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>be me
>19yo tranny
>on HRT for a bit more than a year
>go to a college out of state so I fly to get home
>tsa always treats me weird
>when I get random pat downs which is often enough ive noticed the men get uncomfortable and ask if id rather have the female tsa agent pat me down
>last time I go through clear cause my mom pays for a family plan
>clear is like palantir evil and it has all your biometrics
>scan my face in the machine
>guy administrating the machine says
“That’s not you in the picture”
>I say
“It’s an old photo, I can show you my id”
>He says that’s fine, I show him, he’s still shocked but he lets me through, he also like makes it kind of clear he still doesn’t believe me.
Here’s the thing though
I always get called he, I have been struggling through college and I’ve not made time to voice train, and I look like a 15 year old boy because of HRT. It’s jarring, it’s like those dykes that look like boys. I have been growing my hair out for a bit (although it’s still barely medium length), and I wonder if it’s just because I have babyface. However, people are noticing that I don’t look like a man, it just has the effect of me looking like a 15 year old boy. Even friends of mine told me—although most of it was mid transition—that I looked FTM. Any advice on this? I’m really sick of people just not knowing what the fuck I am when I’m traveling and in the given example potentially even getting me in legal trouble.
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>>42161774
15 year old means lack of any facial development, lack of facial structure, softer features etc. assuming you mean 15 year old pre puberty. Cuz if u look like a 15 year old dude post puberty then ur fucked lol
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>>42161780
Sent too early. What I meant to say is that dykes that look like they’re young don’t actually look young. It’s just the hair + a few facial features. I don’t think you actually look that young you prolly just have a few subtle features that make u look younger
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>>42161780
>>42161791
No I genuinely do look that young, at least in the face. I have fem fat distribution on my body, but I look like a cis lesbian that looks like a 15 year old boy in the face
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>>42161808
Are you ftm?
I don’t get ur question. What do you want advice on? You don’t wanna be confused as looking young? What’s ur goal
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>>42161839
Just realized I never specified. Im MTF, my issue is simply that instead of feminine I just look like a little boy, and idk besides just continuing to grow out my hair how I can fix this
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>>42161839
I would like show u a photo but I’ve gotten a doxx posted to 15 years ago and I’d rather not
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>>42161861
A few years ago, lmao, not 15
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>>42161854
What’s ur height and weight? Really young looks are associated with more facial fat; plump rosy cheeks with kids for example. So just drop in bodyweight % a bit to get more defined cheekbones. Also you could just be misunderstanding. It’s hard to objectively judge oneself

>>42161861
Yeah fair u don’t have to show anything, I just think your issue might be mkre an internal thing. It’s the case for most MOST people. Like, odds are you aren’t actually looking like a kid. What’s ur ethnicity also if u don’t mind me asking
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>>42161774
i think i am kinda in a similar situation to you where people think im either a 15 year old boy or an early transition ftm. Also get treated very weird by tsa / airport security (they are always unsure who i should get pat down by, dont believe my id is mine etc). i think the biggest difference in how you get gendered is your voice. i kinda sorta have voice trained and when i use it i pass and when i dont i dont pass. be glad you have this kind of androgyny, because it means there isn't a whole lot you have to do to pass
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>>42161875
5’5, 140 ish pounds last time I checked but it keeps fluctuating. I am Ashkenazi.
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>>42161883
Good to know, but I have no money so I’m gonna have to teach myself how to voice train at the same time as doing an engineering degree at one of the most rigorous programs in the states, which will be a nightmare. I tried doing it a year ago with some lady on this voice training discord community who offered her help for free, and I just totally fell on my face. Not good at it.
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>>42161889
At that height and weight, unless you have a good bit of muscle which I’m assuming u don’t, you’re definitely going to have a slight bit of chub. Not like chubby or fat, just having enough body fat that it’ll plump you up in some way. The easiest easiest way is to just lose some weight and get a lower bf%. That way your facial structure will stand out a bit more and complement your hair and outfits etc.

>>42161883
No offnese to you or OP, but every person I’ve seen who claims to be androgynous just looks like a dude with no facial hair. There’s been some rare exceptions, one notable one being someone who was pinoy. Asians seem to have a better chance at pulling off that look due to their high levels of neotany
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>>42161889
>5'5
i swear nobody on this website has real issues any more its crazy
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>>42161943
You should delete the photo, I’ve seen it now. Definitely don’t post yourself online lmao.

