bad actors tend to ruin it for so many people, normies don’t care about people who work 9-5, who don’t post about their sexual fetishes or terrible political opinions, normies care about normies. But instead we have creeps and freaks at the forefront that want a mountain when they’re not even at a molehill, so instead for normie trans people they get shafted
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>>42070401
>if he was looking for anything other than a one night stand
Why would he pick a man for that? The only person who would accept a tranny as a sexual partner is already into them, aka a chaser/homosexual/deviant of some sort. It's literally impossible for a normal upstanding guy who would otherwise have a family to instead decide to start dating and then marry some man dressed as a woman and act like it's totally normal. If you want that shit you should just hold out for ai enhanced VR. It's probably not that far off for you to simulate anything you'd like, like being a superhero or going back and killing literally hitler or even getting to be a woman.
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>>42070421
You still seem very confused bro.
Come back when you are feeling better.
>>42070451
Neither of those are "language".
I'm talking about the separation of sex and gender only to then merge the two back together with the "I took a female hormone so I am LITERALLY a woman!" crap. Pick a damn lane.
>>42070461
As I said, it is always the worst of the bad actors.
In an ideal world, there would be no TRA's openly saying they smuggle DIY hormones to kids, there wouldn't be school teachers that refuse to let parents know that their kids are potentially at risk of self harm and suicide. There shouldn't be anybody that is very visibly male suing women for refusing to wax their balls, or going to Disney World and rating the women's toilets.

In an ideal world, nobody would know, or care, about people being trans.
However, some believe that their life story MUST be known and validated by the whole world.
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>>42070573
lol get fucked you abysmal shitstain. if you could. that must by why you parlay this idiocy so smugly. bit of the dry-clit, have we?
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>>42070606
Can you repeat that in English please?
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who would've thought decades of homo- and transphobia could have an effect
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>>42070629
>transphobia
A word that has no meaning
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>>42070638
ur retarded if you honestly think that
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Kind of related to the OP's thread, I've been wondering if I might be trans myself, but highly doubt I could be repressing something like this my entire life. I've always been fem to some extent but I never had the urge to do things like try makeup or dress like the opposite gender. This year, a lot of things changed for me, in ways I can't explain only feel. I found out I'm probably bi if not completely homo and closeted for a long time. What I want to know is this, why is it that when I meet someone from the opposite gender I happen to feel attracted to, why do I start seeing myself as them in my head? I'll see them during the day and then when I go home, I'lll sit down on the table and I see myself as them, they mimic my movements and gestures as I do. I don't remember anything like this before but now it happens so frequently I don't know if this means my mind thinks I'm them or the same gender as them, what could this mean, it's like I'm disassociating from my identity when it happens.
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>>42070610
wouldn't that make it harder for you?
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>>42070647
Gender envy maybe? I was kinda the same way, especially with sexuality. It's weird. Didn't have much crossdressing desire but didn't like being a guy that much growing up. Did have weird sex and gender issues though.
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>>42070648
Not really.
I'm not ESL. You aren't doing too bad though. You'll be fluent in a few years I think.
>>42070645
Transphobia is now on par with Racism.
It has become so broad a term that anybody could be deemed transphobic.

It's why nobody actually CARES about being called either.
It is meant to be a term used to shame people into silence and compliance.
The scope is so broad now that it has become redundant.
It now basically means "You don't think exactly what I think about this specific topic".
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>>42070707
>I'm not ESL
good for you. you had me fooled
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>>42070720
It's not hard to fool somebody who is ESL though, to be fair.
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>>42070680
It's possible, I don't know. I still feel what a man would feel if you know what I mean, but the problem is this seems to happen with just about anyone of the opposite gender I meet if I'm interested, eventually I start to see myself as them even if I don't really mean to. I know myself well enough I know I don't want to be them in a literal sense. What I'm afraid of is I I see myself as them because I'm homo to the extent I'm just trans so I may as well be considered someone of the opp gender.
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>>42070731
you better hope i'm not lmao. how fucking embarrassing would that be for you?
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>>42070768
Not as embarrassing as it would be for you I'd imagine.
Not being ESL but also not being about to put together a coherent sentence. Yikes.
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>>42070741
So you want to be a girl version of yourself? Sounds pretty trans to me.
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>>42070741
How old are you?

I'd consider exploring these feelings. Don't take them to mean anything in particular, but just let them develop.
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>>42070401
>A man that is worth anything at all has the option to date a cis woman and not have to deal with the dysphoria, self-harm, brainworms, masculine features, infertility and social stigma that come with dating a trans woman. Why would he pick you over her if he was looking for anything other than a one night stand?

If he's at least bi and doesn't want children, then personality makes the difference. It certainly did in my case.

Once the novelty wears off, personality is make or break. I serve him better.
Unironically having some understanding of men having been born male makes me better at being a partner to one.

I bring peace into his heart in a way many (most?) cis women don't and the younger ones aren't even willing to try. Socialization has been sucking for quite some time now, for both men and women. Which makes the experience worse for everyone (cis or trans).

I can't give him children, but I can give him a peaceful home. And have been for almost a decade.

sure, it helps that i'm a passoid and don't have too many visible brainworms - which makes me a pariah in trans spaces, but a nice person in most normie spaces. I also don't self-harm (never did, actually) and i actually like being me.
I literally transitioned to live as a woman and that's it.

