Thoughts on trans men who don’t want to pass? What is the point?
>>42138224they aren't really trans
>>42138224annoying as shit but their presence makes me respect trans men who actually take hrt and actually want to be masculine more
>>42138224Attention, narcisissm. But social trends arent real.
>>42138224Extremely based because they don't do weird things with their bodies to cope with mental issues.Just as deserving of compassion as all other transfolk.
if you're also a tranny and u get maddened by that shit youre fucking retarded. it made me mad when i was like 14 but if u are a grown adult then you are an idiot. the rhetoric that says women look this way and men look the other is bad for us. cis man dresses up like girl but still man. trans man dress up like girl so NOOO he cant be man. fuck off u winy dweebs. deconstruct the beliefs society has instilled in u. clothing and hairstyle do not equal gender. i cant believe that other troons n poons of tha world do not understand this.
>>42140650Based because they make nerds seethe online because they'll never be as hot as them
>>42140650you seem more mad than anyone here
>>42140650the problem for me is that people like this often do not really relate to or socialize with people of their preferred gender. so if you don't physically transition, you don't socially transition, and you don't see any part of yourself in the concept of manhood, why identify as a man at all?
>>42138224If they are on t or cut their tits off, valid desu
>>42140678>people of their preferred genderCan you really blame them? Imagine how a group of cis male normies would treat the dood
>>42140687i regularly spoke with cis men pre and post transition. they weren't any more or less shitty than the women i knew and now that im stealth its even less of an issue. i still have more female friends but i think many ftfemboy types (even the ones that transition) are very afraid or resentful of cis men and unwilling to befriend them outside of romantic relationships, which is what strikes me as odd
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>>42140712>ftfemboy types (even the ones that transition) are very afraid or resentful of cis menSee poon rape stats. If you were ugly lesbian that transitioned into a normal looking guy you have very different experiences. Also lots of parents install fear of men into their daughters
>>42140729Nta but rape stats aren't about your friends and homies raping you... It's likely your romantic partner/family member when you were young or something. At worst you're a third worlder experiencing actual corrective rape.
>>42140729i think it's normal to fear men, but what's unusual to me is that the fear and resentment goes beyond what's normal in the women i know. like, most women i know have at least 1 or 2 cis male acquaintances or friends, but frequently i'll see 'hefab' ftms who do not interact with cis men on any level outside of sex >>42140749also agree. like, i'm talking about people who don't talk to their male coworkers and even their internet friends are all women or other ftms. many of them even avoid gay men.
>>42138224ftfemboys are a cognitive hazard and special kind of dysphoria inducing cia psyop weapon
>>42140766>many of them even avoid gay men.Bad experiences do that
>>42140785Nope. Ftm femboys who actually transition (t and surgery) are beautiful. See benji.bunny tiktok
>>42140766>like, most women i know have at least 1 or 2 cis male acquaintances or friendsMost women are not like this
>>42140766>many of them even avoid gay men.Holy shit that's me... I'm a gayden and I avoid cisgays... But it's not because they don't accept me, I'm just not attracted to them. A lot of them are squares, UwU nuzzles u furries, or live a completely different version of "gay" than I do. No hate to cisgays, we just ain't cool like that.
>>42140803sorry, most of the women in your life arent friends with at least 1 man..? not even gay men, acquaintances, neighbours, classmates, coworkers? i'm not saying it has to be a special bond with 1000% trust, but i can't name a single woman in my life who isn't friendly with men at all>>42140787men face violence from other men all the time and, while they may develop a fear of other men, still ultimately behave as men in the male social role and socialize with other men. i've noticed non-transitioning ftms do not follow that behavior. it's not just a lack of medical transition, but a lack of willingness to be socialized as male. i don't think this is a crazy thing to say lol
>>42138224I think they're having some fun, joking around, and generally doing things that will get their socials boosted in viewsthere is also definitely a trend of ppl that base things on totally removed theoretical concepts and arguments, usually even heard secondhand or like only after an intro college classbut I don't think that anyone genuinely lives according to those theories, since there is a lot of effort in some of this stuff, it's not an accident of living but intentional expressionsome might think that it's like a protest against gender norms, or like performance sort of like in a similar vein to drag shows iunno
>>42138224I'm a man and I want to look like that tooCis and trans men can be feminine, so I think they're fine. But ofc they won't pass
>>42140841>I'm a man and I want to look like that tooaren't you an mtf repper? i just saw you in wipg
>>42140879Wanting to pass(looking like a girl) is not the same as being a girl
>>42140882ultimately on a social level being a female-passing femboy would be indistinguishable from living as a transgender woman
>>42140908Gender is not about looks but your inner world
>>42140908No, I'd get dysphoria if I'm treated as a female
>>42140820>men face violence from other men all the time and, while they may develop a fear of other men, still ultimately behave as men in the male social role and socialize with other menThis is different. These men are not treated like rape meat women. Also some gay men are very hostile about the idea of trans men. They write stories about how trans men trick them to have hetero sex and act very cruely. I have lots of empathy for these trans men.
