Would curing autism not solve 90% of trans cases?

>>42156860
let me guess, is the cure repping?

Oh he still hasn't suid?

>>42156860
If you can cure trans you can reverse the process. Neither of us want to live in that world

>>42156879
she's had like 3 rounds of ffs and still bitching

>>42156860
how new are you that you're taking cafebeef's words at face value

>>42156860
>source?

>>42156860
genocide is the biggest bullshit word ever
>extinction of a group of people is le bad
so if the japanese refuse to breed or the white brazilians all intermingle with half castes that's the same as the nazi holocaust? utter bullshit
groups of people have no collective right to keep existing over potential new groups and insisting they do is pure conservatism

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>>42156860
She's right, trans activism has championed transition as the only cure for gender dysphoria. The more extreme ones even attempt to decouple transition from dysphoria entirely, so that the only rules are the ones dictated by the activists. Research into alternative cures for dysphoria are verboten.

If a pill could make me a cis man with no dysphoria or desire to transition I would take it in a heartbeat, and the only reason not to would be political activist reasons.

It's like blind people not wanting a cure for blindness, because they REALLY like canes, guide dogs and dark glasses.

>>42156972
gender dysphoria is quite literally defined as a desire to transition though.
by its very definition it only has one treatment.
the truth is that gender dysphoria is a fake disease the only thing that ever existed was people who wanted to medically transition.
the bigger red pill is that all "mental illness" has the same structure and it's all fake in the same way
psychiatry has never had any idea what it was doing

>>42156860
while its true a cure without physically changing the brain directly is impossible...so?

>>42156972
they've been trying to untrans people for centuries u dolt and it just makes things worse always

>>42156972
Trans activists don't have the institutional power to prevent research into alternative treatments, and said treatments haven't had any widespread success.

>>42157001
>the truth is that gender dysphoria is a fake disease the only thing that ever existed was people who wanted to medically transition.
I'm willing to agree with this, with the caveat that failure to transition results in mental distress and life dysfunction. That's the dysphoria. The only reason transition is accepted as a cure is because it seems to reduce distress and dysfunction.
>the bigger red pill is that all "mental illness" has the same structure and it's all fake in the same way
I believed this until my friend developed schizophrenia in his 20s. He literally hears voices, thinks people are following him, it's fucked. That is not fake

leading alternative solutions for gender dysphoria:
>antipsychotic lobotomy drugs
>take more testosterone actually
>jesus

hmm, I wonder why trans people don't like the idea of "curing dysphoria"
it's almost like gender dysphoria can't be cured because it's practically impossible to rewire the brain to not have gender dysphoria... like we can't even do that for depression or anxiety. We literally just try random drugs until they seem to benefit patients of psychiatric disorders without even knowing why or how they work
"curing dysphoria" is about as probable as being able to medically change someone's favorite color. We don't even have a basis for how something like that would be possible. If we had the perfect ability to rewire neurons one by one we still wouldn't have any idea how to do it.
but I'd be curious about any theories

>>42157001
>mental illness is fake
you know it's possible to induce mental illness via medicine, right?

>>42157014
More research needed. I think people should be able to transition, especially those with dysphoria, but treating that as the only cure and disbarring further research is wrong. Again, I want my cis pill.
>>42157051
>Trans activists don't have the institutional power to prevent research into alternative treatments
You've been asleep since 2015 if you genuinely believe this.

>>42157051
>Trans activists don't have the institutional power to prevent research into alternative treatments
they absolutely do, researchers hate being hassled
scientists and doctors are not that courageous, to stop them doing their work all activists need to do is threaten them or protest their conferences
with that said, there are no alternative treatments even possible because gender dysphoria only exists by virtue of the fact transition exists

>>42157070
>I'm willing to agree with this, with the caveat that failure to transition results in mental distress and life dysfunction.
but this would be true of any treatment the patient desired
cutting a leg off
getting a tattoo in a certain place
getting access to certain drugs
it's just a symptom of any desire for treatment, not at all specific

>The only reason transition is accepted as a cure is because it seems to reduce distress and dysfunction.
transition isn't a cure for anything
gender dysphoria was DEFINED as a desire for a treatment. you can't turn around and say transition cures gender dysphoria. it's a content free statement. all you're really saying is that you're giving the patient what he or she wants, just in more elaborate language.

