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With the passage of the online safety act in the UK earlier this year, and equivalents in practically every other country, what will be the future of DIY HRT?

In its current form the OSA isn't a huge impediment to accessing anything online, but when these systems become universalised it won't be sufficient to just use a VPN to bypass them. Moreover there are amendments to these laws going through the various legal systems seeking to go further and impose system level AI surveillance on every device sold, and implement the banning of all encrypted internet traffic. No more security for the people distributing DIY HRT, and no more cryptocurrency.

Are you concerned?
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Good. We need more gatekeeping not less. Only passers should transition.
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>>42133755
I live in the UK
the only people on official government hrt are boomerhons who male privileged their way into money and can afford useless blood tests
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Stockpile raws whilst you can. UK govt has already said it will begin scanning all imports again in 2027
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>>42133755
>only passoids should transition
>prevents youngshits from trooning
>no way to know if someone will pass until they troon
?????
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>>42133861
Only luckshits should transition.
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>>42133861
maybe only permamently feminine intersex should be able to transition?
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>>42133881
TRVKE
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>>42133718
Seems more like an anglosphere issue than a global issue. Get out. Get a skill and leave.
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>>42133755
>>42133866
Alrighty then. I'll see you in 14 years when you get your first endo appointment. Plenty of time to get your Real Life Experience in. Shouldn't matter for a TruTrans like you, right?

>>42133916
Anglosphere + Europe, which is where all the internet is based. I'm not too confident that the unaffected areas will accept an influx of trannies, if it comes to that.
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>>42134032
Already transitioned kek
back when real ones got fast tracked and hons got frozen out
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>>42134032
Nothing the EU is doing makes me think that DIY is at risk. At the moment, they can't even prevent weapons from moving from Croatia to Sweden.
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>>42134048
EU wont care, UK will dedicate all resources to stopping trans people
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>>42134032
>Anglosphere + Europe

Europe is not g*rmany. And g*rmany in fact just fucked the supply chain for a plethora of chronic treatments, not just HRT for trannies.

Everything is fine. And DiY is in fact available everywhere.

t. euro tranny who just got the next batch from Netherlands
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>>42134072
>>42134048
Furthermore you under estimate the UKs influence. The UK puts pressure on other countries, i remember when you could get SRS easily in Europe, now they gate keep.

Same with Turkey, the UK put pressure on Turkish clinics to freeze out UK tourists, so now only the most dodgy, dangerous clinics will operate, resulting in patient deaths and injuries, then the UK medua runs stories on how dangerous medical tourism is whilst never saying its dangerous precisely because of the UK govt
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>>42133718
Yes. Britain is a shithole country.
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>>42133916
> Seems more like an anglosphere issue than a global issue.
its becoming global. russia and Africa are cracking down on transgenderism.
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>>42134236
Trannies shouldn't have groomed children
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>>42133860
Source?
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>>42134110
>Furthermore you under estimate the UKs influence
Or maybe you overestimate the UK's influence?
The UK is a marginal broke island at the edge of Europe. The only thing that makes it special is its nukes, but then Pakistan has nukes too. And unlike the UK, Pakistan will still be a majority Paki nation 100 years from now too.

What can the UK pressure with? Sanctions? Who gives a shit? Gone are the days that mattered.
If you're not the US, EU or China, you legit don't matter.
russia, uk, dprk, za, Brazil - these are all minor players.
The UK is a broke museum. It was once great. But it isn't anymore. And won't be anytime soon. All great countries end up lower-middle income shit-tier places. It happened to Persia, Greece, Armenia, the Ottoman Empire, now it's UK's turn. It will happen to the US as well, but not this century.
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>>42134110
>Furthermore you under estimate the UKs influence
The UK's influencing is dwindling, I honestly don't think it has much outside of its colonial offshoots. It left the EU, it's economy has been an object of grim curiosity for a decade now, and its political culture has become a study in toxicity. Maybe in the US and Canada, which are roughly as bad, it has some influence. And some poor nations which have dependent relationships on it might care. But their influence on Europe or Asia is essentially none, if the business lingua franca weren't English they'd have absolutely none.
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>>42134419
>The UK's influencing is dwindling
Absolutely "do the needful tier" lol, my fault for drinking and posting.
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>>42134419
>>42134378
Anon, yes the UK is a backwater but it dedicates its time to making sure medical tourism is banned. Dont believe me, you'll find out soon enough
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>>42134267
My ffs surgeon that refused to do an orchi, despite offering them for EU patients.

I'll try googling for the article about the UK influencing Turkey, if google isnt complete shit (it is)
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>the UK is a shithole therefore i will choose to ignore when it enacts harm that affects me and my community

I suspect glowies, no one is this organically stupid
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at least cutting our balls off is hard to ban, takes care of a lot of it.
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>>42134267
Have a read anon, really tough to get information these days

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/how-to-counter-the-risks-of-medical-tourism/
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>>42135080
British people are not my community. They could have a nuclear civil war for all I care.
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>>42135080
honestly the world would be better if the uk just went away forever
not even a joke
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>>42135173
You're not trans in europe?
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>>42135193
UK != Europe
In fact they specifically decided to distance themselves from Europe a decade ago.
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>>42135231
Then you fundamentally misunderstand.

