>>42165478
Most of them are bi. It's fine, who cares

having sex with a "post op" trans woman who has a fake vagina and thinks that means nobody can tell his body is male is most gay of all
it is always gay for a man to fuck a troon, none of them pass

>>42165587
This is simply not true. There are tranners who pass, but they're the equivalent of the economic elite for the poor. They're extremely rare, and get more attention that women basically. Some of the tranny pornstars look like real women, not only that, but hot women.

>>42165649
there are zero trannies who pass
there are trannies who look feminine for 30 seconds or if you don't see them fully/clearly, but none who can sustain the illusion upon actually interacting with them in real life for more than a few minutes

>>42165587
i dont understand why a gay man would find this attractive

>>42166063
yeah ur right. humans are totally not a moderate sexually dysphoric species. we are like gorillas, you can always tell.

>>42166072
because they get to date another gay man, but without the stigma/taboo, society will see it as less transgressive because its a roughly male presenting person dating a roughly female presenting person

>>42166081
trannies and niggers are wild dangerous gorillas who should all be shipped by boat back to Africa and then an electric fence should be erected around the whole perimeter of Africa and the continent sealed off from everywhere else for GOOD.

>>42166081
>>42166081
dysmorphic*

>>42166098
>trannies and niggers are wild dangerous gorillas
looks like the sharty doesnt have anything else of worth to say

>>42166118
they fuckin are
niggers do crimes wherever they go
trannies rape and groom children left and right

trannies are so hypersexual they have to be castrated or they would be rape machines with no off switch

>>42166098
I honestly wish the technology to transition properly would just be invented already. Cause I'd take a trans girlfriend any day, over the average Cis W*man that plagues the western world, if I could. But I don't want to date a man, and I can't see a tranny as a woman, cause they're not. But if they could transition down to the level of having female organs, I would do commit my life to one, cause they're so cute and really genuinely love you, unlike women.

>>42166139
castrating men doesn't make them women

>>42166126
idk y u r bringing up black ppl?? you heard gorlias and it set you off like a bot

>>42166154
cuz both niggers and trannies are predisposed to violence and sexual crimes by genetic nature

>>42166167
okay but we were talking about passing and you just changed the subject. why are you getting so worked up?

>>42166181
I responded to anon commenting:
>yeah ur right. humans are totally not a moderate sexually dysphoric species. we are like gorillas, you can always tell.

my point being, yes, trannies ARE closer to gorillas than other humans, they are genuinely retarded and more monkey-esque

>>42166190
but you are talking about intelligence?

>>42166224
humans are sexually dimorphic enough that you can always tell an xy is male no matter what surgeries he gets or chemicals he takes or when he does those things
non trannies are smart enough to detect trannies in the wild, given clear exposure and others present for context (i.e. not a dark nightclub)
no trannies pass

>>42166235
proof?

>>4216606
I literally pass to my chaser bfs family

>>42165478
Honestly, it probably comes down to how important the dick is. Regardless, it is at least some level of bi unless you find yourself attracted to a transwoman without knowing whatsoever.

>>42166235
>>42166245
funny how you went silent after that.
all these shartyfags suck at defending their ideas

>>42166305
Plenty of guys dating trans women don't like dick and that's good. It's like you idiots are so porn addicted that you forget srs exists

>>42166362
It isnt that people forget about srs. Its that people forget about the girls once they have SRS. For some its because they no longer have a dick, but for many its because ciswomen exist, so what's the point?

This is probably not a convenient reality for you, but its true.

>>42165478
Is that not one of the main appeals? That a tranny will tell you you're straight while you're fucking them because their enjoyment depends on them having to believe it also?

>>42165478
Do you then also believe a man having sex with a trans guy who is bald and has a beard is straight because by your logic that bald bearded guy is female?

>>42167257
yes
amab + afab = straight
sex with bald/hairy/muscular women is still straight if ur male

>>42167268
thats so funny

>>42167257
He can literally get that poon pregnant, so its very hetero

>>42167395
so a bald hairy trans man gets ur dick hard?

