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>>42120165
>Cis women hate men.

Meanwhile, a man is trying to kill a woman every 10 seconds worldwide.
Meanwhile, men masturbate to videos of women getting beheaded.
Meanwhile, men treated women like shit across most cultures for 99% of history.

But by all MEANS please men like you should date each other. Go ahead and date another male and have happy dick in ass sex all day long.
I wish you well.

>>42120172
>If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole.
Men-hating women would do well to examine themselves.

>>42120165
Post height

>>42120182
I FULLY support males who don't like women to have sex or dates with other males. Please remove yourself from and around women and leave us alone. I bless you and your future.

>>42120165
1. just look at this board, 99% of trannies are fucking insane, its better to be with a man hating feminist cis woman than any of the absolute trainwrecks that make up the overwhelming majority of transwomen
2. trans women try to imitate cis women as hard as they can though so they often end up absorbing their misandry all the same.

>>42120203
But you refuse to leave males alone. Every time males build something for themselves, you screech "sexism!" and demand to be allowed in, whether it's gay bars, Men in Sheds, or the C-suite. Females poison every male space they touch. Females cannot stand males having a space of their own.

>>42120165
I hate men but are unfortunately also very attracted to them

>>42120228
Go be a pooner's problem instead.

>>42120216
Nah, the average "male only" space does just fine. The amount of % women who insist going into gay bars or male sheds is minuscule. And by your own logic men don't leave women alone, example transwomen who insist they are women instead of being just a different type of man, which biologically is actually more true.

>>42120241
Feminism: "You have to let us in but we don't have to let you in"
Postmenopausalwomen aren't women either, their reproductive function is nil.

>>42120250
>Feminism: "You have to let us in but we don't have to let you in"
But we do? Grown adult males are allowed to enter female spaces by just saying "I feel like a woman!" so you are making no fucking sense lmao

trans women are men who hope loudly hating on other men as predators will ingratiate themselves with females, who are similarly man-hating

>>42120172
>male sexuality bad!
women definitely don't come up with the most fucked up stories imaginable and not only cum to it but pretend it's romantic, huh?
not read yaoi much, have you? lots of murder and rape in that. but oh, no, i guess that's because of 'trauma' and 'internalised misogyny'. but you'd never give that kind of charity , would you?
>men are murderers!
it's so boring hearing the same talking point. it's such a minority of men doing this shit it's a joke.
>patriarchy! oppression!
just wrong. both men and women have been oppressed by their gender roles throughout history. it's actually not fun dying in war, or being killed by some animal while you're gathering food for your tribe, or getting lung cancer from working in the mines, or being denied emotional expression and then shooting yourself in the head.
women have always reinforced these things, just as men have too. gender arises from economics, that's it. it's for society, not for men, and never has been.
i wish you people would grow up rather than blaming an Other for all your problems. it results in zero capacity for empathy. it makes you a bad person.

>>42120165
Women love men. Youre just short.

>>42120273
that's not love, that's objectification. heterosexuality is so sad.

>>42120270
Females believe that their feelings and "trauma" (from their dads yelling at them for dressing like whores) matter more than men's lives

>>42120286
Cis women see men as walking wallets

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>>42120270
>women definitely don't come up with the most fucked up stories imaginable and not only cum to it but pretend it's romantic, huh?
No amount of "7 feet blue monster fucks me because I am special" compares to the amount of pedophilia and jerking off to dead women shit men do. Women degenerates 99% can't measure up to male degenerates.
>it's so boring hearing the same talking point. it's such a minority of men doing this shit it's a joke.
Almost all women experienced violence or harassment/dangerous situations with men at some point in their life. It's not a minority. The most dangerous person statistically to a pregnant woman is her own partner.
>both men and women have been oppressed by their gender roles throughout history.
Yes and women have been oppressed even more than men. Life sucked for everyone and it sucked even more for women.

I am not blaming men for anything. I am just pointing out how insane the statement is that "women hate men" while ignoring that if we looked at logically then men hated women even more, based on how they treated women for 99% of history. Men literally considered women to be braindead, lower-soul animals.

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>>42120309
why are we pretending that gay male relationships aren't shit and shallow most of the time

>visit /tttt/
>see what terfs write about amabs
>become redpilled
>understand now that afabs are psychopaths

>>42120331
>visit 4chan
>see countless posts of moids celebrating when women die
>post gore of women, stalk women, wish death on women because they don't have sex with them
>this is totally fine
>sees TERF say "transwomen are mentally ill men and need to fuck off"
>HOLY FUCK HOLD MY BEER THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS WOMEN ARE EVIL

moid moment

>>42120369
Typical illiterate female. /tttt/ is one board, not all of 4chan.

