>>42078911
Based. If "trans kids" want to transition and pass, then all they need to do is be intersex and wait until adulthood.

>>42078911
>Levine
imagine being a tranny and not realizing your life's purpose is a biological weapon for another tribe

>>42078957
Imagine transitioning because you thought it was your own idea, lmaaooo

HAVA
NAGILA HAVA

lotsa samefagging today, huh?
>>41954674

>>42078911
>block medical treatments
>against bodily autonomy
so which one is it?
if you're doing tranny shit because of bodily autonomy, that is not medicine. that's cosmetics.

>>42079048
Gender transition should be allowed as bodily autonomy for adults, but not covered by insurance. Self pay only.

>>42079048
It's both, dumbass.

>>42079052
that's the conclusion i reached too
stop pretending trans stuff is medicine. treat it the same way we treat boob or nose jobs or getting voluntarily sterilized. adults only, no insurance or public support whatever, doing it to kids should be a career ending felony.

>>42079048
>chops your balls off
Sorry but high test makes you lifespan shorter. Your bodily autonomy ends where my opinions on medicine begin

>>42079070
I paid for my transition back in the day, including SRS. We all did. Trannies today have no resilience.

>>42079071
Forcing medical treatment on someone without their consent is unethical

>>42079061
it can't be both
the point of medicine is you have no choice over the treatment, it's dictated by your health condition
that is antithetical to autonomy, which is a person's free choice
we don't defend real medical treatments on the ground of autonomy, medicine exists to make the patient better
all "trans healthcare" is a fake and gay excuse to let perverts and gooners have fetish surgery and hormones
now i don't hate perverts and gooners, i just want them to be honest about it, stay away from kids, and not place a burden on the public to pay for their voluntary pervert gooner surgeries.

>>42079070
>>42079082
>>42079052
>>42079048
for every word of this retardation i am going to send out diy hormones to a tranny 12 year old

>>42079082
psyop lol

>>42079098
No you're not

>>42079096
>we don't defend real medical treatments on the ground of autonomy, medicine exists to make the patient better
We do do that, and medicine can both be voluntary or heavily recommended voluntary (see - birth control)
your retardation is simply thinking a doctor can just push the pills down your throat. No nigga.

>>42079096
Part of medical treatment is requiring patient consent and giving the patient the choice to pursue treatment as well as choose among treatment options, dumbfuck.

>>42079052
That sounds... sane and reasonable?
Inb4 the thread is flooded with radical leftists screeching about how you MUST allocate state tax dollars to pay for experimental drugs and genital surgeries for 7 year olds or you're literally genociding lgbt people and they're going to force-feed illegal drugs to your children anyway (like >>42079098)

>>42079114
birth control also isn't medicine btw

>>42079116
the patient consents to the treatment which is dictated by their disease, that is not the same as autonomy, which is treating the doctor like a treatment dispenser

>>42079107
How? SRS cost me the equivalent of $30k today. That's very affordable. That's the price of a new car.

>>42079096
>fetish surgery and hormones
Let's ban all "reconstructive surgery" then.
>No, you do not need a new dick after getting it blown off. You don't need a new nose or new tits, or new fingers. Wanting them is just a fetish. You're a pervert for wanting breasts, a disgusting pervert (i don't hate perverts btw i just want them to be perverts but not in society)
We can also go a mile longer, let's not remove any benign tumors. Let's not fund prosthetics. Let's not fund anything at all. What if any "better feeling" after any medical procedure is just the patient gooning to "being healthy"?

>>42079140
>he paid $30k (inflation adjusted) to cut his dick off
lmao

>>42079089
Why? Its for your own good, and your right to have your own body is purely cosmetic. You can pay for ball implants out of pocket if it bothers you that much, but its my choice (and ethical responsibility) to keep you healthy, and its my medical opinion that living longer is the only meaningful metric, so chop chop. Im not sure why you're complaining, this is your idea after all

>>42079137
you see little janet, you're a pervert for not wanting cysts on your ovaries and have to wait with birth control until 18, that anon said so

>>42079140
>Very affordable
>It's the median yearly take-home pay in the US
>Not counting time needed off of work, cost of corrections, cost of complications, etc

>>42079161
And it was totally worth it.

>>42079140
A car costs 15k€
you paid for two cars

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>>42078911
A few years ago this getting even close to considered passing was impossible
The fact that it passed the house and will be a sliver close to almost passing the senate, it is concrete evidence that we straight men are fed up with your trannies bullshit
You didn't want to fuck us guys, all we wanted was to fuck your ass and maybe suck your girl wand. But no. You fucking agp porn addicted freaks turned exclusively t4t.
You're bullshit is over. We're not allowing it. Leave my country.

>>42079183
cope

>>42079176
I dealt with the minor complications myself using a silver nitrate pencil.
Just take out a bank loan if you don't have the money upfront.
>>42079188
A new Honda Accord costs just under $30k.

>>42079137
>Medicine is what I say is medicine

>>42079204
Cope for what? I'm satisfied with the result.

>>42079207
Do you know what quality SRS costs out of pocket nowadays?

>>42079176
their job is just sucking dick lol you dont get PTO for that

>>42079193
oh nooo i forgot to fuck the weird creepy chasers who fetishize me, guess i really do deserve to die

>>42079216
>out of pocket
heh

>>42079213
You think people should take out loans to get castrated. You are literally the antichrist, and it's kinda funny how you cant see that.

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>>42079223
>eww you are le creepy
>now excuse me as I go exclusively fuck other trannies, time to frot! Byeeee!!!
You had your chance to be accepted into society, instead you closed yourself off and spread anti male feminist tier shit all over ignoring guys who just wanted to make you happy.
Sucks to suck, now you pay the price, whore.

