The internet is a wonderful place.By this point I have seen hundreds of examples of human males exhibiting female mating behaviours. And the official count of how many of these exist might be on the low millions. Many different names are given to them, "twink bottom", "femboy", "HSTS", "trap", "ladyboy", "catamite", etc. The list goes on and on. Many of them are quite succesful on seducing men.So, if we go by picrel, then does not that imply that tops are simply not gay? They are not behaving like women, they are just being seduced by other males with varying degrees of femininity that have been succesful at seducing them.>picreli had seen it in this faggot board and wanted to make a thread out of it but i forgot to save it so i recreated it
Its obviously not gay to dominate a femboy/tranny. So retarded. Dominating a fag is actually straight as fuck because you are projecting your masculinity onto a failed male, you are the superior male. How could that be gay?
>>42093493Roman rvlestop is not gay
>>42093493>>42093536>>42093794On the one hand, this is based and hot, as a bottomOn the other hand, I am a monmoder and I want to be taken seriously
>>42093493"gay" is the way modern society describes what is probably a couple different phenomenathe lack of distinction between positions within the common understanding of "gay" is not the historically majority understanding, it was pretty common in a lot of pre-abrahamic societies for gay tops to not be considered different from straight tops. This is a well known social phenomenon in ancient greece, rome, as well as being a feature of samurai culture in japan. they probably would have still considered you weird if you only fucked men and didn't marry a woman, and there would have been a lot of social pressure to do so, but it definitely would not have been considered anything near the same thing as only fucking men as a bottom. That would absolutely put you in a social outcast category or third gender, while being an exclusive gay top would not. while obviously being gay is a real biological phenomenon, the way society understands being gay is not necessary accurate to the biology of it.
>>42093536This is exactly what being gay is fucking another masculine guy
i'm not castrated and i ended up a bottom. so like, why? i'm pretty much a normal male in most regards, and yet, have no desire for straight sex.
>>42094685because there are critical periods of development that don't happen later if they're skipped. The critical period of the sex center of the brain is between 12-18 months, so your brain wasn't exposed to enough testosterone during that period, either because of the womb environment or genetic factors or whatever. Your brain and body might be otherwise normal, but that part of the brain missed the window to grow from a female to male form. it's different for rats because the periods of development are different. You can't castrate a human at birth to prevent that development like you can a rat.
>>42093493For all legal purposes, I am a straight top sis.
>>42094724what the fuck, so i have a female brain with a male body? idk 'bout that, i mean i have some agp but it's not like a major feature of my personality. i think the main reason why i'm a bottom is because it feels good.
So just for the protocol:>A guy will put on stripy socks, call himself femboy or twink and all of a sudden putting your pp roight up his shitta while he exclaims manly moans is considered not gayam I getting that right?
>>42093493God hates fags
>>42094784yes, or at least the part of your brain that determines sexual behavior is closer to female than maleeveryone starts out with a female brain structure, and exposure to testosterone as a fetus causes it to develop male characteristics
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>>42093493YesThey're all porn addicted dudes who think fucking teenage femboys and trannie ass makes you gayThe percentage of real gay tops is extremely rare. Id say less than 10%.If you call yourself a gay top and don't want to fuck hairy or masculine man ass, you're just a straight dude addicted to porn
>>42094820google inah3 critical period
>>42094813still doesnt explain tops or even fem tops for that matter. i'm talking about cis males btw, just to clarify.
>>42094835it's just about prenatally determining if you're gay or trans which makes sense, not prenatally assigning people to be tops or bottoms kek
>>42094838humans are complicated and there isn't just one part of the brain that makes you a fem topunfortunately nobody has done a study on the brain differences between fem tops and masc tops, most studies don't try to distinguish tops from bottoms at all.
>>42094868>which makes sense
>>42094891i mean that it makes more sense that the studies was looking for common sings of gayness and transness vs predetermining sexual dominance or submissiveness. if we had the latter more people would hear about it since it would definitely be used as a defense in rape cases.
>>42094868bottoms arent trans >:(
>>42094907? i didn't say they were. this other guy seems to think so tho
>>42094868yeah but read >>42094586the point is that biologically, being gay isn't one thing where the difference between tops and bottoms is arbitrary preference. Determining if someone is gay or trans is a proxy for determining if someone is a top or a bottom. It seems more likely that "top" and "bottom" are more fundamental sex behaviors, and things like "gay" and "trans" are complex behaviors that occur within a "top/bottom" bimodal system.also consider that in a lot of the older studies of brain regions like the inah3 in gay men, the men were often assumed to be gay because they died of aids, and their brains were donated to science. That's why later studies after the first simon levay one was on the effect of HIV on the inah3. But it's a lot easier to get aids from bottoming than topping, so it's likely that the gay men studied in a lot of these early brain dissections were mostly bottoms. I don't believe that there has ever been a study like this which compares the brains of gay men by position preference.
a male that can please other males is superior to females in almost every way aside from their inability to reproduce.because lets be real, men don't really like spending time with women, they only do it for the pussy. we all know this, even women know this; it's literally the unspoken secret of society. men = want to fuck, women = want to make babyit's that simplebut if the man doesn't want to make baby, but wants to fuck, then there's a problem?fear not, that's where the bottom comes in. imagine a male buddy who you actually enjoy spending time with, who also takes your loads. perfect right? who needs women when you can go and get yourself a nice, well-behaved bottom who genuinely enjoys your company and doesn't complain like women do.
>>42094938>It seems more likely that "top" and "bottom" are more fundamental sex behaviors, and things like "gay" and "trans" are complex behaviors that occur within a "top/bottom" bimodal system.i don't things are necessarily that simple. i don't think gayness or transness directly correlate to being a top or bottom, even though they both exist on similar axes of sexual behaviors.maybe you could argue this is true for gayness if we go by your definition of only cism bottoms as gay men and cisf tops as lesbians. but when you consider transness it falls apart a bit. even if you take the position of considering straight mtfs as an extreme expression of gayness and straight ftms as an extreme expression of lesbianism you still have to consider gaydens and transbians. even if you consider them (and top straight mtfs/bottom straight ftms) faketrans this theory doesn't do much to explain their dysphoria or behaviors. if we view all transbians as tops seeking bottom cisfs and all gaydens as bottoms seeking top cisms their act of transitioning makes no sense, especially for transbians, as it is highly likely to repel the target audience, so to speak.additionally, how would bisexual or asexual people of any gender/sex fit into this?
>>42094821because most gay are vers, but strict topping because you are attracted to femininity versus masculinity is an interesting subject, regardless of reason though, you engage in gay sex when you fuck a man in the ass doesn't matter what he looks like, and most people would consider those who have gay sex to be gay
>>42094685It does not imply it's only castration, any hormonal imbalance that makes boys girlier usually turns them like thisIt also turns them dumber...
>>42094785No. You missed the part where the guy is ACTUALLY a femboy/twink and I am referring to him as that and he is not a faggot on reddit larping as an animu trap.
>>42095592Those don't exist
>>42095603There is a couple of millions of them.If you are a "straight" tranny, you count as one to me. There is really no difference between you and them
>>42093536>>42094662Both sexes are male. How is it not gay.
>>42093536maming posts like this is gayer than fucking a guy