>>42120380
And? I never said otherwise. But odds are that if you visit ONE board you also have seen or went to other boards, unless you're a complete bubble-wrapped newfag who is afraid to look at anything but this specific board.

>>42120406
Typical female, making accusations without proof against males.

Not reading or engaging in the retarded TERF shit.

Outside of 'the dolls' and the few who actually like topping guys, there's extremely few androphilic trans women. The few who would have sex with a man are simply cocksexual - they can and will drop even the best of guys for the absolute worst transbians the moment they get the chance. I have always been bothered by injustices in the world and never felt like I cared to have biokids and would honestly prefer to adopt, so trans women were just as 'viable' to me in theory, but I have met literally only ONE genuine androphile trans woman who wasn't a schizoid christfag racist or addicted to ketamine and clubbing.

Females:
>control reproduction and childrearing since before antiquity, selecting for males to be the way they are today
Also females:
>complain about males being the way they are today

>>42120446
Honestly you have to look for the intershit ones. They typically just want a normal life and a man to love and be loved by.

>>42120447
> selecting for males to be the way they are today
Women didn't select for shit most of history. Just look at oppressive shitholes today. You think women select in Afghanistan? The fathers and brothers decide who you marry. Disagree? You get exiled, killed or hit. It was always like that in most places.

>>42120457
Females are reaping what their ancestral mothers sowed. This goes back to pre-humanity. Females select which male to mate with.

>>42120468
A lot of female animals are simply raped as most male animals are stronger in mammal species.

>>42120451
They're also fairly normie, though. I am unfortunately only attracted to decently eccentric people, and any trans woman who meets that is invariably t4t exclusive or fakes interest in men for money/attention.

>>42120477
Males get eaten by their mates, and that's just so traumatic for females.

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>>42120165
Most trannies are straight men too and prefer women lol

>>42120491
Nah, most trannies irl are bi or into men. But those aren't the obnoxious online trannies. If you're on twitter or reddit, the most prevalent trannies in those spaces are transbians. If you go to queer spaces irl or on dating apps you'll find most being bi or straight

terfs should just go get phallo if they're truly incapable of not provoking men

>>42120516
Bi means 90% into feminine partners.

>>42120172
lmao thanks for convincing the trannies they should also avoid women. really bringing us closer to our no-female utopia.

>>42120516
Bi tranny
>Attracted to women
Transbian tranny
>Attracted to women

Where's these androphilic trannies then? I could count the number of trans women I've met who only date men on 1 hand.

>>42120516
>If you go to queer spaces irl or on dating apps you'll find most being bi or straight
I tried a bunch of dating apps including Taimi and even chatting with girls on Grindr. They are like 80% t4t exclusive. The few that list themselves as bi always call themselves 'bi lesbians' which is just code for being into st4t or being willing to hookup with but not actually date men.

>>42120491
damn bith on the right got currrrves

>>42120518
Also not really. Most of them don't even date cis women. The reason is not attraction, it's fear. They are afraid of cis men for being treated as a fetish or worse, hatecrimed, and afraid of cis women because of dysphoria.

Most bi trannies are attracted to men, they just are afraid to actually meet anyone other than other trannies

>>42120549
lol
Agpoids date men until they feel comfortable with going mask off and fucking ftm and cis women

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>>42120562
>>42120549
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7WvHTl_Q7I

"I LOVED THE IDEA OF DATING A MAN... AND HE WAS PERFECt... MY DASHING PRINCE... B... BUT IM A LESBIAN I REALIZE NOW!"

>>42120534
yeah, troons only pretend to be i to men when they want to hide from accusations of being agp fetishists or when they want to appear extra uwu feminine online.
generally speaking androphilic trannies do not exist outside from a handful of exceptations that prove the rule.
it makes sense too, if you hate your own male body enough that you go under hormones and surgical treatment to change it, chances are you dislike male bodies in genreral, not just on yourself.

>>42120579
You can spot the trannies to avoid, because they'll talk about men as fictional fantasy characters that they expect to boost their ego and make them feel enthralled by their womanhood, being able to fetch Prince Charming. Avoid.

>>42120587
Correct. Dysphoria = agp.

>>42120562
Good thing that most trannies are hsts :)

>men are on average stronger than women
>men supposedly have had all the power throughout history
>ergo womens rights were literally only feasible if men actually listened to their points and felt empathetic enough to fix the issues presented
>women are now on relatively the same playing field as men (financial independence, access to positions of power, modern society negating strength as valuable and guns exist if it becomes valuable again)
>mens issues have not improved at all
history has proven men are objectively the more empathetic of the binary genders. people will point to the fact rape and murdering women are still a thing while ignoring the fact that the very structure of all feminist talking points exists on a foundation of 'men control everything' and as such they were the ones to actively reduce and illegalize those things.