>>42079233
>castrated
lmao. I still get horny. Sex feels good.
If you can't get off without testosterone, then... skill issue?
>>42079216
A good penile inversion vaginoplasty? I would guess around $50k self pay today. Still not a huge amount of money.

>>42079233
>>You think people should take out loans to get castrated.

>Noooo you have to pay for my fuckpocket!!!

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>>42079207
>$30k
you are being bamboozled by american car manufacturers

>>42079288
That's just another reason why im moving to russia at the end of the month

>>42079277
$50k is a huge amount of money when the median savings of US adults is $8k

>>42079288
I also earn an American salary which is much more than double the European salary for the same job.

>>42079277
>just go into debt to permenently disfigure yourself, the sex will be great!
you are literally the antichrist

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I'm gay and voted for precisely this

>>42079307
the average US adult spends all xer savings on matcha lattes and labubus
if most people deal with student debt you can deal with SRS debt
just stop buying avocado toast and doordash every other day and maybe cut out the second premium movie service subscription and you'll get it paid off in no time

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>>42079311
>mutts unironically lie to themselves to cope with the fact that capitalist elites rape them every waking moment
Lol
Lmao even

>>42079282
you should put your money into an ETF and forget about it for 30 years

>>42079307
Okay? Make some lifestyle sacrifices to build up more savings?

>>42079336
I have significant savings, but I'm also wealthier than the median US adult and especially the median tranny.

Even fully employed trannies make about 60% of the median.

>>42079332
>higher salaries
>lower taxes
>cheaper real estate
>larger homes
Oh yeah lol living in America is so terrible compared to Europe

>>42079361
>Lower taxes
>American
You're fucking stupid lmao

>>42078911
and it only took ruining the economy, dismantling freedom and gutting every state institution!

>>42079321
And yet I'm happy.

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>>42078911
I cant see that guardian format without giggling a little bit when I remember the funny ones

>>42078973
>>42078957
You guys make Jews seem a lot cooler than they really are really are. If Jews were some global tranny vanguard, I'd think Jews rock.

>>42079325
Hope you get kaposi's lesions all over your body

>>42079098
why do you apparently know so many 12 year olds?

>>42079321
>(((debt))) is real, you have an ethical obligation to repay financial institutions!!!
>stop having sex with genitals that look how YOU want them to be!!! Only I decide what surgeries happen to your cock!!!
Yes... we're the antichrist...

Distraction from the Epstein files.

>>42079135
>experimental drugs
Ah, so "experimental drugs" are fine only when given to kids exclusively to make them taller or to look more "normal".
Also, another retardation post, more hormones to 12 year olds it is

>>42079620
lol gottem

The average american believes that mutilating children is good when the child is physically unable to protest and any procedure where the child actually consents to it is bad which says a lot about the nation
Inb4 radical retards screeching about "muh drugs" or "muh surgeries" >>42079135

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>>42079620
Why do you kikes bite infant foreskins off?

>>42079193
Didn't read. Get off my board, scumbag.

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>>42079268
Get the fuck out of here, trash.

>>42079959
You know, I used to consider myself a libertarian, live and let live. But I never imagined that it would mean one day having to explain to leftists that giving illegal drugs unsupervised to children is wrong. I guess conservatives were right all along. It really is a slippery slope. If left unchecked, soon you'll be hearing stuff like "zoophilia isn't a big deal chud, those animals were always longing to feel the love of a human".

>>42081151
Every libertarian eventually discovers that they have limits

>>42081151
>Illegal drugs
>Unsupervised

>>42081151
>Unsupervised
They whole point is conservatoids are banning the supervision you retard

>>42078911
I thought troons had always existed and are an inherent part of humanity. How can they be made to not exist? Does being a troon depend on being seen trooning out? If a troon ACK!s in the forest, and no one's around to hear him, does he make a sound?

>>42079996
Sorry about your dry girldick, Lilith (formerly Hans).

>calls trannies pedo's
>votes for the pedo in chief
make it make sense.

>>42078957
Most people with drug habits don't realize who their dealers are.

>>42079082
It only cost $1,800

>>42081713
Just an orchi costs more than that now.

>>42078911
sadism is rotting your soul anon
it's still not too late to stop being evil

>>42081641
Reaction formation. Like the homophobe who turns out to be gay, or the chud that later troons out.

>>42082125
Not OP, but lecturing like that falls super flat from people whose idea of a joke is "I violently murder the woman for not callinf me a woman".

>>42079135
I'm right wing, not a leftist. HRT for trannies is not new or experimental. If public healthcare covers normies with unique medical needs it should cover ours as well. Or everybody gets privatized healthcare, and what insurance companies cover is actually left to the free market instead of the government intervening to force them to fuck specifically us over.
Making trannies wait until after 18 to get surgeries isn't a problem, because surgery won't get exponentially less effective with age like hrt does. Forcibly barring trannies from HRT until after their bodies may have been irreversibly damaged is incredibly cruel and can potentially doom that person to misery for the rest of their life (though to what extent being a midshit will destroy an individual's potential is genetics-dependent).
>>42081151
abandoning your values because you fell for a moral panic isn't something to brag about

>>42082383
Is that my idea of a joke? I've seen a couple tone-deaf memes with that as the punchline and I haven't found a single one of them funny (or le scary like people pretend they are), just cringe.

>>42082471
>le scary
No one thinks they're scary. Just extremely telling.

>>42082755
yeah I know, you just pretend to for concern trolling purposes

>>42082868
Do you know what telling, in the adjective senss, means?