Once again bone structure isn’t dependent on HRT or even your sex, but rather ancestry and parents. Your face mostly completes development at early teen years and some people are already too masculine to pass by then, so being on HRT “early” still won’t shit for the face especially. Most people on this board have the stereotypical white Ryan Gosling look, you are not the entire population.If you can’t tell the whether or not you can pass before HRT, you’re fucking face blind.Also, affects HRT has on the brain and neuroplasticity in development is crucial yet critically ignored.
>>42155797But youngshits need to believe they're better than midshits because they started early, so we'll continue to see them mistake stunted male development for female development.
>>42155797yeah i went through all of my teenage years w no hrt and still look more feminine then some youngshits
>>42156088It's all about being a luckshit
>>42156092yeah it seems its really down to luck more than anything else. glad i won but i wish there was a more reliable way to make sure trans women can pass other than luck and starting hrt b4 you even start puberty (even then you need luck)
>>42156139There is no way. Ability to pass is baked in by age 3, maximum.
>>42156155maybe ffs will get better in the future but even then theres a lot of other factors that we cant control. like ribcage and midface
>>42156178pelvis dimorphism begins before birth, tooribcage width isn't all that dimorphic, though
>>42156155>source - pedophile rambling
>>42156192male minipuberty occurs during the first two years, idiot
>>42156155trvkeprobably it's set in the womb, even boys who get castrated at birth because of serious pelvic defects don't pass
>>42156207yeah. prenatal masculinization does a lot
>>42156190hmm ive heard they are working on a surgery to change that but idk sounds rly risky atm
>>42156231It won't create a female pelvis. It'll create a widened male pelvis. The acetabula won't change.
>>42155797its genetic and hormonal. hormones before pubertal bone development doesn't mean you'll look like a pretty woman it means like you'll look like a woman from your family. some of our families women are fucking manly and ugly as shit. some of our families men are girly. so some people need luckshit and youngshit, some people just need luckshit, some people are ngmi at all.
>>42156246yeah but if its close enough it should do the trick.
>>42156092i mean age does matter. i got unlucky genetically but really lucky starting at 14. i pass i just am sorta mid and look older for my age. >>42156155its not>>42156246the silhouette changes.
>>42156333No, it won't. You will not be able to walk normally after it, because it won't change the Q-angle.
>>42156379>the q angle memeit's based on height
>>42156383The problem isn't transvestigators examining your Q-angle. The problem is that you will have a Q-angle that no longer matches your pelvis width, which will impair your ability to walk.
>>42156408anon, your q angle can change. Pelvis width changes with age