>>42120596
But that's the way cis women talk about men.

>>42120534
Maybe try straight dating apps and not grindr or taimi?
On tinder and bumble there are so many hetero trannies. Just pretend like you don't clock them, they often believe to be "stealth" lol

>>42120596
but thats how cis women view men too.

>>42120601
Feminism now is upper middle class women complaining that they are expected to put in almost as much work as male peers if they want further promotions or raises.

>>42120600
>good thing most horses are unicorns

>>42120603
Absolutely untrue and a horny woman who wants to fuck you will let you know that women are not AGP. I've had women grab my dick, grab my ass, and these were real women not nerdy autistic boys trying to mimic women..

>>42120609
You guys are woefully inexperienced with women here

>>42120622
If women are physically androphilic in the same way men are physically gynophilic, why is there no porn for women? they only read "romantic novels" featuring serial killer billionaire vampires and the sex scenes are all about how the woman feels about herself, the man is a mere accessory.
ive never read anything but cope and denial in response to this question by the way. the worst was when someome tried to "disprove" me with a heterosexual doujin written and drawn by a woman. you could barely see the man in any of the sex scenes lmao.

>>42120620
I don't get how people think finding hsts trannies is hard. Like if you want to find a hetero tranny to fuck you can find another one every week.

Saying most trannies are lesbian is just pure cope. Just don't look on twitter and reddit. Download tinder and you'll find so many

>>42120549
>Most bi trannies are attracted to men, they just are afraid to actually meet anyone other than other trannies
This is 100000% cope. A guy can make himself as placid and approachable and 'safe' as possible and it will never be enough, if not outright give women 'the ick'. Dated someone for 5 years where I guided them through their PTSD from sexual assault - to the point they explicitly told me I was the only person they felt remotely safe to feel sexual around - and they still ultimately treated and viewed me as someone who could potentially hatecrime them, up to actively trying to sabotage my next relationship well after we had broken up but tried to remain good friends.

>>42120562
>>42120587
>>42120596
These are all way more accurate. Trans women only date transbians out of feelings of inferiority towards cis women or just like dick but prefer femininity.

>>42120608
Where I live is very progressive so trans women don't feel the need to 'go stealth' as much. Pretty much every transgirl on tinder and bumble was """bi""" with a very obvious preference for women, assuming I could even see any that had any real personality. Dating apps are all in all a complete hellhole and the kind of woman I would actually want to spend my life with, if she even exists, I've had to accept just isn't on that shit.

>>42120653
the "heterosexual" trannies you find are literally just meta attracted autogynephiles.

All the anons going "there's LOADS of straight trannies!" all actively ignoring the point that most of them are just as normie as the average cis woman and any guy posting on /tttt/ is far too autistic to actually want to date someone that devoid of sovl. And before anyone says shit, the average guy is also incredibly normie and hollow but I don't want to date them so I don't care.

>>42120676
this tbqhonky, also wya anon

>>42120646
You have to experience female attraction to get it. You guys using your nerdy online male terms like androphilic and gynophilic- have you ever had a woman chase you for sex? Have you ever had a woman put her hands on you in a lustful way when you weren't expecting it or asking for it? I think a lot of you have gotten your entire knowledge about women through the internet.

>>42120670
Meta attraction doesn't exist. What people on this board call meta attraction is just female sexuality. Just talk to a women about her sexuality or read a single smutt novel written by a hetero sexual women it's full of what people call meta attraction.

Trannies are into men not because meta attraction but just because regular attraction.
Just touch grass and go outside and meet some real people

>>42120676
Real. It's not like I tried to date them, only to find out they'd already fucked tons of randoms and were already STD+. Just normie thangs.

>>42120676
It's not about dating, it's about fucking a dick girl

>>42120717
>it's full of what people call meta attraction.

Uh, no? The men are genuinely attractive in most smut. Taller, assertive, smooth skin, good bone structure, full hair, muscular. And the women lust after their bodies and how handsome they are.

>>42120717
desu contra explains in this video >>42120579 how meta attraction is 100% real she tried to date men cause she loved the IDEA of being in a relationship with a tall, strong guy and society calling her a valid woman instead of a lesbian freak but it ultimately didn't really fulfill hero r turn her on and she broke up with him to pursue women

>>42120717
Women have a varied sexuality ime. They are just as carnal as men, just as physical as men when they're presented with a man who turns them on visually. The average 20 year old isn't reading romance novels, that's like what my mom does.