>I believed this until my friend developed schizophrenia in his 20s. He literally hears voices, thinks people are following him, it's fucked. That is not fake
it is not fake that your friend hears voices and thinks people are following him
it is probably fake that there is a single disease called schizophrenia, because we don't understand the brain well enough to look directly into the brain and show where it's gone wrong
all you can say is he fits in with a certain category of other patients, he seems to improve if he takes his pills, and he should probably keep taking the pills
even at its best psychiatry is a primitive attempt to catalog the ways the brain can go wrong, and should never be mistaken for anything scientific

>>42157133
Trans activists don't even have the institutional power to keep minor transition legal, let alone prevent research or even "research" into alternatives.

>>42156860
I personally prohibit all research into curing trans people because it's funny.
You're welcome.

let me explain to you retards how science works. science is a consensus. scientific studies have seen the greatest decrease in gender dysphoria suffers by simply having them transition socially, medically, legally, etc.. and much research agrees that this is the best way to do it, so it becomes consensus. they tried for years to cure dysphoria through conversion therapy but it often make gender dysphoria and the subject's happiness worse, as does repping, so the consensus is that allowing people to transition makes them happier. there's so many pieces of research that agree on this that allowing gender dysphoria suffers to transition one way or another makes them happier, thus that is the consensus. but who am i kidding 4chan doesn't operate on facts, it operates as falsehoods disguised as facts because they oh so conveniently happen to affirm your 'informed' opinions. but go on, contribute to transgender research, maybe i'll be proven wrong, but make sure your shit is up to good quality and not some skewed bullshit made up by organizations who have ulterior motives behind conducting said research

>>42157133
>disbarring further research
good thing nobody is doing this

>>42156860
I think if we cure Judaism it will solve most of our transphobia and genocide problems.

>>42157200
this is completely ignorant of what science is, how it works, the distinction between medicine and science, and the history of the indication of gender dysphoria
i guarantee the closest you've ever been to science was some bullshit degree with a lot of women in all the classes

>>42157280

Genocide, sure, but isn't the common conspiracy the Jews are funding trans propaganda?

>>42157352
alright, tell me what studying the physical, biological, psychological and medical is worth without consensus.

>>42157165
I don't think you understand the scope of the institutional capture of the medical system by trans activism. After gay marriage became legal in 2015, trans advocacy became the new thrust of the left and they let the crazies run wild because there was no limiting factor. They were calling cis women "birthing persons" to placate the feelings of a very loud minority of mtfs and their problematizing activists. ~50% of the population having their womanhood trivialized for the sake of like .3% of the polulation. Is that outsize political power? The unpopularity of the trans topic in the 2024 cycle was a backlash to this sort of thing.

I want trans politics to stop being politics and just be healthcare. We don't have a national conversation about blind people, it should be the same for us. And if somebody can make me cis then yes fucking please.

>>42157227
We are able to see the downstream effects: no non-transition interventions for gender dysphoria have been championed. Can we infer that such research is suppressed or discouraged, given the institutional capture of the medical system by trans activists? Given the political football that transness, pronouns etc have become? There's too much sensitivity surrounding the subject for me to believe that we are looking into it impartially.

>>42156860
For the same reason a lot of autistic people don't want a cure for autism.
A lot of trans people are: a) happy with themselves as is, b) want societal acceptance to continue increasing, and c) would like for their demographic to continue existing.
A cure for gender dysphoria would pressure all trans people into curing themselves, wipe out societal acceptance by making the choice voluntarily, and likely result in parents erasing gender dysphoria from all of their children.
If people who don't want gender dysphoria, could, in a vacuum, choose to not have it anymore that would be great. Unfortunately, society isn't structured that way.

