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Germany is so progressive that they will stop hondosing trannies next year! No more hrt for you! Every German tranny will be forced to diy or become an ugly German man.
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>>42130209
Can you translate what this says for us foreigners interested in the situation
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>>42130239
>Beginning 2026, gynecologists will stop prescribing HRT - this has been a recurring topic in trans support groups in recent weeks.
>When asked a Berlin practice explained that something had changed "within the system" so that HRT could no longer be billed.
>People who have been receiving treatment for years now have to find a new doctor within a very short time. And this is happening within a healthcare system where most doctors have waiting lists of at least six months or do not offer appointments for new patients at all.
Endocrinologists will still prescribe HRT, but the waiting lists are very long (in my city it's about a year) and in my experience endocrinologists in Germany hondose their patients even more than gynecologists do.
This feels like the first step to completely ban HRT desu.
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that's ok, you don't need hrt to be trans
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>>42130330
Because most German trannies genuinely believe this >>42130332
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>>42130209
Wasn't there just a euro rw tranny that said that Europe wasn't transphobic
And why are they doing this anyway
Can they even diy
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>>42130345
Theres nowhere to run
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>>42130312
I know it's not ideal, but how is one year "very long"? I'm from the UK and here we wait over five years if we can't access private care (minors usually do not have the opportunity to do so)
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>>42130209
okay this is bad but why the fuck are you blaming progressives like your country isnt about to vote in the nazi party
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>>42130379
It was obviously a joke anon
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>>42130345
The reason for this is socialism and control, not transphobia.
Similar fucked up things are happening to diabetics, patients with leukemia, patients with vaccine injury and all sorts of other chronical conditions.
It all boils down to KHVVG and DigiG - two "digitalization" bills that in fact gradually push a lot of fundamental changes in the way these things are covered by insurance (state AND private).

>Can they even diy

They can. But Germans are very conformist people. If it's not officially recommended, they WILL shy away from it.

t. not the euro rw tranny you're looking for, but a euro tranny nonetheless who speaks some g*rman and travels there often
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>>42130209
>>42130312
I was thinking of becoming an endo myself in another country. I might've gone to Germany but I heard it might elect AfD, and plus, there's all this stuff now about Russia sending saboteurs into Europe which seems pretty scary. I don't know where to go really.
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>>42130388
the post directly under you is talking about 'socialism and control'
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>>42130379
afd isn't writing these policies
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>>42130345
>the country that burned down the tranny library of alexandria actually loves trannies
I hope you didn't actually believe this anon.
>>42130378
>how is one year "very long"?
This is just the waiting time for an endocrinologist. You also have to get an appointment with a therapist before that (waiting time also about a year) so you can get your HRT treatment approved, which might take several sessions or if your therapist is weird about it might also take a few years. So it's more like 2 years minimum.
>>42130379
I was making a joke about how Americans always act like Germany is a socialist utopia.
>>42130405
Yeah I don't recommend going to Germany, it's extremely likely they will elect the AfD in the next election. Spain might still be a good option if you want to move to the EU.
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>>42130389
>They can. But Germans are very conformist people. If it's not officially recommended, they WILL shy away from it.
This is true. German culture is built on being a good obedient sheep. This is why the Nazis were so popular in Germany.
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>>42130415
The what?
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>>42130427
And it's also why mass immigration was legit popular during the time of Merkel.
And it's also why whatever shit AfD will come up with will be legit popular by 2030.

Americans really don't understand just how conformist g*rmans really are.
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>>42130407
Because it is.
g*rmany imposes a lot of control over the flow of medicine. Not just HRT, but anything. It's one of the most restrictive countries in the world when it comes to accessing medicine.

The logic is this: the government pays for it, therefore the government gets to control all of it.
How is that NOT socialism and control?
A lot of allocation of resources policies in the medical field are re-runs of the DDR policies, nona.
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>>42130414
>implying all the other German parties aren't basically the AfD too
The liberal and conservative parties in Germany have been doing the fascists work for them for years now, thinking that would stop the rise of the AfD. Just because a party calls itself "social democratic" or whatever doesn't mean they actually are, just like the NSDAP wasn't a socialist workers party.
>>42130434
The nazis burned down the "Institut für Sexualwissenschaft" the first chance they got. It had a huge collection of texts on trannies.
>>42130452
That has more to do with German culture than with socialism though.
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>>42130414
most of them were written by Karl Lauterbach (SPD/social democrats). Literally the progressives.
Yet on this board everyone wants to believe, Alex Jones-style, that it's AfD.
The right never had a say in any of these policies. The whole "digitalization" acts are overwhelmingly SPD-Green initiatives.
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>>42130465
>SPD
>progressive
lmao the SPD has been right wing since 1918.
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>>42130462
>That has more to do with German culture than with socialism though

g*rman collectivism is socialism.
This board is in reality-denial mode by insisting that politics is somehow not downstream from culture. But more often than not, it is.
There's a reason g*rmany, no matter what, ends up producing authoritarian collectivism. Lighter or harder, on a spectrum, sure, but authoritarian collectivism nonetheless. This predates the nazis too. It's just how g*rmans work.
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>>42130474
>lmao the SPD has been right wing since 1918.

Now that's delusional.
But hey, whatever floats your boat, nona.
Hopefully the g*rmans don't ration psychiatry as well. Because you sure sound like one who needs it.
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>>42130475
>g*rman collectivism is socialism.
I'm pretty sure that is not the definition of socialism. I agree with everything you're saying about Krauts but saying that they are socialist is like saying the Americans are a democracy and freedom loving nation.
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>>42130489
>Americans are a democracy and freedom loving nation.