>>42120733
He's a straight man. If straight men were subtracted from T, the community would go back to being what it used to be: gay males with a natural physical response to males. The AGP trend needs to die out imo. Finding nonsensical ways to cope with being a straight man on hrt isn't good for anyone, especially LGBT and it's public image.

>>42120765
Straight man who had sex with men and dated men for years.

>>42120765
The majority of transsexuals have always been AGP. Most of Harry Benjamin's "type 6 (true transsexual)" patients were AGP. "Married with children, can only have sex using fantasies" Ring any bells?

>>42120774
It happens. Conversely, some gay men go so far as to date and marry women until they cannot keep living a lie and start having sex with men. Your sexuality is hardwired in your brain, like your preference for certain kinds of food. AGP are straight men.

>>42120712
right, as expexted ypur response is just cope and denial and "i know a guy" tier anecdotes. you are completely unwilling to address observable reality at a societal scale because you have no answer to it.

>>42120788
It doesn't belong here imo. Having a fetish for women is an offshoot of male heterosexuality, and doesn't need protection.

>>42120817
And yet they're the ones who made it all happen.

>>42120815
Women are not AGP because you've utterly failed to arouse them sexually. I was a swimmer in college and had random women approach me for sex because they liked my body. I assume your experience was different, and that you've convinced yourself that reading studies online has given you entry into understanding women. Lmao this place is full of autism.

>>42120828
Well no, AGP trannies were mostly closeted, some like Dennis Radar were serial killers, until fairly recently. I don't believe that LGBT was founded by AGP straight men sorry

Literally every study shows that the only group with significant androphilia is gay men. Even more attraction than any group has towards women. So, if you as a guy ever hope to feel wanted, your best option is to fuck men. If you want that level of attraction in a woman the best bet then would be a gay twink that transitioned. Problem is, since in all of the first world, gay rights have become much more common, they never feel the need to troon out ala the blanchard HSTS typology.

>>42120704
Midwest.

>>42120717
If you don't think meta attraction exists you are fundamentally clueless on both history and human psychology.

>>42120720
Tinder hookup culture IS normie culture, so yes, just normie thangs.

>>42120726
Quick, noncommittal sex is the most streamlined form of human interaction today, and if I wanted that at all I would never have touched this place.

Women's sexuality is very context based and studies have shown even straight cis women are in function bi and only prefer men based on the role they play in their lives. Women will fall for a guy who they used to find repulsive because they were around him a bunch and realized they were attracted to how he acted or what roles he filled. Modern society has just made it so everyone is surface level and quick to abandon ship, while also downplaying the value every role men have typically played to a point of near pointlessness while simultaneously inventing new forms of escapism and mass psychosis that sets insane, unobtainable standards. People obsessed with their anime waifu who they envisioned as live in maids/sex slaves/emotional punching bags used to be ridiculed by the masses, and rightfully so, the state of the world right now makes it so women can act like that to a much more schizophrenic degree and without any of the social ostracization.

>>42120840
your injured ego is certainly lashing out loudly for everyone to see, but dont think you are distracting anyone from your inability to answer a question because it makes you uncomfortable. trying to socially shame people on an anonymous imageboard is extremely insecure and weak, bro.

>>42120853
They were the ones with money to pay for doctors and surgeries, accumulater from successful lives and careers as heterosexual men. They weren't the homeless gay kids turning tricks to survive.

>>42120860
>Women's sexuality is very context based and studies have shown even straight cis women are in function bi and only prefer men based on the role they play in their lives. Women will fall for a guy who they used to find repulsive because they were around him a bunch and realized they were attracted to how he acted or what roles he filled. Modern society has just made it so everyone is surface level and quick to abandon ship, while also downplaying the value every role men have typically played to a point of near pointlessness while simultaneously inventing new forms of escapism and mass psychosis that sets insane, unobtainable standards. People obsessed with their anime waifu who they envisioned as live in maids/sex slaves/emotional punching bags used to be ridiculed by the masses, and rightfully so, the state of the world right now makes it so women can act like that to a much more schizophrenic degree and without any of the social ostracization.
Shame you're not in Europe.

>>42120165
>cis women hate men.
No they don't.
>Androphilic trans women love men.
It means they're attracted to men, which is not the same thing.
>Just knock up but don't marry some whore if you want a bio kid, then get back to the woman (trans) who actually cares for you.
anyone that speaks this way has no business making blanket statements on love.
>>42120172
>Meanwhile, a man is trying to kill a woman every 10 seconds worldwide.
Not most men.
>Meanwhile, men masturbate to videos of women getting beheaded.
Not most men.
>Meanwhile, men treated women like shit across most cultures for 99% of history.
Don't speak on contemporary assumptions of what history was like with no actual literature to base this belief on. Women had their roles in society same as men, often these positions were marginalized and sometimes moreso than men and only some of the reasons for this were malevolent.

