We all know that at least 50% of you passing is your voice. Some anons even say that it's 80%. And yet, threads about voice are relatively rare. We're all hyperfixated on our faces and bodies to the point where we post some weird quirky measurments of ours, yet we miss something really important. Something that we can actually control, but only a few of us knows exactly how. Forget your height, bideltoid and WHR. What unironically matters more is your pitch range, F1 frequency at /a/ and roll-off per octave.
>>42084987It’s because of AGAMPs. They don’t want to voice train because being trans itself is part of the fetish
>>42085003That's not true at all. The literal answer is that brainwormed people don't want to stop boydmoding and are terrified of social transition. For them, aggravating their dysphoria and lurking in places like this and focusing on why they don't pass is like a plot device to not transition. So they never voice train and then when they never malefail they take that as proof that they wnbaw and the cycle of hrt manmoding and posting on here continues.
i wont voice train until i malefail consistently without speaking
it is a combination of voice threads being very high-effort on the part of both posters doing the actual voice-training and posters giving advice, and half the population being convinced that voice-training is just impossible for some people so there is no point in trying at all.i made a voice-training general a few days ago and zero people posted in it despite another thread being up in which people were complaining about not knowing how to voice-trainit is rough..
>>42085026Just get good.
>>42085035Detransitioner, boymoder and repper culture taking over the board is literally why I don't come here anymore it's so toxic
>>42085037i got denied hrt as a kid and then raped at 18 and then by the time i started hrt my pelvis was fused
>>42084987I'd say its more like 30-40%. You can get away with a "fagcent" if you're hot.
>>42085047pelvis is the least of your worries
>>42085026friend you can voice-train now either way. just don't speak, or keep speaking as you do now. then you'll already be done by the time you are malefailing.
girl u bumped the last voice training thread with this why not read the catalogue before posting thisanyway this is the voice training thread nowhttps://voca.ro/1iiZwji3uZ20
>>42085240After second 24-ish it got really REALLY good.Imo you don't have to pitch it even higher. If you can keep the pace from ~30s mark then that's it.Try to take some throat clearing puffs so your breath doesn't sound that noisy.Keep up the good work, nona!
>>42085240I don't believe in only 1 voice training thread. Count all the threads that focus on whether your body passes or whether you have good measurments. When we finally start paying our voices the attention they deserve, there will be more than just one or two hanging threads about voice.
>>42085025This is me
>>42085325>arguing with reppers about the efficacy of voice instead of posting clipsi mean i guess!>>42085259i am very excited, i feel like i unlocked the next level. i have been working on voice since february, and while i've gotten to a comfy and technically competent voice it's a little nasally and stuff. very excited for this next stagehttps://voca.ro/15CwAnNJ0iE4
>>42085362you sound like a cartoon network character (positive)
>>42084987man i hate when ppl put it like that like people won't be able to gender you while mute. voice is completely separate from visual passing and not including it in passing discussions is a valid strat. vast majority of people who gender you won't hear it before they doagree lack of voice threads sucks tho
>>42085343voice is the only thing that matters. if you can master feminized voice it doesnt matter what your shoulder to hip ratio is, people will treat you as a woman. i know it's scary to imagine being treated as a woman 99% of the time but it's within your reach
>>42085362I am not OP. Glad you liked the term nona. I find it cute too. It wasn't around when I was more active.>i feel like i unlocked the next levelYou did.At the end of this level is speaking more age appropriate.From 32s to 39s is very adult and REALLY good. The rest is still too teenage-y.Maybe it is my bias (started in 2011 and I'm almost 40) but I also started being taken a lot more seriously, professionally speaking, when I finally overcame the teenage-y accent/intonation.Don't get excessively fixated on this. The reason the term "baby trans" exists is precisely because the whole experience is a growth process.>i have been working on voice since februaryReally impressive! I needed almost 2 yrs to get to your level. But the early 2010s were a different world as well.I was already researching voice surgery when it finally all clicked together.>it's a lonely processIt needn't be. Get to socializing with strangers. Even the sweetest people are 4chan-level of judges. Once you pass those (and you will, it's clear from your voice that you can do it), then that's literally it.Keep up the good work. Rooting for you!
>>42085401im organizing watch parties for my local girlies>februarythats actually when i made my first breakthrough, i did voice initially in 2020 but was a depressed babytrans with a lot of problems and couldnt understand what was going wrongwont get too in my head about age presentingi've been a trans elder for the babytrans in my life for the past year it's nice to get praised for progress instead of doing the praising. thank u.u
>>42085414>girliesbarf
>>42085366which one btw
I voice trained for a while but every time I did I had strain, and I couldn’t isolate it, so I had no idea what was causing it. Eventually I gave up. I wanna start fresh and go back to basics, but I can never find good guides.People just relentlessly recommend TVL (who I find impossible to follow) or the Selene archive, which I also don’t really care for. I was following L’s Voice Training Guide and I liked the structure of that. Is there anything similar that could help?
>>42085430none in particular, just like conceptually. got that cozy quirky vibe
I voice trained when this middle aged man was like "Hey young lady!" while doing shit in his driveway while I was on a walk. Cat got my tongue and I didn't know how to respond cuz I didn't want to speak back with a man voice and weird him out
>>42085414>im organizing watch parties for my local girliesThat's a good start.Try comedies. Being able to speak while laughing is really good for voice training.Festivals were the best for me. Having to speak loudly/louder without losing pitch was great training. It also helped that Metal festivals attract really nice people.Even when I'd fail with a chud he'd be like "ha, that's so funny. Want some beer?">i've been a trans elder for the babytrans in my life for the past yearThank you for your service.This would be one of the reasons I sorta got back around these boards (tho overwhelmingly I'm kinda disappointed). There is no guidance anymore and the queer spaces have gotten full of crabs in the bucket mentality (in addition to fetishists and other known problems).>it's nice to get praised for progressYou're more than welcome.Generally I take the nastiness because I try to be fair rather than hugboxing. It's legit a privilege NOT to be locked in a hugbox. Or at least that's my view given that I wanted to be a functional woman and not a depressed marginal nerd.
>>42085457watch parties of voice training thingies!!!its important to learn! it's important to growi had this interaction with an early transition girl which made me laugh. she's kinda cute and sarcastic, so she'd always argue really silly things with me. *or so i thought* until she very seriously apologized to me, said she thought i was "the queen of [local] trans girls and lets everyone know it," and that i adhered strictly to the gender binary. just because i said skirts are nice and tablets are annoying cuz u have to take them all day every day