>>42157463
trannies should have a choice if they. want a cure or not. you cant ban it

>>42157450
>no non-transition interventions for gender dysphoria have been championed
yes they have, it was very common in the past for doctors to recommend talk therapy for patients that did not meet standards of severe gender dysphoria. The medical community however no longer supports this model of treatment.
>Given the political football that transness, pronouns etc have become
given the political football, what are some suggested alternative treatments by scientific and medical leaders on anti-trans sides?

>>42157450
Wasn't the "birthing persons" language established due to FtMs not getting insurance coverage for pregnancy expenses if they weren't legally women? Literally a matter of healthcare.

>>42157481
I don't think it should be banned, I just recognize the fears that some trannies have should a cure surface.
It's a societal issue.

>>42157481
nobody has ever banned this

>>42156860
My state of existence doesn't need a "cure"

>>42157507
it would be very difficult to green-light as trannies would claim its genocide. and society to scared of transgender lobby to fight back.

>>42157507
we can live in hope

>>42157516
> My state of existence doesn't need a "cure"
but isn’t gender transition a cure for gender dysphoria?

>>42156860
I wish they could find a cure

>>42157517
america and the uk both have anti-trans governments, why isn't anyone proposing solutions?
does rfk jr have any ideas on potential treatmens? What about joe rogan? Joanne?
I'm sure there's many scientific and medical leaders on the right who would be fully able to propose solutions, what are they saying about it?

>>42157528
>OP says "cure trans"

>>42157517
>"The scary tranny lobby is stopping it!"
>The Party For Killing Trannies reigns supreme
what

>>42157549
it's bullshit to claim either government is anti-trans
both governments are pro-trans, just not totally ideologically captured by activists like biden or the UK tories were before
you can be sick of the excesses of tranny ideology such as transitioning kids and putting men in women's sports without being against the freedom of adults to choose to take cross sex hormones or get their dicks cut off if they want
we know that trump is personally pro-tranny and had them in beauty contests before

>>42157549
> america and the uk both have anti-trans governments,
wrong. neither has banned gender affirming care for adults. google trump, elon musk snd catlyin jenner photo. those governments simply want minors to be 18 years old before they take drugs that will chemically castrate them or not

>>42157579
>>42157589
can you name some anti-trans political figures?
what are their proposed solutions to gender dysphoria?

>>42157579
>Pro-trans governments
>Have spearheaded the decline in trans rights over the past decade
lobotomite

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>>42157563
the gop is the party of trannies. just as long as the y are adults

>>42157595
rights are always zero sum
"trans rights" at their zenith included claims that squashed all women's rights out of existence and the rights of children to grow up unharmed
trans rights are bad things, and it is good for the public if there are fewer, not more, trans rights

>can you name some anti-trans political figures?
any real social conservative or any real terf would do, but there are few of either in US or UK politics

>>42157616
which rights are lost by women if men are included?

>>42157200
>>42157428
Consensus is irrelevant to science. Science is a fact based interrogation of the world with hypotheses and outcomes that are replicable. Claiming consensus is the end-all is an appeal to authority

>>42157606
>Party of trannies
>Introduces over a thousand anti tranny bills this year alone

>>42157616
Not beating the lobotomite allegations

>>42157579
every time i hear about “trans rights” its ALWAYS under 18. year old kids. always. you never hear about adults? why? cause transphobia doesn’t exist. its a myth. look at how charlie kirk interacted with trannies. totally respectful

It is objectively better to live in a world where you can choose your sex. I would love a cure for gender dysphoria. I would still desire to live as female because its rad. I don't even know who I would be 'as a man'. The problem with OP is not in a cure but in that it imagines a cure as the same thing as trans people not existing

>>42157623
all of them, by definition
just as men lost rights when women gained rights, and non-slaves lost rights when slaves gained rights
rights are not good or bad, they are just zero-sum claims

>>42157606
based

>>42157634
Reproducibility and consensus are kinda key to science as a whole. A study gets reproduced, the consensus changes, and that new consensus is used as the basis of further study.

