(Sorry for my bad English) I‘m a guy who turned 18 recently but started feeling extremely unhappy about masculinity roles and what men are even nowadays expected to do. Here‘s my list:- except cardio and staying fit I‘m not into gym or bulking culture at all and find it disgusting/too sweaty/too hard- I hate men perfumes and deos and they make me really uncomfortable. I love sweet/vanilla scents and secretly buy them- I refuse to be told to „man up“, that „men shouldn‘t show emotions“, „men shouldn‘t be weak“ and that „real men this real men that“- I refuse to be stoic I hate stoicism and will show my emotions that way or another and I‘m really emotional myself- I refuse to fullfill any traditional men in dating roles such as paying for dates alone, overprotective princess treatment, giving you the free seat ONLY because you‘re a girl (obviously I could do that but hate the gender roles about it)- I don‘t have and refuse to learn the traditional masculine personality: being confident, strong, sharp, ghosting girls, being a player in dating, working on myself, suffering in silence, grinding, etc.- even later in life I‘d refuse to fullfill the traditional male stuff such as being the main income source, killing spiders, etc.- I‘m shy, introverted, emotional and soft- I refuse to change my alt-streetwear style or cut my fluffy hair to „man up“ once 18- I shave my body and private parts hair and have a skin and haircare routine- I get pissed at any gymbro or redpill advice I see on my fyp- generally I‘m embarassed by how most men behave and sometimes wish I was BORN as a girl So… what‘d you recommend? If it‘s relevant I‘m straight (not sure if that changes after transitioning?), 185cm/6‘1 and have a cute yet male-looking face. Am I just GNC and can live like I want in my current body? Or should I consider transitioning?
>>42134294you're agp>I refuse to fullfill any traditional men in dating roles such as paying for dates aloneand a cheapskate
>>42134294doesnt matter if youre trans or nonbinary, taking hormones is the way for amab people. it will keep you more androgynous/feminine which is the way to go.
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>>42134294from what you've described you're not conventionally masculine, but that does not have to necessarily mean feminine. Like.... are you really sure your personality is somethong that would be more freely expressed if you were a girl? Women have an entirely different set of social expectations you may not even be aware of. Transitioning sucks, you will basically be subhuman until you pass. And you might never pass.Also, if it's some sort of AGP fetish motivating you to transition, this is not wrong, however, your sexuality might change from HRT and it might result in you not being interested in being a woman anymore.
>>42134294You know you can just not do that stuff right? HRT wont make you not live in a society, it will just make you grow boobs and break your dick. I wouldnt reccomend transitioning unless your problems are with your actual physical body
>>42134294"man up" is actually the correct solution here unless you actually just want to be a woman physicallystop whining
>>42134294You sound like a normal guy, not trans at all. You also sound like you live in a conservative environment and there is huge pressure on men to act a certain way. That pressure is entirely artificial: being male doesn't mean you have to enjoy strong perfume, or hide your emotions, or act as a sentient wallet. In fact, if all is well, we might see the world reject gender stereotypes more and more. Also, as you grow older, you might notice that lots of men secretly enjoy the same stuff that you like. Pop songs, cute things, etc. They also get mad if you point it out, as a defence mechanism. You're actually being very brave for saying, "fuck yeah, this is me and I'm not going to change for your sake".For your information, the defining characteristic of a trans person is dysphoria. If you don't want to cut off your dick, if you don't want to have D cup boobs, and if you don't want to look a big-hipped full-on WOMAN, then you're not transgender. Don't let the clowns here piss in your ears.
I won‘t „man up“ lol
>>42135739okay incel
u sound like an incel to me?
>>42134294>started feeling extremely unhappy about masculinity roles and what men are even nowadays expected to donigga everyone is unhappy. there is some radical reinterpretation of gender roles going on due to all the technological progress and urbanization. men no longer have to be pack mules slash trained killers to survive. women no longer have to be live in prostitutes to survive. everyone is confused, we as a species are not prepared for this. i agree with the dysphoria angle. if you actively want to have a pair of big jiggly jugs on your chest, you are a tranny. if not, then congratulations.
I never said „all girls have it easier“ or shit if that‘s what you mean. I just refuse to „man up“.
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>>42134294what's your opinion on you living as a woman
>>42135873I feel like that would be more compatible with my traits and personality if that makes sense…
>>42134294youre just describing not being comfortable with social expectations of the male gender roleif you dont experience dysphoria regarding your sex characteristics and have no real desire to be a woman outside of feeling it would be better suited to your personality you really shouldnt troon out>>42134415hello saar
>>42136331But how am I supposed to exist then when I can‘t and don‘t want to fullfill the said roles?
>>42136402wdym "how am i supposed to exist?" you simply doit doesnt matter whether you fulfill the role or not, its only an expectation placed on you that youre allowed to simply eschew should you feel the desire to do so, you have one life to live, do what you want with it, not whats expected of you
>>42134294unless you want a female body youre not transgender. sounds like youre just a non traditional man
>>42135898but like, do you want to be a woman or just think your personality is more alike a woman's? do you want a woman's body? if you do want to be a woman, why?
>>42136478I don‘t know if I want to change my gender now but I wish I was BORN as a girl. And yes it‘s mostly because of the personality & everything else I’ve listed in the original post.
>>42134294A lot of these are just rejections of weird dumb """masculine""" shit that gets forced on you.I'm ftm and because i /was/ born and raised female, it's impossible for me to accept many of these too. I can't treat women like that, and being cut off from your emotions is just poor mental health.You're also allowed, as a man, to like whatever fashion or perfume that you want.If you physically want a female or feminine body, that's the point where you would be trans.
>>42136625The question is, can I really do that as a man now without everyone hating me or would it be less painful to transition first and then (when the transition is hopefully good enough) enjoy the „girly“ stuff?
>>42137061There are plenty of men like you around me and no one's giving them trouble. It seems like your real problem is the environment you live in. You should focus on moving out instead of stupid shit like growing tits. >would it be less painful to transition Bruh.... Trannies are universally hated. If you troon out, you will make your life 1000x harder than it currently is. Guaranteed.
>>42134294Why are you mutts so devoid of culture that you have to define yourself like this? You sound like a soft faggot so just be that. You can literally do whatever you want. But just being weak and soft does not make you a women. Plenty of tomboys are women and do all the shit you are crying about. Get your test checked is the only advice but you sound like a victim of a single mom