But you are definitely right you look really young. I had the opposite issue. My facial hair came in early and dense And I worked out. So people always assumed I was older. I definitely think you don’t look like you’re 15, you look more like a young adult with a baby face. But if it still irks you, like I said. Losing a bit of weight, changing your hair style.
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>>42161959
Just gotta keep at it then ig, hairstyle just needs to be grown out, parents are weird about it and made me get it cut a few times. Been losing weight to, desu the issue is that if I lose enough weight I’ll have less defined fat distribution, and also the ppl I’ve been with have seemed to prefer me having that bit of chub ig?
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>>42161984
Well that’s the thing isn’t it. You can’t have it both ways. If your partner prefers you having a softer look, then you have to decide if you want to go down that route or not be mistaken for being young. You are good lookin, when I saw you I thought you looked cute. But is that ur goal? To look cute? Or something else, more seductive or sexy etc.

I’m surprised ur parents are on ur ass about hair. Do they not know ur trans? Or that ur taking hormones? Why is hair where they draw the line
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>>42162006
No idea I’m trans or on HRT lmao they are entirely oblivious, and it’s on their insurance too
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>>42161929
This is my face, and I consider myself to be fairly androgynous/masculine looking. Do I have a delusional take and just look like a dude with no facial hair ;-;
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>>42162031

girl you're wearing mascara and a lace choker, you know you pass stop fishing
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>>42162031
U look like a woman, and you probably shouldn’t say ur androgynous lmao
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>>42162022
What?? How is that possible? You very clearly look feminine. From the way you look and your height I assume you have feminine mannerisms and demeanour as well. They’re in denial lol. Why not come out to them? Maybe have a partner help you with that

>>42162031
If I saw you I’d assume you’re either trans or a very butch / masculine chick. With op I don’t see any masculinity, they really do look like a young chick.
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>>42162006
Goal is to look cute ig, hot or cunt or whtvr doesn’t suit me, my fashion, or my personality imo. I don’t know I think I look very young, and I’ve been told by not many but a few people that I look like a child to the point where the people who were interested in me were probably peds, which didn’t help my confidence if u can imagine (﹏)
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>>42162072
Dad believes trantifa is a thing and my mom insists in her day they had transvestites so I’m not too interested until they finish paying for my degree lmfao
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>>42162101
Well fair point. But I still think it’s hard to imagine that you’d be a normal boy at all. I have a pretty good gaydar and I’d not doubt a thing if I passed by you in the street. Maybe you have the most boxy frame known to mankind and that gives it away,but aside for that I wouldn’t be able to guess.

>>42162090
Yeah I don’t think it would’ve helped. But I still think you should visualize or think of something more concrete beyond “cute.” Because earlier you said your partner wanted you to be softer and chubbier, but here ur saying that same youth led to a lack of confidence? Just trying to understand where ur coming from
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>>42162142
Not boxy I just don’t wear many tight fitting or even like just not loose fitting clothes around them cause my tits r noticeable. Had to the other day for a family lunch with the extended family and it was awful cause I was around them very obviously with non male features. My mom gave me a few weird looks, didn’t bring it up, and I did my best to disguise the fact I guess
In regards to me looking young, it was just the fact that people corroborated that I look like 15. I don’t even think they said I looked like a little boy, that’s mostly in my head, but they said I looked like a child and that made me uncomfortable. If that makes sense.
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>>42162171
It does make sense. I suppose my only question is what do you really want out of life? Why does it matter how people perceive you? In the immediate moment I’m sure you got familial problems and whatnot. But eventually that wont be the case. You’ll move out and be living your own life. So what do u really want?

I think working out / diet will be a step in the right direction in the short term. But the stuff about worrying ur attracting pedos, that’s a diff issue
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>>42161774
wtf are you me
god i hate the tsa!!!!!
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>>42162314
Also I’m interested in talkin to you a bit more op. It’s getting late and thread will prolly die by the time I’m up. You seem like a swell person, I’d like to get to know you better. Any place I can add you? I can drop my disc if you’d like



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