>>42157643
not all trannies have gender dysphoria

>>42157634
so how do you decide something is a fact, especially when it's intangible?

>>42157493
That's still the dignity of cis women being compromised to accommodate trans people, but I like your argument

>>42157647
>just as men lost rights when women gained rights
I don't think you understand what a right is
if men have the right to vote, they don't lose the right to vote when women get the right to vote
both groups can vote. That's what the right to vote is

>>42157642
>"You are an abomination to God!"
>"Nuremberg-style trials for every GAC provider!"
respectful

Also you are just a liar lmao.

>>42157655
Okay? That is unrelated to my post.

>>42156860
but what if I, a tranny, am in favor of trans genocide?

>>42157663
when women got the right to vote, that necessarily diminished men's voting power, and had other effects, like making politicians pay less attention to men over women
rights are always zero sum

>>42157667
>”God loves you and wants you to be happy (trannies).”
yea such a bigot

>>42157685
>"I love gay people so much I want them to not be gay anymore, because being gay is evil and wrong!"
Ok Anita Bryant

anti-trans would mean banning all gender affirming care and banning all legal gender change. that’s simply not happening in usa snd uk. those countries have had trans rights for decades now. nobody is trying to take your surgeries or LGC from you.

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>>42157643
>It is objectively better to live in a world where you can choose your sex
It's possible that one sex is objectively better to be, and that every person would choose to be that sex and the human race would cease to exist. Or more likely, the society that invented such a technology would be overrun by the 50/50 sex distribution societies that didn't.

>>42157683
and yet every individual retained the right to vote, which is more valuable than giving specific groups unique rights for arbitrary reasons
objectively, nobody lost rights

>>42157706
is that why he went to dave rubin’s house with his husband for dinner?

>>42157715
Actual, literal retard. I am thankful you are not even remotely near the gene pool.

>>42157091
fpbp

>>42157732
Lobotomite doesn't understand analogy. Shocking.

>>42157647
Literally nobody lost any rights by the abolishment of slavery

>>42157719
This is clearly just absurd I don't know what to say. No, everyone is not going to change sex and the human race will not end lol. You're mental.

>>42157739
your surgeries are secure in all 50 states and private companies have healthcare plans to cover your transition. im sick of the blood libel of trans genocide. its simply giving children a choice.

>>42157758
You claimed it is objectively better to live in a world where you can choose your sex, it is objectively not. I understand how it would be objectively better for YOU (and me) in the short term, but we don't live in a vacuum.

>>42157779
would you change sex to be a woman in such a world?
do you think everyone would want that because it's what you want?

>>42157724
If I am in a society where only men can vote and I have voting power X, as a man, then if women get the right to vote, then my voting power becomes X/2, presuming women are 50 percent of the population. I objectively lose rights if women gain rights. That is just a fact about how all rights work because a right allows you to do something or stop someone else from doing something.

> which is more valuable than giving specific groups unique rights for arbitrary reasons
It's equally arbitrary (and unworkable) to say everyone has exactly the same rights. There are natural divisions in all societies. Government always gives those in power much greater rights, such as the right to make laws and use force. It's also not arbitrary that women have different rights to men everywhere.

>>42157767
>Giving children a choice
>By taking away their choice
And, no, surgeries are not secure in all 50 states. Some states even tried introducing bills that make being trans in public a crime.

>>42157804
>I objectively lose rights if women gain rights
no, you lose power
being able to vote without women voting is not a right.

>>42157757
Slave owners obviously lost the right to own slaves.