>>42120165
Estrogen gives everyone meta attraction. Gay men are only attracted to men like they are because of testosterone. This is why some ftms who used to be lesbians, suddenly want to fuck men.

>>42120733
Imagine thinking contrapoints being a good representation of the average trans women lel

>>42120270
>stories imaginable
Fixtional stories vs having telegram group chats where you invite men to rape your wife or where you post porn of your little innocent daughter

Almost like these things are not the same

>>42120477
>most male animals are stronger
you have a magical ability of "pick up the stone and hit male with the stone" which most animals do not have.

>>42120920
I mean yeah you just rape and touch kids on the open and the police apologizes for arresting you
Happened lately in the UK

>>42120943
Females are so useless that they need to bribe males with sex to do that for them, because they don't know how to do it themselves

>>42120899
This is true but also as an aside, FTMs on T are the smoking gun that proves that most of the things people criticize men for are byproducts of T and that the only reason things aren't significantly worse is through strength of character. The amount of FTMs who are serial rapists is actually absurd and its abundantly clear it's because they have male horniness via T without any of the instilled restraint society tries to instill in someone raised as a man.

>>42120885
Europe has seemed like a complete coin toss. The trans woman I met who was most guilty of viewing men as a metric to validate their own femininity was from there, but so was the only one I met who felt like I could talk about autistic esoteric shit with.

>>42120889
>Not most men.
Most women experienced abuse, violence by someone who can overpower them, threats, stalking or harassment from a man in some point of their life. It's extremely common.

>>42120528
I would rather live in all female society as a slave than spent any minute is some all male shithole

>>42120972
Most women shouldn't have run their mouths and hit men then hid behind "You're not allowed to hit a woman!"

>>42120977
>tonight's episode: the writer's barely-disguised fetish

>>42120972
>Most women experienced abuse, violence by someone who can overpower them, threats, stalking or harassment from a man in some point of their life. It's extremely common.
Most did not, in fact, experience that
The criteria are watered down to the point that when they're applied to men like 2/3rds-3/4ths of the female percentage of "victimized women" is male percentage of "victimized men"

>>42120952
>Europe has seemed like a complete coin toss.
Oh yeah sure, I was being salty that you're not within hanging out distance, since it's refreshing to see someone have sane opinions about the fun topics

>>42120998
wrongly copied that, i meant harassment overall
>b-but women cannot harass its impossible
lol no get fucked
I am genuinely happy your retarded feminism sided with christniggery so that it'll get completely eroded in a couple years' time, genius move there

>>42120978
I don't run my mouth to men in public. I just existed and got sexually harassed or followed and stalked.

>>42120998
>Most did not, in fact, experience that
Yeah absolutely they do. You're a moid so you don't know, but just taking the fucking SUBWAY as a teenager with my friends (all women) we would run into creepy men or weird situations at least once a year but often a lot more than that. Even my older female relatives like mom or aunt had stalkers at work or men getting butthurt when their sexual or romantic interest wasn't returned.

>>42121016
Gonna be hella funny when terfs are stuck barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen while trannies are free to do as they please on account of being male

>>42121025
Why would that happen?

>>42120646
>why is there no porn
About half of pornhub viewers are female and they prefer lesbian porn. Its the fault of men for forcing women marry them in the past and breed women that are basically lesbians. Men reap what they sow. All androphilic women were killed for being whores.

>>42121027
MAGA and Christianity

99% of people (both men and women) do not feel scared when they take a walk at night and a woman walks behind them or is out too. Becaue people know the odds that a woman will sexually assault you or rob you violently are tiny.

Most people (EVEN OTHER MEN) will look twice if they see a man at night in a dark alley or remote place, if it's just you and him. Literally tells you everything you need to know.

>>42120653
>want to find a hetero tranny
Who wants to fins a androphilic tranny when 30% of them have hiv

>>42121018
>dress like a whore
>receive male attention
>get butthurt about it
Funny how my cis female friends who dressed plainly never experienced that

>>42121055
I never dressed like a "whore". I would wear baggy stuff. But the way you dress is pretty irrelevant, just look at shitholes where women have to dress modestly and they literally get raped and attacked/followed covered head to toe.

>Funny how my cis female friends who dressed plainly never experienced that
"My female cisfriends have NEVER been stalked, physically or sexually harassed by men ever!"

Yeah sure bud.

