>>42145399
normie looking trans people don't feel as much need to speak up for trans rights or are afraid of outing themselves

>>42145399
Trans normies pass too well to experience the level of transphobia and shit that clocky transbians do

>>42145599
Holy copium

>>42145399
>>42145412
I don't feel as much need to speak up ANYMORE.
I did. And then the gigacommies and the literal retards flooded every single queer space and told me to check my privilege.
Then, as if that wasn't enough, the younglings took over and decreed that everyone older than 25 is too old and cringe to be listened to. Except the 50+ gigacommies and sexual predators that groomed them, of course.
Then came the internet bubbles which made all of the above problems even worse.

So why exactly would I jeopardize my marriage and my relatively quiet and happy life? The biggest problem won't be the transphobes, but "the community" itself - which now validates hons and pervs and actively dislikes normal lgbt people.
And it's not just normie trannies who feel that. Normie fags and normie lesbians are also slowly just withdrawing because they realize it's not worth it.
Normie lesbians are disgusted by the TERFs and the normative misandry and normie fags are disgusted by the excessive sexualization in public.
We also slowly realized that our lives literally improve if we stay away from queer spaces.
Turns out normie cissoids are more than fine to call me "she" if I dress my age, speak feminine and act like a normal woman. Who knew? Not being a freak in public helps a lot. It's been more than a decade since I've been called anything nasty by a normie cissoid. And almost a decade since I've been misgendered.
But then again, I don't honmode, I manmoded until it became impossible, I did the work and I actually love being a woman, so I'm incentivized not to be a crazy person in public. Which is exactly the opposite of the incentive structure in "the community".

>>42145816
You didn't even mention when they abandoned trans people to focus on Palestine instead

>>42145816
>>42145412
see
room temperature take

>>42145816
was manmoding common among people who transitioned when you did? i thought people were forced to RLE or get no hrt

>>42145399
Because they're the ones who don't integrate into the rest of society well and/or have the least to lose.

>>42145816
"Commies" are just people who don't support oligarchies, but this zoomoid meme that anyone over 25 is a predator (except the groomers who cracked your "yolk" at 8) is giga ick and makes me realize that transgenderism is not something to defend.

>>42145879
>i thought people were forced to RLE or get no hrt

It really does depend on the country, the year one started and the route taken.
The RLE standard is for SRS, not for HRT now (this change in legality in my country came several years before I started).

>was manmoding common among people who transitioned when you did?
It was more common, yes. At least in part because looking like a freak in public was (and still is) heavily frowned upon.
This doesn't (and didn't) apply just to trannies or lgbt people. Very much cis straight people who were (or are) excessively freaks in public also get sanctioned (including legally under public order legislation).
Some of that standard has changed in the last decade, but not that much. I suppose honmoding is a bit more tolerated today.

Still, manmoding was (and is) more practical for job purposes. In 2008 (when I started) almost all transpeople were very much normal people and over 20. Some students, some already in employment.
Some of these changes for the worse are merely a downstream effect on changes for the worse in society at large. It has become far more acceptable to be a perpetual adolescent way into one's 30s or even later.
It also doesn't help that screening is now a joke. I had to go through testing to make sure I don't have other issues. Nowadays it's "self-ID". And I'm sorry but that's not progress. Transition really isn't for everyone. Well, good luck saying that in a queer space these days.

>>42145869
Because this is a new thing. Many years after I stopped giving af.
But yeah, that's also cringe. Especially given that in "Palestine" lgbt people are thrown off rooftops. "gays for palestine" is lunacy
But then again, it is a consequence of gigacommie colonization of queer spaces.

>>42146067
i feel like i'm screwed because i started at 30 (diy hrt for 1.5 years, manmoding) and feel like a perpetual adolescent still. i finally have a stable job now though and hope to socially transition after ffs if i can find the courage

>>42146118
I started at 25. Manmoded for ~6 years.
DiY wasn't available at the time. So for a while I had to rely on dumb doctors. Leapt on DiY opportunity as soon as it became available (although it was really expensive back then - and much harder).
So you may end up having to manmode a lot less.