>>42157805
children can’t rationally choose to have a vaginoplasty at 9 years old. only at 18 can they. again its about a choice someone can rationally do

>>42157779
Yes, it would be better. An example of why your reasoning is nonsensicle:
>I think chocolate is good and the world is better for chocolate existing
hohoho but don't you know that if chocolate exists and tastes nice people might only eat chocolate and we'd all die because of it

It's like...yes sure that would be bad. But it also is not going to happen. Right now people can transition and yet not everyone transitions. You are providing a fantasy situation that could only exist in your head to true to say I am wrong for saying it is good that people can transition. Silly billy.

>>42157827
>Vaginoplasty at 9 years old
tf

>>42157661
cis women should have their right's stripped tbdesu

>>42157827
It's a catch-22. If you don't transition it while you're a child you never look right so you look like a complete monster moron. It should be illegal for anyone to transition because an adult it hurts them because they never look right and children you're saying they're not old enough to make the decision. Ban it all!

>>42157805
>introduced bill
sorry i introduced a bill to bring back jim crow, i guess that means we got jim crow now. you people are insane. hrt and surgeries are protected constitutionally in all 50 states

>>42157812
>being able to vote without women voting is not a right.
It is a rights claim, just not one that you agree with.
Being able to exercise power without anyone at all voting was the right that the king claimed. And men could argue they had a right to settle political questions without women voting in them. A right is anything that can be argued for as a right.

>>42157839
transition surgeries of children is happening at am alarming rate in states that dont ban it

why are chasers so retarded and transphobic

>>42157795
I would. And I entertain the possibility that a society-destabilizing number of people would do the same.
And societies do not exist in a vacuum, we are in group competition with the radical religious mean of humankind. Most people historically and even globally are not open minded philosophically liberal self-actualizing westerners, most people are religious and cultural dogmatists with just enough personal agency to get by. That is to say, the perfect sex liberated society would likely lose to a dogmatic religious expansionist society.

>>42157842
> If you don't transition it while you're a child you never look right so you look like a complete monster moron.
not my problem. i had a friend transition at 25

>>42157859
>I would. And I entertain the possibility that a society-destabilizing number of people would do the same.
have you considered that most men don't want to be women?

>>42157842
it's funny how trannies simultaneously insist nobody can tell and that they look like complete monsters

>>42157851
Vaginoplasty isn't happening for 9 year olds. No doctor would ever approve it. It's exceedingly rare for minors to receive bottom surgery, and as far as I know the youngest case of it (for transition purposes, not "intersex corrective surgery") is 17.

>>42157859
>And I entertain the possibility that a society-destabilizing number of people would do the same.
have you considered the possibility that a society mostly made up of trannies would be really funny?

>>42157867
It's a selfish sexuality it's heterosexual men falling in love with their own image, feminized.

there should be a little asterisk near someone’s birth gender if they transition saying they changed gender. but they should not be allowed to change it completely. you should be marked

>>42157865
>have you considered that most men don't want to be women?
Have you considered the possibility they do? If it were as easy as you say in you hypothetical, why not do it just to fuck around? Men do all kinds of wild stuff

>>42157886
It's would be pretty based desu but also submissive and breedable

Anywayyyyyy

>>42157884
the youngest is 15 years old for bottom surgery.

>>42157908
Hey idiot respond to me thanks >>42157835

i think we should ban all your tranny sex changes and cross sex hormones. i want to hear you trannies bitch do fucking badly ahaha

>>42157867
Trans people aren’t a monolith

>>42157935
"X group isn't a monolith" is always a lie because X wouldn't be a group in the first place if it weren't monolithic in at least one respect.
trannies are quite obviously a monolith and act as a hivemind on most questions they think are important.
we know this because trannies that step out of line get cancelled and sent terroristic death threats and get forced out of public life, even important trannies like Hontrapoints.

>>42157962
>If these people share exactly ONE trait in common they're a monolith
why are chuddies so incredibly stupid?