>>42121055
1 in 5 female CHILDREN experienced sexual violence from men. And that's the public number, the true numbers are probably a lot higher considering that much of it won't even be reported due to shame and trauma. Wanna tell me next how kids dress slutty? Retard.

>>42121084
Females will dress in sexualized outfits and deny it. They know what they're doing.

>>42120717
>Meta attraction doesn't exist. What people on this board call meta attraction is just female sexuality
Meta attraction is not real attraction. Hetero females are more turned on by lesbian sex than a male body. Male body is about as sexy to them as are bonobos having sex.
Here you can find multiple studies listed that prove it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/WomenAreNotIntoMen/s/gr0VYIo3xR

>>42120860
>Muh studies
Get a life you freak

>>42121107
>women in india get raped all the time despite being covered from head to toe

>>42121104
Mothers literally enter their daughters in child pageants. Of course they're teaching them to wear provocative outfits.

>>42121115
>Male body is about as sexy to them as are bonobos having sex.
None of this shit is true. The AVERAGE male body isn't sexy to most women, but beautiful men make women fucking go rabid and foam at the mouth. Most female smut in visual form focuses on the male form during sex too. His height, his muscles, his hands, his skin.

But the % of beautiful men is just very low.

>>42121125
The average child assault victim is just at home wearing normal clothes getting raped by the father, uncle, brother or female friend.

>>42121139
Because most men put in zero effort.

>>42120860
>If you want that level of attraction in a woman the best bet then would be a gay twink that transitioned
Nope, the best bet would be woman on testosterone. Its all about hormones.

>>42121149
True. But some of it is also genetics, like your bone structure and height.

>>42121125
>>42121144
*family friend

Not female friend.

>>42121162
No, you were right the first time. Females have a thing for sexually assaulting male children. It's a way of getting "revenge" against males by targeting someone who can't fight back.

>>42121191
Women assault children sexually too, just at much lower rates than men.

The more foids screech, the less I care. Raise your sons to be better instead of abusing them because you hate men.

>>42121160
Byatch there are lots of things you can't control but the amount of food you consume and your general style are not on that list. Most men do not put ANY amount of effort into their looks.

>>42120952
>The amount of FTMs who are serial rapists is actually absurd and its abundantly clear it's because they have male horniness via T without any of the instilled restraint society tries to instill in someone raised as a man
This is not true at all. Ftms are the least likely group to do any crimes, including rape and they are most likely to be victims of rape. Cis men rape because they are sociallzed to rape and also because they have a penis that they can insert into people. Permabottoms like ftms have very little reason to rape as their sexuality needs someone to put penis inside them

Females hate men so much that they will mass murder unborn boys.
https://slate.com/technology/2024/05/ivf-daughters-toxic-masculinity-sex-selection.html

>>42121139
Look at the studies and accept the truth. Your opinion is pathetic and cucked. Only gay cis males and gaydens on t enjoy male body

>>42121048
This is true, it's just that a growing subset of people have black mold growing in their homes or something and have developed an impossible to overcome sense of paranoia that cannot be dispelled even after being around a very normal guy in both public and private spaces for significant periods of time and still viewing him as someone who will inevitably try to cave in their skull in and rape them. Men actually seem more predisposed towards paranoia and manage to have that problem even less, so it's absolutely a problem with the social zeitgeist.

>>42121116
>>Muh studies
>Get a life you freak
In the past being someone who has and uses their brain was a virtue but the powers that be have managed to make people unironically act like thinking is a bad thing.

>>42121139
None of that is actually a real counterpoint to the other anons shit. There's overwhelming evidence that men rate women significantly higher in terms of attractiveness than women rate men. Male 'beauty' is also in many instances just evoking feminine beauty, 'peak masculinity' like absolutely roided out freaks has only ever been valued by gay men traditionally.

>>42121157
Women on T will slowly morph into looking like Guy Fieri, and I don't want to fuck that, but they'll also be more predisposed to sexually assaulting you, and less capable of being convicted of it.

>>42121196
Even in most of the western world the definition of rape only accommodates 'forced penetration' and as such all statistics are inherently biased and inaccurate because it's categorically impossible for a man to be raped except by another person with a dick. The rates are probably still skewed more towards men but the difference is grossly exaugurated due to terrible metrics and retarded propaganda such as;
>42121223
>Cis men rape because they are socialized to rape

>>42121256
>Look at the studies.

I am looking instead of what is selling and popular with women and it does focus on the man having a hot body and being attractive :)

>>42121257
>None of that is actually a real counterpoint to the other anons shit.
Yes, it is? Because if male bodies not being sexy was true why are male bodies and how sexy they are also a focus in female erotica 99% of the time?