Americans are self-evidently not a democracy. Their Constitution is explicitly about limiting democracy.
However, they are a freedom loving nation.

Nobody is so into absolute freedom of speech more than Americans.
They're just an extremist nation in all directions. When they adopt something, they go all in. No nuance, no limits. Sometimes that's a good thing (free speech, 4th amendment rights), sometimes that's a bad thing(see their CPS' behavior).
Nowhere but in America you can see shit like this - https://americanhumanist.org/press-releases/2015-11-massachusetts-pastafarian-wins-right-to-wear-a-colan/
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>>42130209
Ok so
1) gynecologists are not supposed to prescribe HRT. That is the job of endocrinologists
2) Yes there were changes in the system, but insurances are still expected to keep covering HRT for trans people
3) This might just be a small number of gynecologist practices, not HRT and insurance as a whole
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>>42130503
>However, they are a freedom loving nation.
Freedom for themselves, maybe. But there's no country that has established more dictatorships around the world in the last decades than the US.
>Nobody is so into absolute freedom of speech more than Americans.
I agree with that, but I feel like with Trump that is changing too. They seem to be moving towards the way the Germans handle it: sue anyone who dares to say even a single word about you.
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lol transneger labern dreck
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>>42130521
>it's fine guys they're just reducing the number of doctors who are allowed to prescribe HRT I'm sure this will not make anything worse
found the german
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>>42130530
>Freedom for themselves, maybe
Of course. The purpose of a nation is to make things good for its people.

>But there's no country that has established more dictatorships around the world in the last decades than the US
And? Two things can be true at once.
The Roman Empire was also more libertine at its core and more restrictive at its edges. Is basic statecraft when you're doing empire. And the US is an empire in everything but the official name.

>They seem to be moving towards the way the Germans handle it: sue anyone who dares to say even a single word about you
Americans have been lawsuit-happy since forever. That's why their law is so goddamn complicated. Because in addition to what the Congress says and what SCOTUS decides, there's hundreds of thousands (!) of pages of case-law and associated jurisprudence from every single courthouse on the land. Those pages didn't write themselves - it was Americans suing each other into oblivion over centuries.
The drumpf admin isn't doing something new. It's just you didn't read (or care) about it when the Obama admin was doing the same - suing into oblivion anyone who disagreed with them.
Like this case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Sisters_of_the_Poor_Saints_Peter_and_Paul_Home_v._Pennsylvania
Btw, that lawsuit still continues in 2025 - https://becketfund.org/media/breaking-federal-district-court-issues-nationwide-ruling-against-the-little-sisters-of-the-poor/ (it went on unimpeded no matter who was president)

Mania over lawsuits is an American trait. Not a republican or democrat one.
As I said, the US is an extremist nation. In all directions. For better AND for worse.
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Germans are little Nazis that will snitch on you if you cross the road when the light is red and no car is coming.
No wonder they go along with bullshit like this and hitler
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>>42130611
>Germans are little Nazis that will snitch on you if you cross the road when the light is red and no car is coming.
People who have never been to Germany might think this is anon is exaggerating but this actually happens in Germany. You can immediately identify a German tourist in another country because they will stand at a red light for literally half an hour even when there is no traffic.
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>>42130345
Europeans are spreading mass disinfo about their continent while at the same time passing draconian laws against their own people. As to why this has happened within the last ~8 years or so I have no fucking clue.
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>>42130407
>>42130209
You would think after 100 years of social fascist betrayal the people of Germany would have learned that Social Democrats are not to be trusted. But alas, the Germans are ecstatic to watch themselves get betrayed again and again.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8vFL0QWxugI
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As a Jew tranny this makes me happy. I wish the worst hell on every Germanoid.
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>>42130643
Be careful anon, the SPD might sue you for defamation for speaking about the truth. And in German law you can still get locked up for saying something about someone that is verifiably true.
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>>42130209

The dumb :innen thing in German never stops being funny to me. Like my guy why are you bringing colons into this.
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The final truke is Physicians are lazy retards that don't work.
>1 year long waitlist for an appointment
see what I mean? You want me to believe there are so many people seeking this one guy that he can't get a slot for anyone else any sooner? Fucking bullshit. The faggot is doing two appointments a day then calling it done to get his guberment wage.
I'm yet to see a single nationalized healthcare scheme that doesn't promote retarded inefficiency like this.
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>>42131088
Yes most doctors are lazy assholes but also there's billions of old people in Germany so endocrinologists are completely overrun with them.
>>42130951
>Let's make our shitty language that is difficult to learn more inclusive by adding random punctuation in the middle of our words and add even more rules!
German liberals are really the most retarded people on earth.
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>>42131088
they do this in privatized healthcare too lole
my country has 2+ year wait lists and we privatized our healthcare system long ago
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>>42130209
Don't worry at least you'll still get prescriptions for diluted magic sugar water paid by your insurance! German healthcare is the best in the entire world!
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>>42130951
this is an addition in languages that have gendered personal nouns, it's used in polish official documments as well
>pacjenta/ki
>obywatela/ki
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>>42131154
A slash actually makes sense though. I've seen Germans use colons, underscores, and asterisks before. They can't even agree on which one to use.
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>>42131169
it's a matter of personal preference when it comes to less official documents, for me underscores or slashes are the most readable but some people prefer to have more empty space between the versions, for which colons or asterisks are better
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>>42130312
>Why don't you have free healthcare like we do in GERMANY?
>HRT becomes practically impossible due to wait times, and government monopoly
You German troons get what you fucking deserve.
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>>42131295
But hey, at least Germany now has self-id, so all the theyfabs can now legally change their pronouns to xe/xim! I'm so glad all German "trans" activism focuses around cis people with pronouns!
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one more reason to hate Germans



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