>>42157916
There's no need to be mean

>>42157975
you can try to come up with exceptions - say, people with one leg aren't a monolith, except they probably are a monolith on the subject of disability ramps.
but any time someone claims their group isn't a monolith, they are just lying.
the worst offenders of course aren't even trannies, but jews

>>42158007
Do you know what "monolith" means?

>>42157978
Theres no need to be an idiot baby either and yet here you are girl

>>42158025
a bunch of men in dresses sending death threats to women?

>>42157835
ok nona I'll lick your nonsensicle

Chocolate =/= world where you can choose your sex

delicious!

>.yes sure that would be bad.
Glad you agree with me
>You are providing a fantasy situation
No, you provided a fantasy situation and I entertained your hypothetical and then you agreed with me. Thanks for playing!

>>42156860
Gays and lesbians laugh but if they found a cure for transness I bet conservatives would 100% want one for homosexuality as well

>>42158119
why would that be bad though?
if there was a pill you could take to instantly stop being gay i'd take it in an instant
being gay has made my life noticeably more difficult than it should've been
the reason we aren't big on conversion therapy is that it doesn't actually work

>>42158112
My fantasy situation is the world we live in now lol? One where you can change your sex. As in, what you and I did. You donkey.

My point being that even if I did not have GD I would still want to be female.

You said that this is bad because then everyone would transition.

You're bonkers

>>42156860

>>42158141
Because some people would rather stay themselves and just not be discriminated against because of it.

>>42158165
i'd still be me, just not gay
i don't see why that's less "myself" than, say, treating someone's diabetes makes them less "themselves"
if we had a cure for being gay that actually worked and someone refused to take it, it would be reasonable to discriminate against them, like we should discriminate against fat people now they can take ozempic

>>42158159
>It is objectively better to live in a world where you can choose your sex.
Sounds like a hypothetical to me. We cannot change our sex fully, only our gender, and a couple of sex characteristics. More would be great! (for you and me)
>even if I did not have GD I would still want to be female.
If GD is not driving you to transition, then what is? And if GD is not necessary for even you, and total sex change is easy and possible, then why wouldn't men do it?
>You're bonkers
Stop negging me it's working. When do we kiss?

>>42158237
Speak for yourself love there's nothing male about me. How long you been transitioning for?
>If GD is not driving you to transition, then what is? And if GD is not necessary for even you, and total sex change is easy and possible, then why wouldn't men do it?
I guess GD was part of it but I never really lived as a man and I cannot imagine who I'd even be as a man. I'd not be the same person anymore

>>42158188
>we should discriminate against fat people now they can take ozempic

We should've always discriminated against fat people because not stuffing your face has always been an option.

>>42158262
>We should've always discriminated against fat people because not stuffing your face has always been an option.
only if big food companies weren't allowed to spend tens of billions lab-optimizing the fuck out of their taste profiles to hack your primitive desires for fat, salt and sugar and making their goyslop more addictive than cocaine

>>42158255
I guess you don't want to kiss then :(

>>42158269
Or if child obesity was classified as child abuse

Or if psychiatrists were more honest about SSRIs

Or if everyone had healthy thyroids

>>42158255
>I guess GD was part of it but I never really lived as a man and I cannot imagine who I'd even be as a man. I'd not be the same person anymore
Different nona here
I legit felt this. Without a shred of irony my life started at transition. Me as a personality didn't exist prior to that. I only started building it then.

t. just turned 20 yrs on hrt

>>42158237
>And if GD is not necessary for even you, and total sex change is easy and possible, then why wouldn't men do it?
Because in reality very few cis people spend more than 3 minutes per year thinking about these things.
Heck, even I spend less than 5% of the time the median tranny spends thinking about this these days.
Most people are cis and have no desire to transition. And that's okay. And even if it were made a lot easier, it would still be a tiny minority of people who would take the opportunity. Yeah, all of the reppers would stop repping but... that's about it.

t. >>42158282

>>42158306
i think if transition was instant and perfect most men would try it

>>42158269

Copium as fuck

>I CAN'T STOP EATING CHEETOS RFK JR. SAVE ME

Yes you can, you just don't want to

>all our food should be bland and taste like ass because some people can't stop themselves from becoming the size of Section 8 apartment buildings

Muh freedom

>>42158279

SSRIs do not make you gain weight. Being happy and eating makes you gain weight. If they could magically generate energy that was never consumed, why would we not be giving them to starving African children?