>>42121207
I rather just abort males. Easy and simple
>>42121241
Based

>>42121280
>it's bad when men assault women
>it's good when women murder men

>>42121257
>predisposed to sexually assaulting you
They are not likely to assault anyone. They are in bigger risk than anyone else to be assaulted themselves. There are multiple studies about it if you just use google

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I think the vast majority of men are unattractive. Average bodies, all that. But the 1% of the male form that peaks is absolutely delicious. It blows out of the water any female body by 1000x. So this idea that women don't find "male bodies" attractive is delusional cope by moids.

You can say women are retarded or high standards maybe. But female erotica, visual or novels or even games that sell extremely well absolutely showcase and focus on the man having a delicious physique.

>>42121304
Unborn fetuses are not humans.

>>42121324
A fetus is a human life, murderer.

>>42121257
>Even in most of the western world the definition of rape only accommodates 'forced penetration'
No? Lmfao. Child sexual assault includes oral, touching, anything. They don't just count "PIV rape" into most statistics.

>>42121339
The semen cells in the male balls that he shoots out to coom to porn are alive too. Men kill far more baby cells than women through porn addiction, murderer.

>>42121323
>women don't find "male bodies" attractive is delusional cope by moids.
They literally have done studies where they measure attraction and arousal. Women prefer other women..look at what is the most popular porn for females (lesbian)

>>42121351
A sperm cell is not a human life. Wrong number of chromosomes.

>>42121353
Yeah and what did your studies show them? The games and mangas/porn that sell the most to women worldwide absolutely include male bodies being sexy and showcase their muscles, height, hands. They are not "lesbo" games. If that was true, why is that the case?

>>42121351
People literally "kill" millions of embryos in ivf processes but nobody gives a shit cause anti abortion is about controlling women

>>42121365
A sperm cell is already alive. Men are murdering their human life cells.

>>42121353
I don't watch lesbian porn because I prefer female bodies but lesbian porn is actually very sensual and focuses on long kissing and soft touches. 99% of moid porn is not like that. To find the right moid porn that has gentle, sweet and wet kissing with mutual pleasure and softness is a pain in the ass when you can just type in lesbo porn and immediately get it.

>>42121369
I'm a woman that reads yaoi, I don't wank to that. Its just fun stories
Also if you go see any game modding scene its literally all women learning how to make their female avatar more cute and sexy

>>42121375
The only way to save any sperm is for females to allow males to attempt to impregnate them constantly. Otherwise every sperm will inevitably leave males' bodies and die, even if only through involuntary nocturnal emissions. Likewise, every ovulation that does not result in pregnancy is murder.
Well done, foid. You played yourself.

>>42121397
Ah and because women "don't find male bodies arousing" is that why on gay porn sites 47%~ of the viewership are women?

>>42121403
Nope, if you fap more you produce more sperm that wouldn't have produced and died otherwise. So all men who jerk off for pleasure and watch porn are murderers. Case closed.

>>42121385
Imagine a heteto moid saying that he prefers gay porn cause how the men enjoy themselves there and male orgasm... Girl...
There are gay men who watch hetero porn but they are just coping and would be more turned on by gay porn

>>42121412
Lesbian porn is even more popular for women

>>42121417
Better open your legs then, foid, if you care so much about the poor little sperm.

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>>42121421
I didn't say I am heterosexual. I acknowledge that a lot of women are somewhat bisexual, but at the end of the day most of us prefer an ideal man over an ideal woman. This is extremely clear in fantasy where everything is possible and even proud lesbian can't stop schlicking to Astarion and other male idealized characters.

>>42121437
Yes and I just explained why. Women in studies also got aroused by chimpanzees having sex. Situations and vibes can turn us on. But if women didn't like "male bodies" then they wouldn't watch so much GAY MALE PORN.

>>42121274
The core of it is simply that when it comes to attraction to women, the average receives far more attention and desire than exists attraction and desire for the average man. Guys have been valued as romantic partners for what they provide OUTSIDE of looks, but now those things don't, and being a tall, toned, handsome guy takes a shit ton of effort (much more of it being physical exertion than women typically need to achieve their 'idealized' looks) as well as a ton of luck, especially given shit like baldness. We've had decades of effort put into addressing unrealistic standards towards women but 0 effort put in towards addressing unrealistic standards towards men and that hinges on a much lower sense of legitimate attraction towards men.

>>42121312
I was around a ton of FTMs and sexual assault was rampant amongst them, including towards me. If I was a woman I would've been able to take them to court for rape but ultimately I don't care enough to even try. Call it anecdotal but I really can't be convinced otherwise.

