its so weird and bizarre. the man give and the woman receives. the man is expected to do something to win the attention of the woman. the woman is supposed to lose some of her autonomy to this man. the man has to initiate everything while the woman has to choose when. the man is supposed to pay for things while the woman should look desirable. it freaks me out how they go about dating and the times i did date in straight relationships i felt so disgusted by it. why cant it just be two people who do what they want when they want instead of waiting for one partner to start. im not explaining my thoughts well but basically i enjoy dating in a queer relationship. it feels like all these archaic standards arent present which is nice. except when ppl start talking abt tops and bottom bleh why do we gotta act like straggots.T. transbian
>>42111261cishet dating culture makes me be glad i'm a retarded twinkhon
>>42111791ikr it just seems like so retarded
>>42111261i was a lesbian pre-t and aside from a small period of experimentation i've never deviated from only liking women.after observing cis straight people i think that they tolerate each other at best. straight cis men and straight cis women only seem to barely have lust for each other and no love for each other. it's like they're attracted to the idea of each other as opposed to the reality.people make fun of "i hate my wife" boomer culture but it really is a common thing for straight couples. i think it's also why a lot of women now are political lesbians.
obviously this ISN'T how every heterosexual relationship goes in 2025, and partners can happily be coequal and even mostly nonsexual, but you didn't think about that before you opened that mouth of yourssee, i can do it too. i hate how transbian people go about relationships, it's so weird and bizarre. one or both people are supposed to be the live-in nurse and therapist for the other, and the relationship is expected to be at least somewhat polyamorous by default. every couple is a carbon copy of the same liberal faithless hedonist archetype and if someone doesn't die of an overdose or cheat the bond becomes infinitely more utilitarian than the worst trophy wife cis relationships
>>42112257> straight cis men and straight cis women only seem to barely have lust for each other and no love for each other. it's like they're attracted to the idea of each other as opposed to the reality.this exactly. the relationship isnt just for love but to them more importantly social status. thats why theres some fucking delima for guys if they should get with a woman they like because they are fat/ugly/trans cus their friends would mock him for it. after being the fag of the friend group for a while ive realized women are about the same too. its really disheartening, why cant they just be normal?
>>42112383>not ALL x do this!!!Yeah just like a really high percentage of them, not all
>>42112383r u retarded? i know theres normal cishets. but like most of them act like this and u cant lie to me and say they dont.
>>42112383stupid idiot!
queer dating would be better than straggot dating if it wasnt marred by polyamory and mental illness olympics
>>42112441in this modern age of the social media panopticon looks are everything sadly.although i did notice that the women who mock short men are insanely short themselves, like 4'11"-5'3" territory, and men who mock fat women are usually fat themselves.
>>42112517yeah i agree w the poly stuff. i mean if it works for ppl then great but theres already such a small market. it feels annoying that they are getting into these relationship styles i personally cant be apart of. i want someone to be mine and for me to be theirs
>>42112527yeah i can imagine, i was only rly ugly in middle school but then i became ig "cute"? thats how ppl describe me and dating isnt really so bad. i can get w the ppl im attracted to so im happy
>>42111261this is why i don’t really attempt to pursue a relationship post deteansition despite wanting to be loved and love someone badly. i’ve heard dating bi women gets rid of the internal resentment and enforcement of gender roles issues but i can’t speak from experience.
>>42112585yeah ive dated mostly bi/pan women and its way better than straight women. if u want to make sure theres even less of an exception of cishet norms just tell her ur nb or smth. u dont even rly need to use they/them
>>42112454>>42112495>high percentage of them>most of them act like thisproof? please cite your reasonable source or peer-reviewed paperi'm being obtuse but to me it's so useless to just point at stereotypes like this everyone collectively understandslike you could just cut the pretense and say that you hate this type of relationship in particular and will speak up when dating that you dislike it. but instead you get silly with the tape and run a label on all heterosexual relationships because you can't help yourself
>>42112616i mean i do view myself as above gender roles at this point so that wouldn’t entirely be a lie.
>>42111261muh gender roleswhat you're describing is just the way courtship works between humans and it's a result of biology. women have a lower libido on average and bear the higher reproductive burden, so they tend to be a lot pickier with mates than men. the burden is thus on men to attract a mate, and you do that by showing that you can provide for (pay for stuff) and protect (be nice, or physically defend) the woman. these patterns are a result of biology.these patterns are heightened because of historical patriarchy, but patriarchy will never completely go away and neither will gender roles for the simple reason that there are actual neurobiological differences between men and women. cishet dating is completely different because people usually date expecting to get married and probably have children down the line. in reality, both partners lose autonomy to one another in order to come together in a partnership.why would you expect dating to be the same among people who can actually reproduce vs people who can't (i.e. same sex or both on hormones)?
>>42112654maybe i relate less to most cishets because despite being cis and preferring women, i don’t want children so all this talk about “reproduction” doesn’t really strike a cord with me
>>42112687are you a cis man? idk how old you are but usually the desire to reproduce kicks in mid to late 20s. I personally feel like most people on some level want to reproduce since this is how we evolved.Also, regardless of whether you actually want kids evolutionary biology still affects you. (Cis) lesbian women are more picky with their partners than gay men or straight men despite there being no reproduction involved
>>42112654yeah it seems that cishets care way more about other factors then the person they are dating.
