qott: what can we do to destigmatize HSTS and AGP in the trans community?
>>42117272watch animation memes
>>42117272adopt better tranny typology based on reproducible hard science rather than the niche studies of a single sexologist who studied a handful of sex workers decades ago in cultural conditions that no longer exist
only HSTS are women!!!!!
>>42117272there's nothing you can do to destigmatize it. GC/TERFs strawman AGP as AGP = trooning for a fetish. many trans women believe this is basically the case and so refuse to identify with the label. And even if a TW understands what AGP actually is and understands she's an AGP, she wouldn't admit it because TERFs have turned it into a slur and u don't even want to be associated with the label. Even besides that, even if everyone had a perfect understanding of AGP trans women still wouldn't readily accept it because "I have an abnormal sexuality where I've internalized my attraction to women and it's causing gender dysphoria" is a lot less socially acceptable than muh born in the wrong body trope.>>42117334please explain your theory for why gender dysphoria develops and how it presents based on reproducible hard science. I've seen the "Identity-Defense model" but it's just as theoretical as Blanchard's typology. Also, AGP in trans women is a thing that's been proven to exist in laboratory conditions + it's obvious (how else do you explain euphoria boners?) and it also exists in cis men. The actual unfalsifiable/speculative part is whether the AGP causes the gender dysphoria or if it's the other way around
>>42117781Are terfs more ok with HSTS? I notice you haven't even really mentioned HSTS at all in your long essay it seems.
>>42117801That's because HSTS doesn't present the same issue. Most rando cishet people already think trans women are just super fags. castrated super fags in the bathroom with their wife is fine for most boomers, but female-attracted TW whose transition is a result of their underlying AGP seems a lot more threatening.Also, Blanchard doesn't do a great job explaining why HSTS even have the desire to transition in the first place in the way he does for AGPs (I don't even fully agree with the typology btw, the lines are a bit blurred between HSTS/AGP and there's variation within each group). Regardless, a male-attracted trans woman has an interest in not being referred to as a "homosexual" if she identifies as a womanat the end of the day though you can't accept HSTS without accepting AGP, and even for the husstuss they understand they're still associated with the AGPs (since they're both trans women), so they have just as much an interest in not acknowledging it. if AGP went mainstream it would blow back on the huss as well
>>42117830>Most rando cishet people already think trans women are just super fagsand they are wrong?
>>42117875Yes, the majority of trans women are heterosexual males, i.e. not fags. Trans women are like, 60% AGP these days and maybe 1/6 of that group is truly bisexual (the rest are either transbians or meta attracted to men but truly heterosexual), so at least half of trans women IMO are basically heterosexual males with AGP. This is from the reality perspectiveFrom the chud perspective the AGP stuff just sounds like cope / being a troon is very faggy no matter what, but it's still a big difference if you think the TW entering the locker room are all actual fags with no interest in women vs castrated heterosexual males with AGP
>>42117902>Yes, the majority of trans women are heterosexual malessounds like ideology, not hard dataseems like you are almost scared of acknowledging men attracted to the same sex transition
>>42117902>castrated heterosexual males with AGPBut chuds also seem to think castration = complete end to sexual function (it's not, but that's not the point), so why do they care if post-SRS trans women use female locker rooms?
>>42117911>castration doesn't diminish your sexual function it just makes you happy
>>42117830Doesn't it ultimately boil down to HSTS = lifelong severely low T and AGP = everything else?
>>42117904https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s12889-023-16654-zLet's consult the chart: among transgender women, 60.5% identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, same-gender loving, or pansexual, i.e. among TW 60% were female-attracted which is actually exactly the number I said. In this version of the article (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37715161/) the figure reports that 68% of TW are attracted to cis women, sample size is n=~100 of TW I think.I can't find any other studies but I feel like this is fairly good support for my assertion that 60% of TW are female-attracted.
>>42117911>>42117915The average chud doesn't think beyond man in woman's locker room or man in woman's sports team. Among conservatives with higher-than-average knowledge of trans issues, most of them likely know from the GC propagandists that most TW don't get SRS these days>>42117940No, there's no correlation between T levels and being homosexual.
>>42117950queer tells you nothing about whether they like men or women and that's 15 whole percent of your data"same gender loving"dittosince what gay and lesbian mean to trannies are different from the rest of the world, this data is useless
>>42117950>a single small study that aligns with my ideology must be right lol