>>42121417
>So all men who jerk off for pleasure and watch porn are murderers
hot
misandrists make men seem hotter than they could ever be in reality

>>42121464
Women just need to not pig out and to use makeup

>>42120207
TRVTH NVKE
troons are the biggest misandrists of all

No tranny has ever cut off another person's dick without permission

>>42120972
>Most women experienced abuse, violence by someone who can overpower them, threats, stalking or harassment from a man in some point of their life. It's extremely common.
this does not invalidate my claim.

>>42121464
>was around a ton of FTMs and sexual assault was rampant amongst them, including towards me
Yet your experiences do not reflect to larger population. Its like every trans person has apparently been raped by a hon but thats not something thats really a thing.

You see, men? Foids will never shut up. They will blame you personally for the actions of other men. They want you to be castrated, effectively. They want you to be their slave and give them an upper class life while they lift not a finger.

Alternatively you could fuck a tranny and play vidya with her afterward.

>>42121497
That means a big chunk of men at some point contribute to the harassment of women in some form or another.

>>42121516
I hate men, everything about them sucks.
>t.male woman

>>42120518
Yep "bisexual" for trannies means they like women and "men" who look like women

>>42121516
>Alternatively you could fuck a tranny and play vidya with her afterward.
Id rather kiss a girl and talk shit about moids

>>42121545
Thats cause they have female sexuality (gynephilia) :3 *slurps*

>>42121551
You're a moid

Only males can truly love males...

>>42121565
Nah uh, I'm a woman

>>42121516
I tried to commit social castration to make myself appealing to the 'woke' women I was surrounded by, cis and trans, and it made no difference at all. But posts like this are a larp because even trying to date autistic hikkineet trans women has just led to them deciding with 0 reasoning I was going to try to try to abuse them, and using that as justification to go cheat on me with an actually abusive pedophile transbian. It's just a very low effort means of farming attention of any kind, preying on the fact men have pathetically low standards.

>>42121574
>Only *gay males can love males
Enjoy your hiv

>>42121580
Try intershit trannies instead of agp

>>42121574
Why are gay marriages so slutty and open so much then? I see two cute, old gays say they are married for 20 years and I'm like WOW LOVE IS REAL then they casually add that they fuck others.

>>42121587
I'm clean, my husband is clean, we're both monogamous and loyal. Where is HIV going to come from?

>>42121592
You suggested this earlier but that's a tiny fraction of an already tiny fraction of people and there's no precedent for them being my type. I am cursed to be attracted to women with hobbies and interests that mean they will almost always be lesbians.

>>42121516
Need a cute trans girl to save from me cisfoid oppression… a princess in a hoodie to sweep me off my feet… I’ll be your knight, you’ll be my everything, against the World.

>>42121623
Troon out and date a lesbian then? Make terfs seethe as a bonus

>>42121593
Its because gay men understand that its the nature of a man to be a total whore. They like living together as buddies but they need fresh sex.
This would never work in hetero relationships cause men would be too insecure to share their girl with others

>>42121648
Hahah pathetic :D I could never love a moid

>>42120165
ciswomen are hot and have beautiful pussys and transwomen kind of aren't and don't (sorry)

>>42121713
I'm a trans woman with a cis gf and we both hate men

terfs:
>trannies have dicks! rape!
tranny:
>okey I'll get srs
terfs:
>nooooooo don't do that :'( we need to keep yelling about your dick :'((((((

>>42121669
Being valued purely on presumptions based on my immediate visual appraisal and not on the way I actually conduct myself would be more hellish than dating someone completely vapid and devoid of personality and I already refuse to do that. Realistically I would only be able of having a long term relationship with someone as pretentious and morally OCD as me and chooses their partners based off of autistic shit like that but I think the life experiences needed to develop those traits are fundamentally impossible to experience if someone is a cishet woman or genuinely androphilic trans woman. Maybe a bi woman could, but it would still be extremely unlikely.

>>42121752
I support srs troons 100%

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>>42121713
They know that. That's why trannies will have folders full of pics of cis women, and zero pics of trannies.

>>42121784
Maybe cause I see trans women as women you stupid stinky moid

>>42121818
I see them as my height, having a penis, and with the voice of a guy.

>>42121870
Low quality men attract low quality trannies

>>42121922
All cis women are low quality

>>42121922
High quality trannies exist from a physical standpoint I agree, but even then they have an anus and not a vagina. I could see exploring a bit as a kinky experiment to have anal sex, but that's not going to satisfy me in a relationship. I need a woman with a real functioning vagina for that. Trannies are by default sex toys to play around with, nothing more.