>>42103988
> I'm done with the trans & lgbt community, you guys fucked our optics up so bad that I'm genuinely considering killing myself
I was sympathetic until you started spewing this babble. Hope you keep being a hon and ack, we dont need anymore chuddy pick-me cunts like you :)

>>42104033
The community is genuinely bad tho

>>42104048
Another trip blocked. bye!

>>42104033
lol sorry I don't want to be associated with you retards who activley push transition onto kids & want to go into womens spaces with a full on beard, ppl like you are why regular trans ppl are suffering today.

>>42104075
>thinks never passing would be worse than death
>against early transition

>>42104033
I'm not radicalized into anything stupid but I do agree with op, I was personally abused by progressive troons and its caused me a lot of pain that I can't find answers for, if we want to be a united community again we need to take out the trash.

>>42104075
Most trannies dont do that
Also minors getting gac is not a bad thing, though it is bad when it's "forced"

>>42103988
>If i cant pass In like 4 years

Unless your genetics have been immensely kind to you, it's unlikely you can pass in just 4 years. I needed almost 6 and my genetics have been quite kind.

>I'm done with the trans & lgbt community

This is the correct step. I did the same after 3 years on HRT. It was the second best decision after the decision to transition.
The crabs in the bucket mentality is genuinely harmful. And the recent fuck ups on optics are an additional problem which didn't exist when i was baby trans.

Ultimately it's an individual journey. Give it time, nona. Don't put (too) hard limits on it.
Also, use the time you gain to voicetrain and find your style and your new life. Then proceed to ENJOY it.
Life is meant to be lived, not survived or justified to fetishists and hons on the internet or turbocommie retards in the "community"

Merry Christmas!

>>42104075
>push transition onto kids
nobody is doing that. you fell for lies, sorry babe
>want to go into womens spaces with a full on beard
most trans dont do this or tolerate this tho? you are falling for chuddy generalizations cuz youre a nasty dumb bitch. trans ppl should be able to say and do dumb shit without it being a referendum on every single tranny. the fact you take the chud line and blast your own community shows what an evil ugly bitch you are. stay a seething bitterhon and ack ok?

>>42103988
>cisoids ruin your life
>trannies get blamed for it
a tale as old as time

>>42104109
>Most trannies dont do that
it's the fact that a lot of trannies defend it & think that u can be trans without gender dysphoria.
>Also minors getting gac is not a bad thing, >though it is bad when it's "forced"
the vast majority of kids who have GD desist once they reach near adulthood & usually just become gay or lesbian, now would it help them pass better if they got GAC at like 8? yes. but is that ethical when we know that they have a high chance of growing out of it if they didn't transition? absolutely the fuck not. a child cannot consent & I'm not gonna argue with someone who thinks that a kid can make a decision like that on their own.

>>42104155
> I'm not gonna argue with someone who thinks that a kid can make a decision like that on their own.
lmao what a cop out. “here is my dogshit ill-informed opinion and I am NOT listening to any arguments against it whatsoever!” fuck off already retard. we dont want you here.

>>42104116
thank you for literally being the only sensible person on this thread & Merry christmas c:

>>42104168
if by "we" you mean ppl who think that 8 year old children can consent to permanently sterilizing their bodies then GOOD !! I don't want to be a part of ur weird disgusting fucking community, like I said im fucking leaving it soon anyways, you guys go against literally almost everything I stand for and are the reason why half the country fucking hates us & wants us dead.

>>42104196
you are a hon. you are more of an opticsnuke than whatever made up bullshit you were told about 8 year olds trooning. you are the one terrorizing women in the bathroom by your mere ogre-like presence, not me.

>>42104155
>the vast majority of kids who have GD desist once they reach near adulthood

Yes. But then there's no follow up.

> usually just become gay or lesbian
We legit don't know that. Because no follow-up studies have been made.
Nona, I wish that were true in my case. Sadly, it wasn't.
GD from 6(?) to 19. Then no problems. Then hits me hard at 30. Gets worse every single day every since.
Now 39.
Luckily I'm unmoved by internet brainworms about "too late" and i'm starting in two weeks. I just can't take it anymore.
I really hoped that the studies' conclusions were true. And they were,... for a while. Until they weren't.

>now would it help them pass better if they got GAC at like 8? yes.
The problem is that we don't know that either. The Jazz Jennings case isn't quite hopeful.
But you're right, it's also impossible to ethically study this.

As much as I'd like to think GAC would've helped me at 7 (assuming it were available - which wasn't the case), I can't honestly say that. What if I still had "grown out of it" at 19 like it happened in real life?

Fact of the matter is that this is a nuanced thing. Although >>42104116 has a point though.
I will probably fuck off from these spaces as well once I start HRT.

>>42104222
lol what? I don't use the women's restroom ?? when did I say that I did ? I know I don't fully pass yet so I chose not to like a normal fucking person would do; I'm not the one advocating for fetishists with fucking pot bellies & beards to use the women's room, unlike you I actually care about what women think & maybe if ppl like you in the community thought the same as ppl like me we wouldn't be in this mess.

>>42104300
>nooooo you cant make shit up!
>but here is a bunch of made up bullshit i am going to keep telling you that you believe
ok pedo. remember to do us all a favor and ack in 4 years when you still dont pass, hons like you are more of an opticsnuke than whatever the algorithms baited you into seething about

>>42104155
>GAC 8
>Steensma et. al
Lol kys psyop

>>42104344
im a pedo for saying that children can't consent? lmao, I cant even make this shit up, you guys are genuinely so retarded

>>42104457
dont forget to rope in 4 years when you’re still a walking opticsnuke :) and please keep your rapestick out of the women’s bathroom, little girls are in there.

>>42103988
Poopy

>>42104457

you're a pedo for implying any form of bodily autonomy should be deferred to parents regardless of how basic it is, yeah.

"parents rights" and the idea children can't make any decisions for themselves/that parents should always have the final say is the foundation for how actual pedophilia happens, 90% of CSA cases are committed by close family members

I started hrt 7 years ago now. I’m still p visibly and “outwardly” trans (as in its no secret). It really does blow having that always be the elephant in every room im in. I’m in the south so I never really had a big trans community just a couple friends at different times. I still live my life doing things i love and fortunately have many cool friends who are ok with me. But yeah its exhausting..