The UK is, by the dictionary definition, a failed state. It has one single purpose, to stop trans people. They wont be content with just the UK, british politicians have been instructing America on how to be more anti trans, and they have done the same to the EU.

Yes, its not affecting you now that British trans patients cant access healthcare in EU states, but the future is deeply uncertain, and despite being a shithole, the UK is throwing every resource possible into trying to stop you, and people like you. The only uncertainty is what the EU will do, will they tell the UK to fuck off or continue to capitulate
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>>42135192
Its the most evil entity on planet earth. Its not even self serving evil, the UK gains nothing from its anti trans obsession, yet in every single institution, police, judiciary, healthcare etc, they discuss nothing but how to stop trans people, daily.

Pure evil
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>>42134419
>Maybe in the US and Canada
keep Canada out of this :( we're based tyvm
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>>42135274
>british politicians have been instructing America on how to be more anti trans,
the us says jump and the uk asks how high, this is a one way relationship
theres overlap in tactics and focus but the hysteria regarding trans ppl in the us is not created or ultimately informed by the uk
https://www.ettingermentum.news/p/the-modern-electoral-history-of-transphobia
the uk has no tangible power over any other developed nations and though this is cruel to an extent truly no one else really cares what happens on trash island, the trannies there would be best to leave and let it fall apart on its own
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>>42135330
Kemi Badenboch, leader of the opposition has been talking to the governor of Florida on how to be more anti trans

Shabana Mahmood, the Home Secretary, recently toured a Texas prison, and also instructed them on how to more effectively torture trans inmates. She's the former justice minister who sent all mtfs to male prison for forced detransition

You are massively uninformed
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>>42135372
Maybe trannies shouldn't commit crimes?
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>>42135304
lol
>>42135274
Failed states advocating for causes typically pushes people away from those causes. No one asks Egypt what the wave of the future is. If Egypt had strong recommendations for my nation, I'd assume the opposite course of action is advisable. The US, which by many metrics still has a lot of power and influence, seems to have tipped the scales *against* AfD despite trying to bolster them, precisely because they did try to interfere. I think the UK and Russia and the US stamping its feet about trannies is likely to make Europe polarize the other way on the topic.
>hey look, the whole collection of freakish dystopias thinks trannies are bad, wonder if they are right?
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>>42135378
Maybe you should go fuck yourself by jumping off a cliff.

The UK has remand, which means you can be innocent and awaiting trial, whilst being housed in a HMP prison, subject to HMOP rules.

Remember what happened to the Fujitsu Post Office victins.
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>>42135372
>>You are massively uninformed
im not, none of this really means anything and if you truly feel that tranpshobia is a br*tish invention you really are just coping with being a britbong
you could start with reading the article in question that offers a comprehensive history of the beginning of the hysteria in the states, but the point being that things like the home secretary touring a texas prison is performative and the states dont need to be instructed to do things like "deny hrt access to minors", these truly arent novel concepts
you still have that weird sense of british exceptionalism thing going on but dont see it
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>>42135193
I will second >>42135231
I'm trans in Europe, not in the marginal island.
British people, and especially the English, no matter how young, really do think their tiny island is important. It's amazing, really.

Somehow they still haven't internalized that we see them as less important than Azerbaijan. At least the Azeris have gas. The UK literally has nothing useful or important to contribute in the European conversation. Nothing whatsoever.
Shit-tier weather, shit-tier politics, mostly shit-tier people (let's face it), a lot of violence (Londonistan makes Paris a safe haven by comparison) and submediocre "culture" in contemporaneity.
Heck, even its economics are shit-tier. Greece and Italy have more stable finances that the UK.
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>>42135378
90IQ response lol
>>42135372
The US-UK relationship is unique. I don't think the ability for British people to export their unique strain of transphobia to the crappiest places in the US has a whole lot of applicability to British people trying to do the same in say, Italy.
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>>42135396
Maybe get SRS, then you can't be detransitioned?
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This is how they are going to put us in camps and sell our blood to the visitors. I've been saying this for fucking years and you kept telling me to go to /x/ and acting like I am not leftist.
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>>42135383
Perhaps, we can only hope. There was an EU representative that came to England to discuss child poverty, but the pervasive transphobia was so overwhelming he felt compelled to report on that too.
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>>42135400
>British people, and especially the English, no matter how young, really do think their tiny island is important. It's amazing, really.
i really dont get engloids and the british at large are still so deluded into thinking trash island is legitimately relevant at all and isnt just slowly dying and writhing as it does so
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>>42135404
They only offer testosterone, even with a gender dysphoria diagnosis.
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>>42135417
So don't take it?
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>>42135409
>England to discuss child poverty, but the pervasive transphobia was so overwhelming he felt compelled to report on that too.
Is there a report resulting from this? Sounds hilarious.
>>42135404
If they really care to, they will inject you with T. Or let you get raped to death. There's no personal responsibility-ing your way out of state repression past a certain point.
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>>42135398
>and if you truly feel that tranpshobia is a br*tish invention you really are just coping with being a britbong

Criminal Tribes Act 1875
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>>42135416
We laugh at Indians and it used to be a meme on 4chan with "superpower by 2030" about India.
But, legit, India has a lot more relevance than the UK. At least India buys food from us.
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>>42135427
I believe the report was called "keep calm and carry on".
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Transphobia is the fault of women
Women like Janice Raymond and the Michfest organizers for hating trans people
Other women for not nipping that shit in the bud
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>>42135428
>links to some ancient law
this is literally meaningless
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>>42135416
I know England is seen as a backwater, we are discussing trans healthcare specifically.
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>>42135421
Thats ok then, nothing to worry about.
Whats that, they say human rights law no longer apply to trans people.