>>42158282
Yes exactly. I think I was in some ways a boy perhaps but I grew into a woman. Did I experience GD/do I experience GD now? Sure but I transitioned because I am a woman and that is how I need to live my life to be me. GD relates to that but is not the reason I transitioned exactly, I transitioned because it is what was required for me to be myself. Imagining taking something that would allow me to live as a man is like imagining taking a drug that would turn me into a dog, its just too far outside of my self understanding to imagine. Of course I'd love a cure for GD but I'd still hace transitioned because that is what I needed to do in order to grow into a woman.
>20 years
I think you and I have spoke quite a lot before lol

>>42158317
SSRI weight gain is due to serotonin being used to modulate your hunger response and how your body retains energy. I was happier and lost weight when I quit SSRIs.

>>42158255
I'm less than a year nona. I have been manmoding for a while.

>>42158282
>t. just turned 20 yrs on hrt
Good for you

>>42158306
>>42158316
This is the hypothetical I thought I was engaging.

>>42158344
I think if instant magical sex change was possible, most people would 100% try out both sexes and switch between the two frequently because why the fuck not?

>>42158344
>I'm less than a year nona. I have been manmoding for a while.
The reason I asked is that it seems clear to me you have a lot to figure out, and that you still imagine yourself as fundamentally a man. Its a shame!

>>42158317
>I CAN'T STOP EATING CHEETOS RFK JR. SAVE ME
well most adults are obese despite not wanting to be, so plainly people are generally unable to stop eating shit processed food to the point of becoming obese
i think you enjoy the feeling of being superior to other people more than you care about their health, because otherwise you'd propose something concrete (like the obvious: legislation to ban all shit ultraprocessed food, treat it like heroin, confiscate the assets of every single person who has ever worked for any food corporation, and imprison every single fast food, and processed food corporate executive and every single food company scientist for their entire lives without the possibility of parole)

>>42158367
What makes you say that?

>>42158322
>I think you and I have spoke quite a lot before lol
Maybe. I don't always sign the posts (unless it's explicitly relevant, which it is in this case). But I'm sure it's easily clockable as old timer talk.
If you mean somewhere else, I strongly doubt. I live out my age too - which means no social media, lot of real-life activity... you know, living. As opposed to existing in front of screens.

>I transitioned because it is what was required for me to be myself

Yep, pretty much.
I was surely wired wrong. But it is what it is. Even as a kid both boys and girls clocked me as a girl. Only my dad coped for a while that maybe it's a phase. But then accepted his daughter and focused on my brothers who clearly were boys (and are married men with children now).
If such a pill could've been offered to 4yo me to make me be a boy, then I would not have grown into the person I am now.

It's why I push back to >>42158316 as well. It really is clear that people like us are very rare and that's okay.
I strongly doubt "most men" would try transition if it were instant and perfect. Most cis men (and most cis women) are happy with themselves. And that's okay too.

>>42156957
A group changing is different than erasure being intentionally and forcefully imposed. Genocide carries a pretty specific definition in international law too, get better bait next time

>>42158398
There is one other poster here who I know of who has transitioned for as long as you have and I assumed you were her. If you are her we did meet on this board but chatted a lot on discord a few years ago and you helped me figure a lot of stuff out.
And yes I relate to the rest of it.
>>42158390
See above. When I say I have changed my sex I say so because I really do not know what about me is male outside of transmisogynistic tropes about trans womens innate male-ness. You seem to frame your transition as though you are a man desperately and futilely attempting to approximate being female. This is often how girls think before they know themselves as women, especially on this board.

