HSTS sexuality is just 1:1 category-specific gay male sexuality and completely different from straight female sexuality.AGP sexuality is closer to (straight or lesbian) female sexuality than HSTS sexuality.Now, which one was faketrans?
>>42163673the top right box shows this is a lie, since genital arousal cannot be faked or lied to yourself about
>>42163673>prefer straight porn but can masturbate to anythingliterally me
>>42163673This image proves that men who are not the most aroused by lesbian porn are not heterosexuals. Don't call yourself hetero if don't wank it to lesbians.
>>42163673Doesnt matter, the reality is that normies will always likes transwomen that are androphilic more than gynephiles
>>42163713okay, i lied a little bit, AGP sexuality isn't that similar to lesbian sexuality, in fact straight male sexuality amd lesbian sexuality are closer to each other than to AGP sexuality. But, AGP sexuality is closer to straight female sexuality than HSTS sexuality, by both measured and reported arousal.
>>42163749Its matters. Agp are trutrans.
>>42163673This proves that gay men can wank it to straight porn. How many closet cases do that?
>>42164162i (gay) jack off to straight porn by imagining myself as the woman getting fucked balls deepi'm sure i'm not the only one
>>42164162>gay men can wank it to straight pornobviously they can, because there are objects of their desire (aka men) there
>>42163673Androphilic cis women have the most beautiful bisexual sexuality. We should celebrate them more. They love everything
>>42164169>gay>imagining myself as a woman>not even identifying as a trannyblanchard would die from a heart attak if he were to meet you
>>42164169Did you ever cope that cause you are able to wank to that, you are straight?
>>42164182i don't think blanchard would find that problematicthe exciting bit for me isn't the thought of having tits and a cunt, it's having a masculine straight man fucking my hole, that's why i self insert as the woman, and straight porn has more masculine looking men to my eye>>42164184it did kinda worry me but then i figured out that gays have their own kind of insecurity over identity and the ability to get off to straight porn runs up against thatwhat do you think?
>>42164229whatever you're describing sounds super AGP but you're also exclusively into men. That would confuse the hell out of daddy if you were a tranny
>>42164243i don't see how it's autogynephilic because the basic attraction is still basically androphilia, but you can tell me how you think it fits in with AGP.i'm not fem enough to pull off trooning out, but if i trooned i'd be a lateshit unpassable HSTS thing.
>>42163673I'm an exclusively androphilic tranny, and though I don't masturbate that much anymore, pre-transition when I was way more into porn I was mostly into gay male but primarily yaoi type stuff. Idk what that makes me
>>42164262>>42164262you have a female embodiment fantasy. you seem aroused by imagining yourself as a female in sexual scenarios. also, i'm not telling you to troon, i just think you're an interesting case
>>42164262>unpassable HSTSNo such thing
>>42164294whatever you've described fits perfectly as gay male/HSTS sexuality.
>>42164297isn't female embodiment fantasy an AGP cope thoughit's true that i'm aroused by imagining myself as a woman, but only in the specific context of having sex with a masculine straight man, so this sounds like HSTS to me>>42164312to the extent that HSTS are femgays who transition opportunistically this is probably true, but society is a lot more forgiving of clocky trannies and straight men might be more willing to try them out, so i wonder if gays are trooning out who would not have been transitioning before
>>42164334Nah you're AGPHSTS fantasize about being a man being fucked
>>42164361>HSTS fantasize about being a man being fuckedchat, is this true?
>>42164317Guess I'd have been a great hussie if I was able to troon earlier in life, alas I am not built to pass.>>42164334>gays are trooning out who would not have been transitioning beforeTbh if I lived further in the past without access to diy I'm not entirely sure I would have trooned. I probably could have coped if I didn't have to live with the knowledge that trooning was possible.>>42164368I fantasize being a woman, but cute yaoi boy is also okay
>>42164380HSTS can troon well into adulthood and still pass.
>>42164368Hussies would just want the yaoi hole in an ideal world, but the closest thing available is vaginoplasty
>>42164385I require ffs + I'm 6'2. I have the brain but was not genetically gifted to pass.
>>42164400Then you're not HSTS.
>>42164408HSTS being based on physical passing ability is stupid. I like men and couldn't bear to be a full on man myself. I kinda have to settle for tall twinkhon
>>42164441If you "couldn't bear" to be a man, then that's AGP.
