QRD on this >>42143973
is it a new John 50 term?

>>42144666
>>QOTT: Have you ever had gay sex?
Yep.
I did enjoy it. Stayed with the boy for almost 4 years. Unfortunately it didn't work out because geography disagreed (he had to move and distance relationships aren't realistic).

>>42144666
Never had sex of any kind. I dont talk to people irl either.

why not have gay sex and relationships without taking estrogen or having to see yourself as the female in the relationship???

>>42144851
>Not repping homosexuality.
Is bro retarded.

>>42144851
>why not have gay sex and relationships without taking estrogen
I did.

>or having to see yourself as the female in the relationship?

Because the brain disagrees, anon.
And nothing seems to be working anymore to get the brain to shut up about it.

>>42144880
maybe your brain disagreeing is just internalized homophobia

I truly dont think i'm trans but i keep coming back to the subject matter and have done so for the past 5-6 years basically ever since i've learnt what that is and what it means.
Am i stupid? I dont think i want to be a woman but i read troonslop media and get in my own head about hypothetically never being able to pass if i were to troon but i have no real intention or desire to. Am i just confusionrepping? I don't know how to feel about any of it and i hadnt developed a full rounded personality through which to identify myself and my needs and wants. I mostly progress through life based on momentary flights of fancy expressed throughout my routine dictated by material reality.

>>42144666
>>42141246
Repeatedly reminded that I'm into more feminine men a lot of the times but can only ever see myself in one role. Nothing in common with gay men or women.

I feel like reppers actually have faulty wiring in their brains which means that nothing short of neurosirgery would fix them.
At least thats what i think.

>>42144888
Yeah, that's why I had two different 4+ years relationships with men. Because I have iNtErNaLiZeD hOmOpHoBia.
Get real.
Real life isn't tumblr and westoid goyslop.

Went on the apps, but the homos disgust me

>>42145055
you feel your relationships, now at least, with men have to be regimented, you must be submissive and feminine, they dominant and masculine
that's internalized homophobia
you want to emulate straight people

>>42145055
Most gay people have internalized homophobia, it's just socially acceptable because they hate bottoms and feminine people and women.

>>42144920
>I truly dont think i'm trans but i keep coming back to the subject matter
Many such cases.
Fact of the matter is that it's a fascinating topic.
I can't troon out for health reasons but I also have a totally cis friend who is almost as fascinated with the topic as I am. He never contemplated doing it himself, but finds the whole thing fascinating at an intellectual level.
I find it weird when he talks about it from a very cold standpoint, but I gotta admit that people like that are probably the best kind to research it. Very little bias, a lot of fascination and no interest in doing it themselves. Ideal combination.

>>42145080
>you must be submissive and feminine, they dominant and masculine
Doesn't describe me.
You're an ideologically-driven moron. Or a fed bot. Or both, really.

>>42145080
No, that's what most gay people believe. I see being feminine as it's own thing, my own thing. They're the ones who are all about *must*.

>>42145090
>Most gay people have internalized homophobia
No, they don't. You don't know that.
You're here just to push an extremist agenda.

>>42145123
>most gay people are self hating so I will be that way too

>>42144961
>I feel like reppers actually have faulty wiring in their brains
Well duuh. That's what being trans is, very much unironically.
For some transition alleviates some of the ill effects of that faulty wiring. For others, not so much. And for others transition is not possible for unrelated reasons (here's where reppers are).

>nothing short of neurosirgery would fix them
Neurology still has no idea where in the brain (or really where in the body) the issue is. Let alone to be able to explain whether a surgical solution can even exist. Even less so to actually make it.

We're born too early for such an answer.

>>42145092
What if he's just a chaser/future troon.

>>42145171
I've known him for over 25 years by now. I will go out on a limb to say he would've trooned out by now if that's what he really wanted.
He's not married, he can definitely afford it and has more knowledge about it than the vast majority of doctors doing trans care.
Maybe he is a chaser, idk. But in the rare occasions I saw him hooking up, he did hook up with cis women. And his relatively constant FWB is also a cis woman (and I know she's cis because I had sex with her once many years ago).
Sure, I suppose he could still John50, but I just strongly doubt.

>>42145159
Gay men expect their partners to be self hating. That's on them.
It never fucking stops either, because they think that means they can also dictate your role and who you're attracted to which doesn't fucking change even if someone is trans.

So what then? If I'm gay or if I'm trans either way I'm in the same fucking position, because culturally people all seem to understand that being feminine means zero autonomy.

>>42145055
You can't reason with gincel, he's here to preach, not to talk.

>>42144666
god rozanov is so hot, the accent really makes it because watching him do tiktok promos aren't really the same
qott in order: have attempted twice but broke down crying both times, guess, idk anyone touching me sexually feels awful in a way i have a hard time describing
funniest thing is the second guy witnessed me acting this insane and still told me to call him back if I calmed down about it lol

i shouldnt have started estrogen

>>42144666
Every time I see how fucked up and awful men are I remember how often it's women engineering it

>>42145300
Why not?

>>42145265
What's a gincel?
>he's here to preach, not to talk.
Yeah, I got that. Trouble is that that kind of preaching is way too common in queer spaces and it's just... wrong.

>>42144666
i have fairly recently, i'm otherwise a very feminine homosexual man as a repper. i hate myself.

I wish i were trans.

>>42145447
Whats the point of repping as a feminine gay male

>>42144666
>QOTT: Have you ever had gay sex?
Yes with strange Israeli man
>QOTT2: Did you enjoy it?
Conceptually yeah
>QOTT3: If not, why?
I did molly ket coke and acid and I drank a little I kind of wanted to be raped by a strange foreign man but I through up in his fuck ass trailer my friends thing I’m traumatized but I don’t think abt it much tbdesu but it was nice in some ways he made me feel like a foid and I gave him a thigh job which appeals to my agp so it was meh 4/10 he was like 40 and I was 18 sooo also that

i just want to be a girl
i can't take this anymore

I think most homos are more feminine than most troons, just in a really gross way

>>42145747
Seeing men with gay cadence freaks me out.

>>42145410
my dick is curved now. my bf cries because it rubs his prostate too well

>>42146007
That sounds awesome tho.
My dick.is curved by default. Is that good for gay sex?

>>42145538
boyremoval from transphobic guys on grindr who dont realize theyre fucking troons

>>42146078
>My dick.is curved by default. Is that good for gay sex?
Different anon, but yes!
It's fun both as top but especially as bottom.
It does depend on the "angle" of the curve, granted. But it's a lot easier (and likely) to make the bottom cum from anal with a curved dick.

>>42146108
presumably you mean a curve upwards because anything else must be awkward surely

>>42145438
>What's a gincel?
Gay incel, he rages all day about how he hates trannies for stealing away his precious twinks and has a bizarre fixation with gay male fertility.

>>42145538
i cannot transition for a number of reasons :(

>>42145747
most gays arent stereotypically faggy. The stereotype is a gay culture thing and people dont act like that unless they're part of some scene.

>>42146135
>anything else must be awkward surely

The second guy I had a relationship with had the curved slightly to his right (as he was standing). It wasn't awkward (maybe because I was in love?) - but it was a bit of negotiation when I botomed if I wanted to have an anal orgasm with him.

>>42144666 (btw... devil's numbers)
>QOTT: Have you ever had gay sex?
yes, many times
>QOTT2: Did you enjoy it?
Absolutely. My first time was when I was 53 and regretted waiting.

>>42146294
every gay ive known was gay was stereotypically faggy, that might be due to closet fags not outing themselves.