Is it hard? Yes. But it is doable.
It does require being intentional about things, though. Having a good locus control also helps. A lot.
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>>42070795
and wouldn't it be just awful if, in the darkness of my esly ignorance, i still wrote insults that confounded a native speaker? such a one would be indeed pathetic, who handled their mother tongue with less aplomb than a foreigner
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>>42070851
Fortunately nobody was "confounded" by anything you said, and bringing up a thesaurus to try and find words to substitute common speech actually shows a much higher level of stupidity and narcissism than intelligence.
Keep at it though Raj. I believe in you.
Never give up.
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>>42070888
except for you, who asked me to repeat what i said, "in English." common core really did a number on you poor kids. if "aplomb" required a thesaurus there's really nothing i can do for you
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>>42070808
That's not my immediate response to these thoughts. They're more intrusive meaning they just happen to pop in my head even when I'm doing seemingly ordinary things. I have thought about what my future would look like if I was trans, doesn't sound terribly bad if I was only homo, but if I was really just bi with some other problem that could fix these intrusive thoughts I don't mind being me as I am.
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>>42070819
I'm already well into 30s that's why it's hard for me to believe I've been repressing something like this for this long.
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>>42070902
Nobody questions the word or its meaning.
I am simply questioning why you had to go to such great lengths to find a different word.
It took you nearly 10 minutes to formulate that reply when it could have been written in 20 seconds with all that you actually put in it.
And everyone knows that you have this tab open and refreshing every 15 seconds awaiting my response.
Pretty pathetic really, but you do you I guess.
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>>42070944
a bit full of ourselves, aren't we? i'm surprised you managed it, given how dry your clitoris and the surround regions must be
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>>42070904
Sounds like me. I have no idea if I'm trans or not. The thoughts just appear at random. I worry I'm not trans or dysphoric enough to transition.
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>>42070985
Do you want to transition?
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>>42070835
it also requires honesty with yourself and the world, and clarity to not let mental illness cloud your judgement.
it's a thorny road.
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>>42070994
I don't know. Sometimes it feels like a weird delusion. Sometimes it feels like a dirty fetish. Sometimes I yearn to be a girl. Sometimes I worry that all my worrying will just make me delay it until I John50.
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>>42070970
>a bit full of ourselves, aren't we?
Maybe one of us, and it isn't me bro.
Funnily enough, I don't have a clitoris, and that might have sounded better if you used the word "surrounding" instead of "surround".
Remember not to let this get you down though Raj.
Sure, it's a mistake that not even a 5 year old native speaker would make, but I still believe in you.
You are doing Vishnu's work, my guy.
Don't give up. You got this!
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>>42071024
Maybe try fagging out a little and see what you do. Maybe a 5ARD blocker for very mild feminization (skin and hair).
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>>42071034
Sometimes I wear eyeliner and nail polish, but I still don't feel very feminine. And I kinda stopped recently because I was worried I had AGP.

>5ARD blocker
Where can I get those? Same place as the regular trannies get their HRT?
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>>42071032
tbhon, you already lost your opportunity to pull pedant when you failed to correct my misuse of the word "thesaurus." now you just seem like a racist cunt (you are)
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>>42071012
I suppose it is thorny if you have multiple mental illnesses.
But if one doesn't, then it's no more thorny than for cis people, desu
People under 30 struggle to form relationships a lot more than they did when I got with my bf. It seems that everyone has gotten brainworms.

15 years ago I would've agreed that it's a lot worse for trannies. now i'm not so sure anymore. It seems the cis majority has followed the worst path of the worst trannies. They're all more shut-ins, more neurotic, more lonely and have increasingly weirder ideas.

idk if this can be solved easily on a collective level. But individually i do what i can. I always tell teenagers to delete social media and stay away from predatory ideas. Those who listen do get better. Those who don't, well, don't.

It also doesn't help that trannies like me are unwelcome in queer spaces which are now dominated by victim-minded people and retarded ideologies. The "support groups" are basically supporting vulnerable queer teens into becoming gigacommie useful idiots.

I wish i had the drive to try to counteract this. But then i realize that even if i tried, it wouldn't be welcomed. Because nowadays it's fashionable to be a victim teen way into one's 30s. Any talk about how to mature and self-actualize is "right wing" or "oppressive" or whatever the terminology is these days.
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>>42071056
You can get Finasteride or Dutasteride that way, yep. Fin is easier to get but Dutasteride is better and stronger imo.
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>>42071058
I'm actually an everythingistphobe.
You name it, I am opposed to it.
I'm not going to spell check everything for you. That would be a full time job and you wouldn't be able to afford that.
I was merely pointing out an error that might help you when you want to work towards obtaining a visa or citizenship.
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>>42070278
You guys were way too aggressive in trying to bully people with the institutions, forcing compelled speech like gendering down people's throats. Trans people are subject to the same criteria all people are subject to, which is that looks matter. Westerns who go to Thailand for example don't have any issue with the ladyboys over there because they put in effort to pass. Too many bearded freaks in dresses in the west demanding to be taken seriously really poisoned the well for the rest of trans people unfortunately.

tldr; Blame the hons
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>>42071101
>You name it, I am opposed to it
your continued respiration
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>>42071120
I could be the white Saint Floyd.
Anyway.
It's been fun and very emotional (for you, it seems), but I have better things to do with my time right now Raj.
Hopefully we can catch up soon and see how you are progressing with your English.
I might be back in a few days. I'll keep an eye out for your broken English and overt use of a thesaurus to sound more intelligent.
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>>42071151
>I could be the white Saint Floyd
god, i wish you were. really, have fun with that. lmao
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>>42070573
>school teachers that refuse to let parents know that their kids are potentially at risk of self harm and suicide
Translation: wee why does my kid have privacy why can't i know everything about them so i can beat them for it wee



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