>>42163673both fakemoney and blanchard were child abusing hacks that tried to apply psychology to a biology problem
>>42163673Do ftms have female sexuality on steroids (literally) then?
>>42164451blanchtards are so insufferabletell them you're tall and they suddenly will try to convince you you're AGP by evem the stupidest means possiblei genuinely believe that you're actually chasers projecting their desires
>>42164243>whatever you're describing sounds super AGP but you're also exclusively into men. That would confuse the hell out of daddy if you were a trannyAGP gays could exist, if they are like me, and you define AGP as "arousal to the thought of being a woman *for any reason*"if you think about it, blanchard only looked at trannies, so he didn't rule out the existence of AGP everywhere else.the two type typology could be a case of collider bias - you needed to be either a very GNC gay or a very AGP straight guy to troon out, but this doesn't imply that the whole population of gays doesn't have AGP in it, the negative association is due to selection.
>>42164451Not with the knowledge of trooning being possible. Sure, call me agp, but the fact is that I'm not gynephilic at all and have forever liked gay porn better than the other categories.
>>42164486>so he didn't rule out the existence of AGP everywhere elseand yet BAT enthusiasts will passionately argue how cis women cannot be AGP
>>42164486he tried tofamously frustrated by an inability to define agp in a way that includes trannies that didn't also include cis women
>>42164495AGP was defined in men only in the first place.but still, you don't see a lot of AGP like arousal in women. have you read lawrence's book? the shit that AGPs orgasm to is simply not what women get off to, at all.
>>42164513watpretty sure that most women imagine themselves as a woman in their sexual fantasies
>>42164513cis women are insufferably AGP and you should know this if you are friends with any. sure, maybe they fantasize about different stuff than john50s from lawrences book, but that does not mean that they are AGP-free.
>>42164550Are cis women stealing their daughters' underwear? Are they wearing female underwear under male clothing to feel aroused all day?
>>42164513>the shit that AGPs orgasm toWhat kind of stuff? Cisf fujos are kind of notorious desu
>>42164550no they aren't, the Moser study claiming foids are AGP had to change all the question, it was fraudulentpicrel is the quintessence of what foids get off to. basically getting raped by monsters. meanwhile AGPs get off to the most mundane aspects of being women. read lawrence's book.
>>42164550Cis women cannot be agp by definiton. Being autosexual is not the same as being a man that gets turned on from wearing womens clothing (euphoria boners)
>>42164573Fujos are not agp, they are aap
>>42163673Where does gayden sexuality fit in here?How about hsts fujos?
>>42164624Gayden = AHE"HSTS fujo" = AGP
>>42164580>Moser study claiming foids are AGP had to change all the question, it was fraudulentyes they are, the Bailey study claiming foids aren't AGP had to misinterpret the data in order to write a fallatious conclusion in the abstract. >picrel is the quintessence of what foids get off topicrel is the quintessence of what a loud minority of foids get off to. fantasizing about rape or monsters does not even exclude AGP arousal patterns, i have no idea what were you trying to prove by mentioning this. it's like trying to prove that cars cannot be red because some of them are electric.>Cis women cannot be agp by definiton. Being autosexual is not the same as being a man that gets turned on from wearing womens clothing (euphoria boners)The definition is faulty because it's a double standard. AGPs are not a monolith, there is no single arousal pattern that is present in them all, other than arousal from being female/feminine. If there's a good reason why autosexual cis women shouldnt be classified as AGP, we should put that reason as the category distinction in the definition.
>>42164636Fair desu
>>42164724>other than arousal from being femaleWoman can be a masculine woman and still be autosexual. Claiming that women's autosexuality is linked to femininity is weird
>>42164828>Claiming that women's autosexuality is linked to femininity is weirdHow so? If someone is attracted to themselves you would expect that one's sexual characterists play an important role in this self-attraction, just like they matter in allosexual attraction.
>>42164879>one's sexual characterists play an important roleThose have nothing to do with femininity. You can be a masculine butch autosexual woman
>>42165029so now you're trying to convince me that boobs and vagina have nothing to do with femininity? what kind of mental gymnastics is that?
>>42165076Women can be masculine, chest can be masculine and a vag can be masculine
>>42165102wait, you're the one who pivoted to the femininity thing here: >Claiming that women's autosexuality is linked to femininity is weird. I never claimed that. I think that women's autosexuality is typically linked to their femininity and/or their femaleness.