>and feel like a perpetual adolescent still

What do you mean by that?
When I say "perpetual adolescence" I certainly don't describe feelings, but behaviors. NEETs, videogame addicts... things like that.
Maturing is not so much about feelings, but about taking responsibility for yourself and growing out of childish concerns.

>i finally have a stable job now though and hope to socially transition after ffs if i can find the courage
I didn't even think about social transition until I malefailed hard and consistently.
What I did in the meantime was the necessary background work:
- voice train (I can't say this enough times. It's fundamental! Do it yesterday! It's never a bad time to voice train!!!)
- tryout conventionally feminine behaviors and interests and see if I like any of them. Turned out I looooved cooking (mom was a terrible cook and grandma died before she could teach me). So cooking went from an affirming experience to a legit favorite hobby which contributed to attracting a husband
- exercise feminine walking patterns and do it with confidence. The more time went on E, the more I loved it anyway. Now I can't walk the way I used to at 25 even if I try, lol
- lean into the amplified emotions (which is the main neurological effect of E). This helped me understand myself better and sort my brain out now that the thought patterns finally "fit" (i still don't know how to describe this in words)
- experimented at home on how to dress appropriately. Cis women learn this at 12-14. We have to learn it too. And it's not easier either. The learning curve is about the same.
- carefully observed the women I admired and try to emulate (1/2)

>>42146118
>>42146249
- heavily lean into collaboration (which is very useful for your social life as well - even if you manmode)
- adopted a slower pace of life (E makes this easier anyway, but leaning into it is very good)

It's a lot of small things that you can (and in my opinion should) do. Some will come off as weird while still manmoding, but they'll be very useful once you socially transition.
Basically, learn to be a woman. Re-socialize yourself. It's a journey. Not a single moment. And most of the journey is in fact very pleasant and affirming in its own right.

You got this nona.
Hugs
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>>42146249
i mean struggling to establish a career, being emotionally immature, living with parents

- i have practiced some voice training but never around another person
- i've tried some clothes but haven't found things that work
- what sort of walking pattern?

>>42145693
its true though

>>42146314
>living with parents
That's a cultural thing. In most of Europe living with one's parents in one's late 20s is in fact very common and not something viewed as bad.

>i mean struggling to establish a career
Nona, since 2008 everyone has been struggling. My generation was the first hit, but then yours followed. It's not entirely your fault.
Also, unless you're a lawyer/doctor/actor, thinking in terms of "career" is harmful for you (this is true for all people really). Just get a job that doesn't ruin your health. And work from there.
It's okay to change "careers". I know I did several times. Until I eventually found the courage to start my own business.

> i have practiced some voice training but never around another person
That's okay. It's an individual journey. Try it around other people only if you fully trust them.
Or, alternatively, if you voice train enough and efficiently, it will seep into your normal speech. That happened to me lol.

>what sort of walking pattern?

activate your transverse abdominal muscles (imaging a rope gently pulling the left and right pelvic crests towards each other or towards the midline if your stomach). In doing so, that frees up something in your glutes and your hips sway/rotate a bit more.
The feminine walking pattern is with one foot in front of the other. The masculine walking pattern is more lateral and relies on the upper body, rather than hips.

Here's a more professional explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOAo2M43kTs&t=293s

>>42146420
thank you. you are a cool lady

>>42146607
You're welcome, nona.
Now get to work :3
Most of it is fun, I promise. Some of it is daunting, but its effects on your mental health are amazing once you apply them in public.

Femininity is a lot more than skirts and dresses. Heck, I haven't worn a dress since before the pandemic on a fancy event at my husband's workplace.
Femininity is a state of mind which is expressed through thousands of small gestures and attitudes. Cis women learn them too. A lot of them are made easier by E. But we can't skip the steps altogether. And we shouldn't because most of them are genuinely fun.
Don't approach this as a "to do list" for other people, but as a list for things to make you feel better. The effects in relation to other people are a beautiful bonus, but what matters the most is for you to feel better in your own skin.
Also, don't be afraid to discard some of the things if you don't like them (except voice training - that's not negotiable,sorry).

Being feminine is a full experience, not (just) a set of things "to do".
Enjoy life.

Hugs.