why are they so obsessed with trying to look like the 1% of men? they idolize men with bone structure that 99% of men will never even get close to. i'm talking>strong jaw and chiseled features like a marble statue>very tall>hunter eyesi see it all the time on tiktok. why don't ftms and cis incels try to look like tom holland or michael cera or even josh radnor?
>>42132116>why does everyone wants to be beautifulyour answer lies in psychology and philosophyits no different from every tranny that desperately wants to be an obscenely beautiful woman
>>42132116probably because male beauty standards have never been this demanding before. it’s made worse by incel terminology going mainstream and now every moid thinks he has to be gigachad. ftms should focus on passing even if it means looking more like danny devito than some sculpted aryan demigod because that’s not attainable for most people.
>>42132161>its no different from every tranny that desperately wants to be an obscenely beautiful womani'm pretty sure most mtfs are content with just passing though
>>42132161op literally mentioned men who are very attractive without that archetype. frankly, lots of the guys most talked about in looksmaxxer communities are uncanny and not especially attractive to normal people outside of those communities. shit reminds me of when a dude says “which guy is more attractive” and malds when most women choose the less looksmaxxed guy
>>42132226>i'm pretty sure most mtfs are content with just passing thoughthis really only applies to older trannies ime, i think if youre any flavor of a zoomer thats grown up in a very online world and have some real exposure to genuine youngshits (pre puberty, early puberty hrt) this sentiment doesnt hold true at all, so, so many passoids that are just ugly or mid at best and spend all their time seething constantly about how theyre a manmoder gigahon>>42132260this all really applies to online/socially "maladjusted" types, trannies are very prone to this, especially anything tttt adjacent
>>42132289but passing for mtfs doesn't even have much to do with how attractive you are. you can be a fully passing ugly woman and you can be an attractive but clocky twinkhon.
>>42132300yeah thats the point, they dont actually care about passing as much as they care about being beautiful on top of passingthe same with the poons in questioneveryone just wants to be beautiful, i dont think this phenomenon is ultimately even particular to trans people, really
>>42132335>i dont think this phenomenon is ultimately even particular to trans people, reallyi agree i see it with cis incels on tiktok all the time.
>>42132182>probably because male beauty standards have never been this demanding beforeis that rly true tho? i see mid or below average guys with attractive girlfriends or wives all the time
>>42132621i only see that among old couples, among gen z and younger millennials the opposite seems more likely. so many fat and dumpy women with guys who look decent and clearly go to gym. thanks to social media and dating apps even the ugliest women have hubdreds of guys to pick from so you really need to be a chad if you wish to stand out. "real life" used to work for the less attractive men but theres fewer and fewer options to meet women on real life nowadays. clubs are insanely expensive and most women are very cold to any guy approaching them.
>>42132621nta but i think theyre right to a degree, in practice men dont actually have to work on meeting impossible demands to the same extent women do (especially given mens role in society is largely different from womens, and are simply valued for different reasons), the pressures faced in that aspect are simply different between the sexes but there absolutely is a spreading, even if largely very online, pressure to conform to primarily unattainable standards for men too, its an acceleration of ever increasing standards with a lot of compounding factors
>>42132658>thanks to social media and dating apps even the ugliest women have hubdreds of guys to pick fromfor sex yeahnot for relationships
>>42132663>In practice men don't actually have to work hardYeah, that's why that bird who posed as one for years killed herself. She had it too easy as a guy.
>>42132722nah, for both. sexual attraction and flings often start relationships. zero matches which most men get on the other hand truly lead nowhere.
>>42132723lazy bait
>>42132750an above average man isn't going to want a relationship with a below average woman most of the time but an above average man will fuck a below average woman in many cases
>>42132812so that just leaves the billions of average men for the below average woman to choose from.
>>42132116>why are they so obsessed with trying to look like the 1% of men?Mtfs do same to women.
>>42132116Because women only go for the top 5% of menGuys like me are ignored Im 6"6, white, but still its not good enough because of my bone structure and hair.You knew that. Yet you come here acting ignorant to the reality of the situation. I'd literally cut off my hand to have access to women like these guys do. Yet its never enough for women.
I victorfromarcanemax as a cis guy to pander to ftm femboys
>>42132768That not one women can ever reasonably address and only ever generalizes without even reading what the an hero'd woman's arguments were.
>>42132833not nearly as much
>>42133004>Im 6"6, white, but still its not good enough because of my bone structure and hair.Maybe you suck anon I'm 5'3 and do just fine
>>42132116>why are they so obsessed with trying to look like the 1% of men?because chasing fleeting beauty is fembrained
>>42132116Part of it is media bias, tooI want a particular appearance but I almost never see it anywhere. If I can't find media representations of my ideal look, how am I supposed to post it? If you have to start drawing your own people to post... it's over. Meanwhile it isn't hard to find media representations of tall cis guys with strong jawlines.
>>42133656>I want a particular appearance but I almost never see it anywherecould u describe it anon?
>>42133877it’s probably some ftm femboy fantasy
>>42133877Pear figure, flat chest, brown, deep voice, short and feminine but clearly an attractive man>>42135019Kind of, but that feels inaccurate because of the femboy part
>>42133192Yes they do troon, not even a fan of pooners but let’s be honest
>>42135207pear figure with deep voice and feminine?
>>42136177Feminine face is good, if it's got titties it automatically disqualified. If it's white it's disqualified. If it's got a feminine voice it's disqualified.
>>42135207>Pear figure, flat chest, brown, deep voice, short and feminine but clearly an attractive manso a vaguely masculine brown cis woman? kek
>>42136570that's what it sounds like to me too luls
>>42135207That sounds exactly like me
>>42137319It's exactly me, too. If you ever find characters in media with those stats, post them. I'm dying!