>>42158456
I'm in a similar boat as >>42158390, but I've gone back and forth on being a man vs being a woman.

Ultimately, I feel like I am too late to be a woman. This thought is why I repped at 17 when I learned what being trans really was. Just, too male in my brain at times. It's a pendulum, and when it swings back to male I feel that it is disqualifying.

>>42158424
>Genocide carries a pretty specific definition in international law too, get better bait next time
lol, good try
they can't even decide if Gaza is genocide over mountains of dead toddlers
it's always been purely political: "my group is so important that questioning MUH RIGHT TO EXIST is genocide"
notice the OG definition of genocide was actually "cultural genocide", which was the Nazis telling Jews to stop putting Jew stuff in windows.

>>42158456
Thanks nona, take care

>>42158384

>i think you enjoy the feeling of being superior to other people more than you care about their health

I think people should do whatever the fuck they want and accept the consequences of their own actions

>>42158873
we tried that in the 19th century, half the country ended up addicted to opium

>>42158930

And whose fault is that? It's not opium's.

Natural selection

>>42158967
>just wait 1000 years and it will work itself ou-
*gets conquered by a less retarded country*

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>>42156860
Why would they need to research something that already exists? The cure for gender dysphoria is taking HRT.

>>42157360
The conspiracy is that jews fund anything that the schizo in question doesn't like.
The reason they get so much ammo is that israel spends a shit ton of money on outreach and influence.

>>42158141
I don't think being gay is a problem at all. For some of us, being trans woman it's just a poor adjustment to being gay

I'm not a psychiatrist/psychologist/neuro, so I'm going to say a lot I know nothing about, but my strong impression is that dysphoria is kept in the same scope created for autism and most developmental/mental disorders.
Understood to be more or less lifelong. Treated, researched and accommodated for to suppress distress, harm or disability, but not really as a stand-in for some future complete "cure" either, and kept out of the bucket of hard disease like cancer or the flu.
Not all for kumbaya and good vibes, but because the alternative framework had been either wildly unsuccessful (autism) or turned wildly unethical (lobotomies)
So I'm basically claiming that I don't think any serious internationally aligned research institution would ever look into a gender dysphoria, autism, schizophrenia or OCD "cure" anymore even if people asked them to and didn't intuitively understand that concept to be gross and antiquated
>>42157001
>all those idiots don't help people, only *I* know how to help people
lol incel arrogance

>>42156867
>>42156874
>>42156957
is it possible that trans is a resurgence of neanderthal dna self expressing itself through compulsive hypersexuality

>>42159927
no that's definitely not possible

>>42160415
how do you know? have you ever had sex with neanderthal?

>>42160432
yes, your mother

>>42159927
>compulsive hypersexuality
this makes no sense, if that actually were the case it wouldn't have anything to do with trans people
trans =/= hypersexual
plus to say that there is a resurgence is also dumb, does this mean this neanderthal dna was making people trans this whole time over all of history? wouldn't really be a resurgence, would it?

>>42160538
maybe they died off cause they all queered out and now that everything on tv and computer is sex theyre coming back. no way to really know whats in microchips. rare earth metals and all

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>>42160567
this is incredibly stupid to say
what prompts one to entertain this stupidity?

>>42160577
no i think he's right actually. rare earth metals and all that

>>42156867
AT LEAST 90% of post-tipping point cases.

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>>42160587
ohhhhhh
so you're telling me we crave the minerals?

>>42156860
I think the cure is less homophobia and being more accepting of GNC men/women, as well as stigmatizing AGPs/AAPs enacting their fetishes in public.

>>42160577
im saying there is no cure until we destroy tv radio printingpress and computer and all that

>>42160630
Wouldn't it be more productive to encourage people to be conscious of the media they consume?

>>42160668
they will never listen. they will never understand

>>42160695
okay stupid