I suggest you educate yourself on why the Human Rights Act 1948 was introduced post WW2
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>>42135447
Fuck you, you fucking piece of shit.

It shows that anti trans sentiment is nothing new within Britain. Stop being a stupid cunt, deliberately
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>>42135453
>I know England is seen as a backwater,
its not seen as backwater, it IS backwater
the uk is legitimately NOT relevant on the international stage anymore
the other anon is literally correct when he says jeets are more relevant on the global stage at this point, part of the transphobia is that its intentionally fomented as a means of guiding focus of the public away from the collapse of the uk
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>>42135480
Yes. Doesnt mean they cant negatively affect trans people worldwide
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>>42133755
>imblying they won't revert to honning everybody up again
expecting terfs to change, lmao
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>>42135480
>part of the transphobia is that its intentionally fomented as a means of guiding focus of the public away from the collapse of the uk

Minimally. The UK was doing ok in 1998, yet it was still in breach of EU law, hence Goodwin. The UK establishment has always hated trans people, this isnt new, the only new part is the scale.

Yes, it does distract the electorate, but the upper classes strongly believe in terfism
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>>42135480
>part of the transphobia is that its intentionally fomented as a means of guiding focus of the public away from the collapse of the uk

This is legit true.
In the EU the fault is blamed on russia (which at least is partially true, though shit-tier monetary policy of the ECB is also at fault). In the UK they found the trannies to be at fault.
Even the US has some diversity - illegals, jeets on H1Bs, the cartels, and then trannies.
But brits literally blame trannies for everything. Hilarious and sad at the same time.
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>>42133718
I'd like to think diy vendors can just sell from onion sites or i2p but yeah, it's not ideal. I'm opting out of anything that requires age vindication unless it's completely necessary.
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>>42135494
im saying i seriously dont think its an accurate assessment that england is the driving force behind transphobia elsewhere, if england had stopped existing 20 years ago the situation elsewhere for trannies would still be the same and worsening as the conditions driving this situation arent contingent on whats happening on trash island
>>42135517
i have no doubt the engloid bourgeoisie despise trannies, im arguing it doesnt really matter as trannies are the perfect populace to use in this manner and would be elsewhere in the west regardless
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>>42135547
English centrism and the US conservatism are the two prongs of the fork hurting trannies the most in the first world tbhon
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>>42135580
and to what extent does it matter, assuming trannies are going to be the focus of culture war shit either which way? i really dont think theres a way out of this and i dont think the uk is relevant anymore
the future for trannies is going to be in the east, the west lives now in an era of decay as it spirals towards its inevitable death, i guess if you want something more tangible and material trannies could be doing rn its probably in the form of organization and mutual aid with one another but other than that im honestly not even sure what the point of this thread is
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>>42135617
If we're to recover then we need to convince cis women to stop supporting feminism.
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>>42135638
you cant recover from death idiot
>its feminisms fault
most intelligent britbong
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>>42135655
It's absolutely feminism's fault for teaching women that men are evil and that trans women are even more evil men.
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>>42135638
>we need to convince cis women to stop supporting feminism
Good luck with that. English women have 500+ years of relentless support for misandry.
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>>42135679
>thread devolves into feminism bad and trannies are actually men so we should condemn feminism together
i am once again affirmed of my belief the british are subhuman and the struggles of trash island are whatever they deserve
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>>42135706
Is that Lilly Tino before transition?
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>>42135706
Trans women are women, but feminism refuses to acknowledge them as such, because it is trash
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>>42133718
>Are you concerned?
lmao no
if you cannot circumvent these pathetic attempts at profiling you shouldn't have internet access anyways
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>>42135706
>the british are subhuman and the struggles of trash island are whatever they deserve

I think we all can agree with that, despite our vigorous disagreements in other areas.
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>>42133718
>With the passage of the online safety act in the UK earlier this year
As a Brit...
Please, please, please stop trying to stop Trump from raising tariffs and sanctioning the UK for their draconian laws around surveillance and free speech.
It's the only way they will learn.
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>>42135883
To be fair, the EU deserves the same treatment.
It's not kosher to say it on this board, but the Trump admin is absolutely correct in pressing both the EU and the UK on freedom of expression.
Trannies cope with "b-b-but that's freedom to be transphobic" without realizing that it's also freedom of gender expression too. Which I kinda tend to be very much fond of, tyvm.

t. euro tranny
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>>42135903
You vill ztop bitching about ze freedom of expression
You vill conform to European ideals and culture



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