>>42167423
Nope, but some females are ugly. If it was a twink looking female and full head of hair, I think I would

>>42167257
op here. yes. he would be a sicko for doing that doe. poor pooner

>>42167395
Not all people with vaginas can get pregnant or want piv

Yeah I just consider anything tranny related to be bi because its so line blurring

>>42167214
Who cares if there's other cis women, she'll be part of that dating pool and thus will have a far easier time. Nobody normal cares about having some "sexual novelty" because we don't want attention from porn addicted gay men. Literally, the women iwho have the easiest time finding normal men in real life are the ones who don't have a "novelty" attached, lol.

>>42165478
why cant it be bi? tho i think the solution is to just mind your damn business on other peoples sexuality

>>42167727
How?

>>42165478
>>42165587
>>42165580
>>42166148
>>42166305
>>42167231
Kind of support posts like this despite how retarded they are because it pills so many trans women to get SRS as soon as possible and convinces them to stop entertaining attention from faggots.

>>42167780
srs is just ceremonial castration

>>42167780
With regards to >>42166305 - saying the level of gayness largely comes down to the level of i.portwnce placed on the penis is not only logically sound, but is a statement based purley on analysis without letting emotions or preference play a role.

As such, saying its retarded very clearly exposes your bias. Not sure if you have a legitimate and non-emotional point youre trying to make, but your bias is getting in the way if you do.

>>42168236
amab + amab = gay

>>42167969
>>42168236
>>42168245
Cope, keep exposing your game retarded faggots

>>42167742
There are more ogical fallacies in this comment than id care to spend time addressing, especially since the sheer number of them is a strong indicator of a bad faith argument, so I'll keep my response short and sweet and address the low hanging fruit.

You are using "normal people" as a benchmark here, but only applying this benchmark to the part of your argument that supports your bias. To demonstrate, while I agree that nobody normal cares about "sexual novelty", normal people also have no interest in post op transwomen. Once an honest perspective is applied to using "normal people" as a benchmark, it becomes clear that it works against the message youre trying to deliver, not for it.

You asked who cares if there are ciswomen. The answer is... "normal people" lol. As stated above, normal people dont agree with you when you say postop transwomen join the same dating pool as ciswomen. There is definitely some overlap, but that is not the same as the claim you are trying to make.

Another benchmark you used is "novely", which unfortunately applies to all transwomen to some degree, regardless of srs.

Consistent with the logic applied above, I agree that normal men without a "novelty" attached to them are unlikely to end up woth a preop transwoman, but they are equally unlikely to end up with a postop transwoman.

I hope you can appreciate that im not trying to be confrontational here, and im sorry if you dont like what im saying, but we really should be intellectually honest when discussing this

>>42168278
I dont have skin in tbis game, which is why im able to keep emotions out of it and focus on logic alone. I understand youre personally invested in maintaining your current perspectives, but youll be happier if you can face the truth that logic lays out for you.

I truly wish you the best.

tfw no tranny gf to be either be hetero or homosexual with whichever she is comfortable with

>>42168388
Every single post of trans women has said they did join that dating pool. No novelty =/= no interest lol, idk how to explain it but normal men don't pick long term partners based off fetishes and sexual novelties. They might hook up with somebody based off it but nobody is choosing partners for that, in that vein being "normal & inoffensive" absolutely helps find normal men. This is exactly why trans women who are post op ± stealth have a ridiculously easier time finding normal, relationship minded men.
You might understand this if you yourself were a normal man but you aren't and the only "experience" regarding relationships or half baked thought experiments and Grindr.
>>42168422
But you absolutely do have skin in this game, because you're a weird faggot or repper who desperately wants trans women to continue to have dicks and be accessible to faggots. If you had "no skin in the game" you wouldn't be here.

>>42168481
They said it? On 4chan? I can believe i wasnt aware of such information. Sorry, that obviously means its true.

>>42165478
this is like arguing that a guy jacking off to porn on a laptop computer must be sexually attracted to laptop computers

>>42168481
trans women should be forced to keep their penises

>>42168534
But someone on 4chan said they shouldnt, so I think that means youre wrong.

>>42168526
>On 4chan
No you moron, there are hand eye testimonies from when the first srs surgeries were coming out. Turns out having a vagina (even a mid one) helps a lot when looking for normal men. Because they tend to like those (even the mid ones) a lot more than dicks lol. But keep coping faggot.
>>42168534
Nah, you repressors can just keep crying in your closets while you continue to Norwood because even hugboxers know it's too late for you.